WTB: FS MTB, I've got $2500 to spend... Heckler?

The Heckler fits your bill nicely. I am on my 3rd SC now (second
Heckler) and won't go to another brand. You could run into a bit of a
snag staying under $2500, but you could do it. The Fox fork is good (I
am a Marzocchi guy, but Fox is good).

If you are not in the US then Scott would be a good diversion from SC.
The Ellsworth id is killer as well (mucho, mucho dinero). Yeti is back
and making good stuff again as well. Have fun looking and finding the
perfect bike!

K.



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What are some of the better mountain bikes to consider in this price
range?

I am looking for something lightweight for part time XC and climbing,
but durable enough for free riding, i.e., climbing up over rocks,
doing small drops (~3 ft), and generally blasting through rocky/rooty
descents.

I'm currently looking at a Santa Cruz Heckler with a 5th Element Coil
and Fox TALAS RLC fork. What else should I consider before putting my
$ on the Heckler.

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(HKEK) wrote in message m...
What are some of the better mountain bikes to consider in this price
range?

I am looking for something lightweight for part time XC and climbing,
but durable enough for free riding, i.e., climbing up over rocks,
doing small drops (~3 ft), and generally blasting through rocky/rooty
descents.

I'm currently looking at a Santa Cruz Heckler with a 5th Element Coil
and Fox TALAS RLC fork. What else should I consider before putting my
$ on the Heckler.

ID check out the Rocky Mountain Slayer, it is awesome, a more
downhilish fork, but with lockouts, and hydraulic disks. Its an
awesome bike. Also the Rocky Mountian Instinct, it has less travel
though. But XTR components.

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(HKEK) wrote in message m...
What are some of the better mountain bikes to consider in this price
range?

When you drop that much on a bike, you may as well get a real botique
bike that works, instead of a bike manufactured by someone else for a
marketing and (crappy) design company like santa crud.

Locomoto http://www.titusti.com

El Chamuco http://www.ventanausa.com

JD

Jd wrote:
(HKEK) wrote in message
m...
What are some of the better mountain bikes to consider in this
price range?
When you drop that much on a bike, you may as well get a real botique
bike that works, instead of a bike manufactured by someone else for a
marketing and (crappy) design company like santa crud.
Locomoto http://www.titusti.com/http://www.titusti.com
El Chamuco http://www.ventanausa.com/http://www.ventanausa.com
JD



Got bored and decided to go trolling there jd? Gotta have a hobby I
suppose. Ride well champ.

K.



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"ireman_1" wrote in message
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Jd wrote:
(HKEK) wrote in message
m...
What are some of the better mountain bikes to consider in this
price range?
When you drop that much on a bike, you may as well get a real botique
bike that works, instead of a bike manufactured by someone else for a
marketing and (crappy) design company like santa crud.
Locomoto http://www.titusti.com/http://www.titusti.com
El Chamuco http://www.ventanausa.com/http://www.ventanausa.com
JD



Got bored and decided to go trolling there jd? Gotta have a hobby I
suppose. Ride well champ.

K.


Yeah, that was totally ****ty advice. Good call "K."

There's no way I'd take advantage of Titus' special $2195 deal on a fully
built Locomoto if I wanted a ~5" bike. Everyone knows it's better to drop a
couple hundred more on a - comparatively - inferior bike.
http://www.titusti.com/loco_flyer.pdf

How, exactly, can suggesting better products to a new-bike-shopper be
trolling?

Chris

I started out looking at the Slayer (plus a demo ride on single track)
but heard about some problems with the pivots, and that is the kind of
problem that I am having with my current 4-bar linkage suspension.

I am looking for a robust frame the will require minimal maintenance
from ride to ride and over the years. Although I like the Slayer's
traditional bicycle frame configuration/appearance, i.e., a main
triangle and a rear triangle, I would welcome a "lowered" top tube
design that is of benefit in panic stops (and remounting) along steep
or off-camber trails. Understandably, as the suspension travel
increases, the step-over height also tends to increase (for a fixed
frame configuration).


(TJ Poseno) wrote in message . com...
(HKEK) wrote in message m...
What are some of the better mountain bikes to consider in this price
range?

I am looking for something lightweight for part time XC and climbing,
but durable enough for free riding, i.e., climbing up over rocks,
doing small drops (~3 ft), and generally blasting through rocky/rooty
descents.

I'm currently looking at a Santa Cruz Heckler with a 5th Element Coil
and Fox TALAS RLC fork. What else should I consider before putting my
$ on the Heckler.

ID check out the Rocky Mountain Slayer, it is awesome, a more
downhilish fork, but with lockouts, and hydraulic disks. Its an
awesome bike. Also the Rocky Mountian Instinct, it has less travel
though. But XTR components.

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Chris wrote:
"ireman_1" wrote in message news:3f6ce19a$1_3@news-
. au...
Jd wrote:
(HKEK) wrote in message
m...
What are some of the better mountain bikes to consider in this
price range?
When you drop that much on a bike, you may as well get a real
botique bike that works, instead of a bike manufactured by someone
else for a marketing and (crappy) design company like santa crud.
Locomoto http://www.titusti.com/http://www.ti...omhttp://www.-
titusti.com/http://www.titusti.com El Chamuco http://www.ventanau-
sa.com/http://www.ventanausa.comhttp://www.ventanausa.com/http://-
www.ventanausa.com JD



Got bored and decided to go trolling there jd? Gotta have a hobby I
suppose. Ride well champ.

K.

Yeah, that was totally ****ty advice. Good call "K."
There's no way I'd take advantage of Titus' special $2195 deal on a
fully built Locomoto if I wanted a ~5" bike. Everyone knows it's better
to drop a couple hundred more on a - comparatively - inferior bike. htt-
p://www.titusti.com/loco_flyer.pdfhttp://www.titusti.com/loco_flyer.pdf
How, exactly, can suggesting better products to a new-bike-shopper
be trolling?
Chris

Ahhh, sarcasm. What a gift. You must be so proud. I'm still trying to
figure out how talking trash about a bike that has a great reputation is
helpful. Before the flashy marketing there were two bikes; the Tazmon
then the Heckler. Several years and many frames later they are world
renowned for making great bikes that don't break the bank, aren't
over-engineered to death and take a beating, period. I also don't gethow
recommending a bike that has a rate of return due to frame failure
higher than most every other maker is good advice. I'm cool with someone
not wanting to ride an SC, but jealousy is not an attractive trait.
Since cheaper is better let's send this person to Wal-mart. I heard they
have some new folding mtbs for less than $200!

Remember that success is evil and we all need to crawl into our garages
and weld up our own rigs or it's all just a waste, I mean if you don't
build it with your own hands your not down and can't get into that dew
commercial and live in the lands of milk and honey and get all the
chicks and be "mad real" and have all the answers and blah, blah, blah,
troll, troll, troll your boat... Was that enough irony for you? Get out
more and ride your bike. Damn. Now I feel like you won't like me and go
riding next weekend. Have fun.

K.




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"Chris" wrote in message thlink.net...
"ireman_1" wrote in message
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Jd wrote:
(HKEK) wrote in message
m...
What are some of the better mountain bikes to consider in this
price range?
When you drop that much on a bike, you may as well get a real botique
bike that works, instead of a bike manufactured by someone else for a
marketing and (crappy) design company like santa crud.
Locomoto http://www.titusti.com/http://www.titusti.com
El Chamuco http://www.ventanausa.com/http://www.ventanausa.com
JD



Got bored and decided to go trolling there jd? Gotta have a hobby I
suppose. Ride well champ.

K.


Yeah, that was totally ****ty advice. Good call "K."

There's no way I'd take advantage of Titus' special $2195 deal on a fully
built Locomoto if I wanted a ~5" bike. Everyone knows it's better to drop a
couple hundred more on a - comparatively - inferior bike.
http://www.titusti.com/loco_flyer.pdf

How, exactly, can suggesting better products to a new-bike-shopper be
trolling?

Chris



I expect that kind of answer from a leg-humping santa crud blind brand
loyalist, Chris. The Loco is easily a much better bike by design,
maufacture and finish. Like I said, santa crud is all marketing and
crappy design. Titus builds bikes, period.

Thanks for the heads-up on the Loco special, Chris. That makes anyone
who buys a santa crud XC single pivot FS for more money even more of a
fool.

JD

RE/
The Ellsworth id is killer as well

As long as you don't have to deal with Ellsworth if/when it cracks a defective
weld....
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