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Old August 10th 18, 07:14 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andy
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Default Flat repair

I had to repair a flat. Have some questions.

Is it best to apply patch to a completly flat tube?

I found a small copper wire in tire.

Is there something to minimize what can puncture tire?

Thanks
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Old August 10th 18, 01:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andy
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Default Flat repair

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 1:14:13 AM UTC-5, Andy wrote:
I had to repair a flat. Have some questions.

Is it best to apply patch to a completly flat tube?

I found a small copper wire in tire.

Is there something to minimize what can puncture tire?

Thanks


What is a good quality tire liner?

Andy
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Old August 10th 18, 03:39 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Joerg[_2_]
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Default Flat repair

On 2018-08-10 05:12, Andy wrote:
On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 1:14:13 AM UTC-5, Andy wrote:
I had to repair a flat. Have some questions.

Is it best to apply patch to a completly flat tube?

I found a small copper wire in tire.

Is there something to minimize what can puncture tire?

Thanks


What is a good quality tire liner?


I found Mr.Tuffy liners to be quite good. Stay away from cheap thin and
lightweight stuff.

I never ride without them. I also have thorn-resistant tubes in both
bikes (yes, also the road bike). In the MTB tires the liner is
additionally covered by a non-inflated slit regular tube to prevent
chafing. All this increased the weight of each bike by a few pounds but
not having flats is so worth it. Didn't have a flat in years and I ride
through some nasty turf which includes lots of these thorns:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...idum_seeds.jpg

In observance of Murphy's law they usually lay on the ground with the
long protrusion pointing upwards.

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Old August 10th 18, 07:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Flat repair

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 7:39:02 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-08-10 05:12, Andy wrote:
On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 1:14:13 AM UTC-5, Andy wrote:
I had to repair a flat. Have some questions.

Is it best to apply patch to a completly flat tube?

I found a small copper wire in tire.

Is there something to minimize what can puncture tire?

Thanks


What is a good quality tire liner?


I found Mr.Tuffy liners to be quite good. Stay away from cheap thin and
lightweight stuff.

I never ride without them. I also have thorn-resistant tubes in both
bikes (yes, also the road bike). In the MTB tires the liner is
additionally covered by a non-inflated slit regular tube to prevent
chafing. All this increased the weight of each bike by a few pounds but
not having flats is so worth it. Didn't have a flat in years and I ride
through some nasty turf which includes lots of these thorns:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...idum_seeds.jpg

In observance of Murphy's law they usually lay on the ground with the
long protrusion pointing upwards.


I have been experimenting with tubeless tires. Unless you slice these things wide open they don't get flats. You might want to change from Gatorskins to Michelin Power Endurance which have a bead to bead belt.
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Old August 10th 18, 07:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Joerg[_2_]
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Default Flat repair

On 2018-08-10 11:18, wrote:
On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 7:39:02 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-08-10 05:12, Andy wrote:
On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 1:14:13 AM UTC-5, Andy wrote:
I had to repair a flat. Have some questions.

Is it best to apply patch to a completly flat tube?

I found a small copper wire in tire.

Is there something to minimize what can puncture tire?

Thanks

What is a good quality tire liner?


I found Mr.Tuffy liners to be quite good. Stay away from cheap thin
and lightweight stuff.

I never ride without them. I also have thorn-resistant tubes in
both bikes (yes, also the road bike). In the MTB tires the liner
is additionally covered by a non-inflated slit regular tube to
prevent chafing. All this increased the weight of each bike by a
few pounds but not having flats is so worth it. Didn't have a flat
in years and I ride through some nasty turf which includes lots of
these thorns:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...idum_seeds.jpg



In observance of Murphy's law they usually lay on the ground with the
long protrusion pointing upwards.


I have been experimenting with tubeless tires. Unless you slice these
things wide open they don't get flats.



If a Goat's head thorn goes in and then falls off again they will leak.


... You might want to change from
Gatorskins to Michelin Power Endurance which have a bead to bead
belt.


Amazon wants 50 bucks for those which I consider a bit much for a
bicycle tire. I gave up on Gatorskins a long time ago because of
excessive side wall failure. The sub-$20 class only lasts 1000-1500mi
but on a per mile basis still costs less, plus better side walls, no
more blow-outs.

Now that I have a lot of patch kits from you I never need them anymore :-)

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Old August 10th 18, 01:48 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Flat repair

On 8/10/2018 1:14 AM, Andy wrote:
I had to repair a flat. Have some questions.

Is it best to apply patch to a completly flat tube?

I found a small copper wire in tire.

Is there something to minimize what can puncture tire?

Thanks


Pathing covered in images 4 through 8 he
http://www.yellowjersey.org/tubfix.html

If you find a way to escape flat tires do write back.

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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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Old August 10th 18, 02:02 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andy
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Default Flat repair

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 7:47:58 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/10/2018 1:14 AM, Andy wrote:
I had to repair a flat. Have some questions.

Is it best to apply patch to a completly flat tube?

I found a small copper wire in tire.

Is there something to minimize what can puncture tire?

Thanks


Pathing covered in images 4 through 8 he
http://www.yellowjersey.org/tubfix.html

If you find a way to escape flat tires do write back.


One way is to not ride. :-)

Andy
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Old August 10th 18, 08:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default Flat repair

On 8/10/2018 9:02 AM, Andy wrote:
On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 7:47:58 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/10/2018 1:14 AM, Andy wrote:
I had to repair a flat. Have some questions.

Is it best to apply patch to a completly flat tube?

I found a small copper wire in tire.

Is there something to minimize what can puncture tire?

Thanks


Pathing covered in images 4 through 8 he
http://www.yellowjersey.org/tubfix.html

If you find a way to escape flat tires do write back.


One way is to not ride. :-)


One thing that helps is to ride away from the gutter. If you ride on the
section of road that's routinely contacted by car tires, you'll find
it's swept clean of most debris.

Lots of glass shards, wire bits etc. get tossed out of that area toward
the far right, where most cyclists like to ride.

--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old August 12th 18, 01:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andy
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Default Flat repair

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 2:20:57 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/10/2018 9:02 AM, Andy wrote:
On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 7:47:58 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/10/2018 1:14 AM, Andy wrote:
I had to repair a flat. Have some questions.

Is it best to apply patch to a completly flat tube?

I found a small copper wire in tire.

Is there something to minimize what can puncture tire?

Thanks


Pathing covered in images 4 through 8 he
http://www.yellowjersey.org/tubfix.html

If you find a way to escape flat tires do write back.


One way is to not ride. :-)


One thing that helps is to ride away from the gutter. If you ride on the
section of road that's routinely contacted by car tires, you'll find
it's swept clean of most debris.

Lots of glass shards, wire bits etc. get tossed out of that area toward
the far right, where most cyclists like to ride.

--
- Frank Krygowski


Interesting.

We have frequent street sweepers, so the bike lane is usually pretty clean.

Andy
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Old August 12th 18, 03:41 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default Flat repair

On 8/11/2018 8:04 PM, Andy wrote:
On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 2:20:57 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/10/2018 9:02 AM, Andy wrote:
On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 7:47:58 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/10/2018 1:14 AM, Andy wrote:
I had to repair a flat. Have some questions.

Is it best to apply patch to a completly flat tube?

I found a small copper wire in tire.

Is there something to minimize what can puncture tire?

Thanks


Pathing covered in images 4 through 8 he
http://www.yellowjersey.org/tubfix.html

If you find a way to escape flat tires do write back.

One way is to not ride. :-)


One thing that helps is to ride away from the gutter. If you ride on the
section of road that's routinely contacted by car tires, you'll find
it's swept clean of most debris.

Lots of glass shards, wire bits etc. get tossed out of that area toward
the far right, where most cyclists like to ride.

--
- Frank Krygowski


Interesting.

We have frequent street sweepers, so the bike lane is usually pretty clean.


That must be nice. In my area, the street sweepers arrive just twice per
year. And in my area and in other towns I ride in, it's absolutely
normal for the bike lane to have much more debris than the road surface.

About ten to 15 years ago, I cycled a fair amount in the area around
Portland OR, America's renowned bike city. I recall when passing though
a Portland suburb, my daughter and I were laughing at the amount of
trash, broken glass and gravel we had to avoid in the bike lanes. "Why
is this better than the regular traffic lane?"

I once asked a bike advocate out there and I was told that in the city
proper, it's no problem. When you spotted some trash in a bike lane, you
just had to fill out a form telling the location, mail the form, and the
city would sweep it as soon as possible. I thought "Great. That means
it's going to be there for a week."

That happened before the internet was well developed. Jay can tell us
what system they use now around Portland. But as I say, around here the
"system" is to let the debris lie for up to half a year.

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- Frank Krygowski
 




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