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CTC and the DfT design guidance consultation
The latest CTC e-newsletter has a link to their response to an
important consultation on government guidance for design for cycling. The CTC's response is here http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Camp...draft)_con.doc (sadly a Word file with the edits left visible in the change tracking). I've on occasion been quite critical of the CTC but this seem to be an example of a very good and useful piece of work. What can we best do to try to get the DfT to accept as many of the CTC's representations as possible ? -- Ian Jackson personal email: These opinions are my own. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/ PGP2 key 1024R/0x23f5addb, fingerprint 5906F687 BD03ACAD 0D8E602E FCF37657 |
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On Dec 17, 2:29 pm, Ian Jackson
wrote: The latest CTC e-newsletter has a link to their response to an important consultation on government guidance for design for cycling. The CTC's response is here http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Camp...draft)_con.doc (sadly a Word file with the edits left visible in the change tracking). I've on occasion been quite critical of the CTC but this seem to be an example of a very good and useful piece of work. What can we best do to try to get the DfT to accept as many of the CTC's representations as possible ? The DfT will probably include all reasonable suggestions in a nice report/guide which will then be ignored by most local authorities because it's only 'guidance'. Even though Wrexham county council has a 'cycling strategy' which gives reasonably good design guidance it seems to have been largely ignored. peter |
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naked_draughtsman wrote:
The DfT will probably include all reasonable suggestions in a nice report/guide which will then be ignored by most local authorities because it's only 'guidance'. Even though Wrexham county council has a 'cycling strategy' which gives reasonably good design guidance it seems to have been largely ignored. If someone is injured, partly as a result of a facility that has been designed poorly, could such guidance be used to claim compensation and consequently to encourage the council to improve the design of its facility? Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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Ian Jackson wrote:
The latest CTC e-newsletter has a link to their response to an important consultation on government guidance for design for cycling. The CTC's response is here http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Camp...draft)_con.doc (sadly a Word file with the edits left visible in the change tracking). I've on occasion been quite critical of the CTC but this seem to be an example of a very good and useful piece of work. What can we best do to try to get the DfT to accept as many of the CTC's representations as possible ? Once the CTC has decided on its response, I might suggest that it would be helpful for as many cyclists as possible to write to their MPs, much as they did about the Highway Code. Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message news:1i9a4tq.1kf4ev81147e3fN%notmyaddress.1.ekulna ... Ian Jackson wrote: The latest CTC e-newsletter has a link to their response to an important consultation on government guidance for design for cycling. The CTC's response is here http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Camp...draft)_con.doc (sadly a Word file with the edits left visible in the change tracking). I've on occasion been quite critical of the CTC but this seem to be an example of a very good and useful piece of work. What can we best do to try to get the DfT to accept as many of the CTC's representations as possible ? Once the CTC has decided on its response, I might suggest that it would be helpful for as many cyclists as possible to write to their MPs, much as they did about the Highway Code. Cheers, Luke Excellent idea, count me in. |
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"burtthebike" wrote in message . uk... "Ekul Namsob" wrote in message news:1i9a4tq.1kf4ev81147e3fN%notmyaddress.1.ekulna ... Ian Jackson wrote: The latest CTC e-newsletter has a link to their response to an important consultation on government guidance for design for cycling. The CTC's response is here http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Camp...draft)_con.doc (sadly a Word file with the edits left visible in the change tracking). I've on occasion been quite critical of the CTC but this seem to be an example of a very good and useful piece of work. What can we best do to try to get the DfT to accept as many of the CTC's representations as possible ? Once the CTC has decided on its response, I might suggest that it would be helpful for as many cyclists as possible to write to their MPs, much as they did about the Highway Code. Cheers, Luke Excellent idea, count me in. And please remember to remind us. |
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Ekul Namsob wrote:
If someone is injured, partly as a result of a facility that has been designed poorly, could such guidance be used to claim compensation and consequently to encourage the council to improve the design of its facility? IANAL, but I would have thought published guidelines would represent a statement of 'best practice'. Failure to follow this would be an issue in a negligence, duty-of-care or H&S action. It might be interesting to pick some facility-of-the-month that fails to meet advisory standards and get some legal advice on the council's liability. Most councils would probably react by closing the facility rather than fixing it, but sometimes that would be a good thing. -adrian |
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Graham Harrison wrote:
"burtthebike" wrote in message . uk... "Ekul Namsob" wrote in message news:1i9a4tq.1kf4ev81147e3fN%notmyaddress.1.ekulna ... Ian Jackson wrote: I've on occasion been quite critical of the CTC but this seem to be an example of a very good and useful piece of work. What can we best do to try to get the DfT to accept as many of the CTC's representations as possible ? Once the CTC has decided on its response, I might suggest that it would be helpful for as many cyclists as possible to write to their MPs, much as they did about the Highway Code. Excellent idea, count me in. And please remember to remind us. I'm not in the CTC, largely because I thought they were rather crap about the Highway Code, so I'm not very likely to find out about their final response in a hurry. I'm beginning to reconsider my stance on membership though. Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
... The latest CTC e-newsletter has a link to their response to an important consultation on government guidance for design for cycling. The CTC's response is here http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Camp...draft)_con.doc (sadly a Word file with the edits left visible in the change tracking). Interesting document which I'll be studying more closely. Wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry at the sentence towards the end of 1.4 saying "Given the difficulties of sourcing good photographs of correctly designed infrastructure...." Maybe offer local authorities a cash prize for building one of them so that I can wander along and take a snap? |
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