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Presta valve in a rim that was drilled for Schrader?
On 2019-09-08 23:21, Chalo wrote:
Joerg wrote: Just received a new rear wheel. Despite being 700c and for narrow tires the rim is drilled for a Schrader valve. Couldn't believe it. Harumph, grumble. Why on earth ... well, it is what it is. I can't imagine what your objection could be, given that Presta valves are inferior in every single possible way to Schraeder valves, except for their diameter. Count your blessings and use a better, less fault-prone tube. It confounds me to come up with a rational explanation for why the recent crop of big wide rims (including fatbike rims) are mostly drilled for Presta valves. It's most likely because of standardization. Many small portable pumps cannot or can only with difficulty be converted to Schrader. Doesn't matter to me because I never had a valve failure with either Schrader or Presta. Rummaging around and cleaning the garage in a few spare minutes yesterday I would a mushroom-shaped furniture panel connector made from hollow aluminum. Should be easy to make a nice adapter plug from that and rivet it into the hole. I just have to find a suitable glue to hold it in place. The E6000 I ordered for another purpose (shoe repair) is still more than a week off. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Presta valve in a rim that was drilled for Schrader?
Chalo, 2019-09-09 08:21+0200:
I can't imagine what your objection could be, given that Presta valves are inferior in every single possible way to Schraeder valves, except for their diameter. Count your blessings and use a better, less fault-prone tube. I cannot agree with that. The small diameter of Presta valves is a significant advantage, but being French, I can assure you that Presta valves are better by definition. ;-) -- Tanguy |
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Presta valve in a rim that was drilled for Schrader?
Chalo, 2019-09-09 08:21+0200:
I can't imagine what your objection could be, given that Presta valves are inferior in every single possible way to Schraeder valves, except for their diameter. Count your blessings and use a better, less fault-prone tube. I cannot agree with that. The small diameter of Presta valves is one significant advantage, but being French, I can also assure you that in general, Presta valves are better by definition. ;-) -- Tanguy |
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Presta valve in a rim that was drilled for Schrader?
On 2019-09-09 08:15, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:
Chalo, 2019-09-09 08:21+0200: I can't imagine what your objection could be, given that Presta valves are inferior in every single possible way to Schraeder valves, except for their diameter. Count your blessings and use a better, less fault-prone tube. I cannot agree with that. The small diameter of Presta valves is one significant advantage, ... Yes, less compromise in the integrity and sturdiness of the rim. ... but being French, I can also assure you that in general, Presta valves are better by definition. ;-) Just like French Brie cheese for which there is IMHO no substitute :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Presta valve in a rim that was drilled for Schrader?
On 9/9/2019 12:33 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-09-09 08:15, Tanguy Ortolo wrote: Chalo, 2019-09-09 08:21+0200: I can't imagine what your objection could be, given that Presta valves are inferior in every single possible way to Schraeder valves, except for their diameter. Count your blessings and use a better, less fault-prone tube. I cannot agree with that. The small diameter of Presta valves is one significant advantage, ... Yes, less compromise in the integrity and sturdiness of the rim. ... but being French, I can also assure you that in general, Presta valves are better by definition. ;-) Just like French Brie cheese for which there is IMHO no substitute :-) https://www.cheeseandburger.com/wisconsincheeses/brie -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Presta valve in a rim that was drilled for Schrader?
On 2019-09-09 10:40, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/9/2019 12:33 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2019-09-09 08:15, Tanguy Ortolo wrote: Chalo, 2019-09-09 08:21+0200: I can't imagine what your objection could be, given that Presta valves are inferior in every single possible way to Schraeder valves, except for their diameter. Count your blessings and use a better, less fault-prone tube. I cannot agree with that. The small diameter of Presta valves is one significant advantage, ... Yes, less compromise in the integrity and sturdiness of the rim. ... but being French, I can also assure you that in general, Presta valves are better by definition. ;-) Just like French Brie cheese for which there is IMHO no substitute :-) https://www.cheeseandburger.com/wisconsincheeses/brie I've tried Brie from all sorts of reputable domestic sources, including some from WI. I does not compare. Maybe the reason are our pasteurization laws which I find exaggerated. The best Brie and Camembert can only be enjoyed in Europe, preferably in France. The kind when you temporarily and literally lose your breath for a second or two after biting down. When you move from one country or continent to another there is always something you'll sorely miss. Works in both directions. For example, try to find really good bacon in Europe. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Presta valve in a rim that was drilled for Schrader?
On 9/9/2019 1:33 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-09-09 08:15, Tanguy Ortolo wrote: Chalo, 2019-09-09 08:21+0200: I can't imagine what your objection could be, given that Presta valves are inferior in every single possible way to Schraeder valves, except for their diameter.Â* Count your blessings and use a better, less fault-prone tube. I cannot agree with that. The small diameter of Presta valves is one significant advantage, ... Yes, less compromise in the integrity and sturdiness of the rim. Does anyone have an incident where a valve hole caused a failure in a rim? A bike rim is in compression. Other stresses are small, unless one hits a heck of a bump. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Presta valve in a rim that was drilled for Schrader?
On Mon, 09 Sep 2019 07:24:22 -0700, Joerg
wrote: On 2019-09-08 23:21, Chalo wrote: Joerg wrote: Just received a new rear wheel. Despite being 700c and for narrow tires the rim is drilled for a Schrader valve. Couldn't believe it. Harumph, grumble. Why on earth ... well, it is what it is. I can't imagine what your objection could be, given that Presta valves are inferior in every single possible way to Schraeder valves, except for their diameter. Count your blessings and use a better, less fault-prone tube. It confounds me to come up with a rational explanation for why the recent crop of big wide rims (including fatbike rims) are mostly drilled for Presta valves. It's most likely because of standardization. Many small portable pumps cannot or can only with difficulty be converted to Schrader. Doesn't matter to me because I never had a valve failure with either Schrader or Presta. Rummaging around and cleaning the garage in a few spare minutes yesterday I would a mushroom-shaped furniture panel connector made from hollow aluminum. Should be easy to make a nice adapter plug from that and rivet it into the hole. I just have to find a suitable glue to hold it in place. The E6000 I ordered for another purpose (shoe repair) is still more than a week off. Other than holding the adapter in place when changing a tire there is no need to glue it in place as the valve stem will hold it in place quite satisfactorily. -- cheers, John B. |
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Presta valve in a rim that was drilled for Schrader?
On 2019-09-09 15:36, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2019 07:24:22 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2019-09-08 23:21, Chalo wrote: Joerg wrote: Just received a new rear wheel. Despite being 700c and for narrow tires the rim is drilled for a Schrader valve. Couldn't believe it. Harumph, grumble. Why on earth ... well, it is what it is. I can't imagine what your objection could be, given that Presta valves are inferior in every single possible way to Schraeder valves, except for their diameter. Count your blessings and use a better, less fault-prone tube. It confounds me to come up with a rational explanation for why the recent crop of big wide rims (including fatbike rims) are mostly drilled for Presta valves. It's most likely because of standardization. Many small portable pumps cannot or can only with difficulty be converted to Schrader. Doesn't matter to me because I never had a valve failure with either Schrader or Presta. Rummaging around and cleaning the garage in a few spare minutes yesterday I would a mushroom-shaped furniture panel connector made from hollow aluminum. Should be easy to make a nice adapter plug from that and rivet it into the hole. I just have to find a suitable glue to hold it in place. The E6000 I ordered for another purpose (shoe repair) is still more than a week off. Other than holding the adapter in place when changing a tire there is no need to glue it in place as the valve stem will hold it in place quite satisfactorily. That's the main reason, not losing it when changing a tire. It's so easy to forget about that little thing and then I may have to make a new one. I might be able to widen the outside a bit with a punch which would also hold it in place. Sort of a poor man's riveting job. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Presta valve in a rim that was drilled for Schrader?
On 2019-09-09 15:16, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/9/2019 1:33 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2019-09-09 08:15, Tanguy Ortolo wrote: Chalo, 2019-09-09 08:21+0200: I can't imagine what your objection could be, given that Presta valves are inferior in every single possible way to Schraeder valves, except for their diameter. Count your blessings and use a better, less fault-prone tube. I cannot agree with that. The small diameter of Presta valves is one significant advantage, ... Yes, less compromise in the integrity and sturdiness of the rim. Does anyone have an incident where a valve hole caused a failure in a rim? A bike rim is in compression. Other stresses are small, unless one hits a heck of a bump. Which one occasionally does after passing a sign "Pavement Ends" or when it's California roads which often look worse than Romanian roads. Potholes galore. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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