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amended comment (wqs) Good Mirror that clamps on handlebars?
"gotbent" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On 17 Feb, 16:03, Peter Clinch wrote: wrote: I've been down this road a few years ago. If you want something sturdy then throw away the clamp and drill a hole through the handle bars. snip I've been riding a ten speed (remember those) with a mirror attached by drilling a hole through the handle bars. snip I wouldn't recommend putting holes in thin wall stressed aluminum tubing without some carbon fibre/epoxy reinforcement. Al doesn't have great fatigue strength anyway, and undrilled handlebars have been known to break too. AAMOF HPVelotechnik had to replace a lot of Speedmachine stems (ca 2001)...thin wall tube, hole for cables, stems broke. gotbent, aka FRT rider If the hole is in a no stress area, like between the edge of your palm and the end of the bar, there shouldn't be a problem. If the hole is somewere between your hand and the stem, there could be a stress failure. gotbent, aka FRT rider |
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Good Mirror that clamps on handlebars?
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... ATP* wrote: I have high racer type bars that turn down at the ends, so the typical bar-end handlebar mirror won't work. I have a Bell mirror that clamps on the handlebar but it's almost completely worthless, like all the other accessories now marketed by that firm. It is not only distorted but is just a flimsy POS. I'm looking for an old-fashioned type of mirror that clamps on, any ideas? I may have to adapt a motorcycle mirror. Thanks. Replace the handlebars with sensible "T-bars". "C-bars" are UGLY. Maybe so, but it's a new bike and I'm just enjoying riding it right now. I don't want to spend more money just yet.... |
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Good Mirror that clamps on handlebars?
On Feb 18, 9:18 pm, "ATP*" wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... ATP* wrote: I have high racer type bars that turn down at the ends, so the typical bar-end handlebar mirror won't work. I have a Bell mirror that clamps on the handlebar but it's almost completely worthless, like all the other accessories now marketed by that firm. It is not only distorted but is just a flimsy POS. I'm looking for an old-fashioned type of mirror that clamps on, any ideas? I may have to adapt a motorcycle mirror. Thanks. Replace the handlebars with sensible "T-bars". "C-bars" are UGLY. Maybe so, but it's a new bike and I'm just enjoying riding it right now. I don't want to spend more money just yet.... I disagree, I have been riding the same bicycle with C bars (is that what they're called?) for many years (won't tell you exactly because I can't believe it's been that long) and they are not thin walled. However, I rarely place my hands on the lower curved area because I like to see where I'm going. So on my bicycle the hole drilled for the mirror stem is not between my hand and the handle bar post. You don't need to purchase expensive mirrors, but once you use a mirror you wonder how you ever managed traffic without one. Also, I like being able to ride out of the "gutter" until I see a vehicle approaching. Less flat tires. |
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Good Mirror that clamps on handlebars?
wrote in message ... On Feb 18, 9:18 pm, "ATP*" wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... ATP* wrote: I have high racer type bars that turn down at the ends, so the typical bar-end handlebar mirror won't work. I have a Bell mirror that clamps on the handlebar but it's almost completely worthless, like all the other accessories now marketed by that firm. It is not only distorted but is just a flimsy POS. I'm looking for an old-fashioned type of mirror that clamps on, any ideas? I may have to adapt a motorcycle mirror. Thanks. Replace the handlebars with sensible "T-bars". "C-bars" are UGLY. Maybe so, but it's a new bike and I'm just enjoying riding it right now. I don't want to spend more money just yet.... I disagree, I have been riding the same bicycle with C bars (is that what they're called?) for many years (won't tell you exactly because I can't believe it's been that long) and they are not thin walled. However, I rarely place my hands on the lower curved area because I like to see where I'm going. So on my bicycle the hole drilled for the mirror stem is not between my hand and the handle bar post. You don't need to purchase expensive mirrors, but once you use a mirror you wonder how you ever managed traffic without one. Also, I like being able to ride out of the "gutter" until I see a vehicle approaching. Less flat tires. I think a mirror is a necessity, but I'm not following you on the hand position. How does placing your hands on the lower curved position block your vision? |
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On 21 Feb, 02:50, "ATP*" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Feb 18, 9:18 pm, "ATP*" wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... ATP* wrote: I have high racer type bars that turn down at the ends, so the typical bar-end handlebar mirror won't work. I have a Bell mirror that clamps on the handlebar but it's almost completely worthless, like all the other accessories now marketed by that firm. It is not only distorted but is just a flimsy POS. I'm looking for an old-fashioned type of mirror that clamps on, any ideas? I may have to adapt a motorcycle mirror. Thanks. Replace the handlebars with sensible "T-bars". "C-bars" are UGLY. Maybe so, but it's a new bike and I'm just enjoying riding it right now. I don't want to spend more money just yet.... I disagree, I have been riding the same bicycle with C bars (is that what they're called?) for many years (won't tell you exactly because I can't believe it's been that long) and they are not thin walled. However, I rarely place my hands on the lower curved area because I like to see where I'm going. So on my bicycle the hole drilled for the mirror stem is not between my hand and the handle bar post. You don't need to purchase expensive mirrors, but once you use a mirror you wonder how you ever managed traffic without one. Also, I like being able to ride out of the "gutter" until I see a vehicle approaching. Less flat tires. I think a mirror is a necessity, but I'm not following you on the hand position. How does placing your hands on the lower curved position block your vision? It doesn't really block my vision, but the natural, unstressed postion is to be looking at the road about four feet in front of the bicycle. On a long ride forcing my head back to see the road defeats the purpose of the recreation, by leaving me with a sore neck. This of course is the benefit of a recumbant (recumbent) style of bicycle. So I end up never using the lower portion of the bars. Fortunaltely mine has the dual brake levers to allow this. I have, in the past, run into several car doors using the lower portion of the bars to steer with. |
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wrote in message ... On 21 Feb, 02:50, "ATP*" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 18, 9:18 pm, "ATP*" wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... ATP* wrote: I have high racer type bars that turn down at the ends, so the typical bar-end handlebar mirror won't work. I have a Bell mirror that clamps on the handlebar but it's almost completely worthless, like all the other accessories now marketed by that firm. It is not only distorted but is just a flimsy POS. I'm looking for an old-fashioned type of mirror that clamps on, any ideas? I may have to adapt a motorcycle mirror. Thanks. Replace the handlebars with sensible "T-bars". "C-bars" are UGLY. Maybe so, but it's a new bike and I'm just enjoying riding it right now. I don't want to spend more money just yet.... I disagree, I have been riding the same bicycle with C bars (is that what they're called?) for many years (won't tell you exactly because I can't believe it's been that long) and they are not thin walled. However, I rarely place my hands on the lower curved area because I like to see where I'm going. So on my bicycle the hole drilled for the mirror stem is not between my hand and the handle bar post. You don't need to purchase expensive mirrors, but once you use a mirror you wonder how you ever managed traffic without one. Also, I like being able to ride out of the "gutter" until I see a vehicle approaching. Less flat tires. I think a mirror is a necessity, but I'm not following you on the hand position. How does placing your hands on the lower curved position block your vision? It doesn't really block my vision, but the natural, unstressed postion is to be looking at the road about four feet in front of the bicycle. On a long ride forcing my head back to see the road defeats the purpose of the recreation, by leaving me with a sore neck. This of course is the benefit of a recumbant (recumbent) style of bicycle. So I end up never using the lower portion of the bars. Fortunaltely mine has the dual brake levers to allow this. I have, in the past, run into several car doors using the lower portion of the bars to steer with. THe natural position on my bike seems to be looking up a little too much, if anything. |
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On 22 Feb, 15:03, "ATP*" wrote:
wrote in message ... On 21 Feb, 02:50, "ATP*" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 18, 9:18 pm, "ATP*" wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... ATP* wrote: I have high racer type bars that turn down at the ends, so the typical bar-end handlebar mirror won't work. I have a Bell mirror that clamps on the handlebar but it's almost completely worthless, like all the other accessories now marketed by that firm. It is not only distorted but is just a flimsy POS. I'm looking for an old-fashioned type of mirror that clamps on, any ideas? I may have to adapt a motorcycle mirror. Thanks. Replace the handlebars with sensible "T-bars". "C-bars" are UGLY. Maybe so, but it's a new bike and I'm just enjoying riding it right now. I don't want to spend more money just yet.... I disagree, I have been riding the same bicycle with C bars (is that what they're called?) for many years (won't tell you exactly because I can't believe it's been that long) and they are not thin walled. However, I rarely place my hands on the lower curved area because I like to see where I'm going. So on my bicycle the hole drilled for the mirror stem is not between my hand and the handle bar post. You don't need to purchase expensive mirrors, but once you use a mirror you wonder how you ever managed traffic without one. Also, I like being able to ride out of the "gutter" until I see a vehicle approaching. Less flat tires. I think a mirror is a necessity, but I'm not following you on the hand position. How does placing your hands on the lower curved position block your vision? It doesn't really block my vision, but the natural, unstressed postion is to be looking at the road about four feet in front of the bicycle. On a long ride forcing my head back to see the road defeats the purpose of the recreation, by leaving me with a sore neck. This of course is the benefit of arecumbant(recumbent) style of bicycle. So I end up never using the lower portion of the bars. Fortunaltely mine has the dual brake levers to allow this. I have, in the past, run into several car doors using the lower portion of the bars to steer with. THe natural position on my bike seems to be looking up a little too much, if anything. Could it be that I'm referring to a "ten speed" racing bike and you're referring to a recumbent? |
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wrote in message ... On 22 Feb, 15:03, "ATP*" wrote: wrote in message ... On 21 Feb, 02:50, "ATP*" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 18, 9:18 pm, "ATP*" wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... ATP* wrote: I have high racer type bars that turn down at the ends, so the typical bar-end handlebar mirror won't work. I have a Bell mirror that clamps on the handlebar but it's almost completely worthless, like all the other accessories now marketed by that firm. It is not only distorted but is just a flimsy POS. I'm looking for an old-fashioned type of mirror that clamps on, any ideas? I may have to adapt a motorcycle mirror. Thanks. Replace the handlebars with sensible "T-bars". "C-bars" are UGLY. Maybe so, but it's a new bike and I'm just enjoying riding it right now. I don't want to spend more money just yet.... I disagree, I have been riding the same bicycle with C bars (is that what they're called?) for many years (won't tell you exactly because I can't believe it's been that long) and they are not thin walled. However, I rarely place my hands on the lower curved area because I like to see where I'm going. So on my bicycle the hole drilled for the mirror stem is not between my hand and the handle bar post. You don't need to purchase expensive mirrors, but once you use a mirror you wonder how you ever managed traffic without one. Also, I like being able to ride out of the "gutter" until I see a vehicle approaching. Less flat tires. I think a mirror is a necessity, but I'm not following you on the hand position. How does placing your hands on the lower curved position block your vision? It doesn't really block my vision, but the natural, unstressed postion is to be looking at the road about four feet in front of the bicycle. On a long ride forcing my head back to see the road defeats the purpose of the recreation, by leaving me with a sore neck. This of course is the benefit of arecumbant(recumbent) style of bicycle. So I end up never using the lower portion of the bars. Fortunaltely mine has the dual brake levers to allow this. I have, in the past, run into several car doors using the lower portion of the bars to steer with. THe natural position on my bike seems to be looking up a little too much, if anything. Could it be that I'm referring to a "ten speed" racing bike and you're referring to a recumbent? OK, makes sense now. |
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On Feb 16, 10:51*pm, "ATP*" wrote:
I have high racer type bars that turn down at the ends, so the typical bar-end handlebar mirror won't work. I have a Bell mirror that clamps on the handlebar but it's almost completely worthless, like all the other accessories now marketed by that firm. It is not only distorted but is just a flimsy POS. I'm looking for an old-fashioned type of mirror that clamps on, any ideas? I may have to adapt a motorcycle mirror. Thanks. Here is another good option for you. ... the very sturdy (well made, vibration free, w/glass reflector), and highly adjustable Mirrycle Mirror. The problem is that it is intended to mount in the end of the hanlebar. I have mine moundet to a handlebar clamp made by Minoura. A few places sell the mirror in this configuration. Check the following links, for example... http://www.easystreetrecumbents.com/stuff/safety.html http://www.calhouncycle.com/ProductC...y=&pageStyle=H Jim McNamara |
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