Walking helmets

On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:31:19 +0100, Colin McKenzie yelled loudly:

Mr. Benn wrote (quoted by KeithT):
"Over 318,575 baby & toddler head injuries are recorded each
year!"(Department of Trade & Industry).
Again, common sense being ridiculed. What is wrong with people?

OK, let's try some common sense. Whichever way you cut this figure, it
means (if true) that 1 in 3 of us would have a recorded head injury in
infancy.

It turns out that about half a percent of us don't make it to 1 year
old, and another .1% (i.e. 1 in a thousand) don't make it to 5.

But of those who die under 1, about 2/3 die within 28 days of birth,
long before they can even turn over, let alone move around.

So. Deaths from all causes between 28 days and 5 years are around a
thousand times fewer than the number of these recorded injuries.

The only possible conclusion is that the infant skull is fully capable
of dealing with the knocks and bumps it's subjected to. Any attempt to
protect it is just likely to undermine the basic lesson all people learn
eventually - hitting your head hurts, so don't do it.

Yeap. When I was 7, an old style flat iron fell off the top shelf of a
neighbours Welsh Dresser and landed smack on my head. No fracture, 7
stitches and a lot of blood but it healed up pretty quick and there were
no lasting effects.

In article , KeithT (Keitht) wrote:

I am so please there is no such thing as 'common sense' or the
human race wouldn't have got as far as it has before wiping itself
out.

Circa 10 million years of development have produced a superb protective container
for the brain. Sadly wasted on the developers of thudguard who would probably
derive more benefit from a bumguard.

On Aug 9, 9:40*am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
Not Malcolm Wardlaw's spoof or the one from Copehagenize
(http://www.copenhagenize.com/2009/08/walking-helmet-is-good-helmet.html,
which seems to have fooled several people).

This one appears to be real.http://www.wear-a-helmet.com/

I have a friend who does charity work in Vietnam; I think his view
would be that they might be better off devoting their efforts to
removing the remaining landmines.

Guy
--http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/urc|http://www.nohelmetlaw.org.uk/
"Nullius in Verba" - take no man's word for it.
*- attr. Horace, chosen by John Evelyn for the Royal Society

Any restriction on cyclists is automatically a bad idea, no matter
what the safety implications. Any restriction on motorists is
automatically a good idea, no matter what the safety implications.
This is because I hate motorists and I want cyclists and public
transport users to take over the world, due to my "secret" socialist/
Communist leanings.

Guy Chapman (the real one: I know it's hard to tell these days)

On Aug 9, 3:40*pm, "Mr. Benn" %%@%%.% wrote:
Peter Grange wrote :

On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:17:24 +0200, Tosspot
wrote:

Think of the children....

* *http://www.thudguard.com/

You couldn't make it up.

It doesn't explain exactly how it stops your heart being rendered. Can
bike helmets do that too? I'm sure someone would have mentioned it if
they could ;-)

"Over 318,575 baby & toddler head injuries are recorded each
year!"(Department of Trade & Industry).

Again, common sense being ridiculed. *What is wrong with people?

Your story about your friend being put in hospital, and a cycle helmet
saving him from much worse injuries, was clearly just made up. There
is no way that cycle helmets could possibly be of any benefit. After
all, cyclists shouldn't have any restrictions put on them, since they
use a morally superior form of transport (and equally, motorists
should have as many restrictions put on them as possible, to punish
them for using a morally bankrupt form of transport). That is the
only important thing; mere safety concerns simply don't matter. Your
friend may have saved his life by using a helmet, but he damaged the
cycling cause by strengthening the case for more restrictions (however
sensible) being put on cyclists, so I'm sure he'd agree that he
shouldn't have worn a helmet then, and nor should any cyclists wear
helmets ever.

Terry wrote:
In article , KeithT (Keitht) wrote:

I am so please there is no such thing as 'common sense' or the
human race wouldn't have got as far as it has before wiping itself
out.

Circa 10 million years of development have produced a superb protective container
for the brain. Sadly wasted on the developers of thudguard who would probably
derive more benefit from a bumguard.
I'm more concerned about the language skills of those giving testimonials.

"...and in my experience, well-tolerate by busy and curious youngsters"
Lawson E. Stuart, RN, MBA, MICP
Executive Director
Academic Programs, California

"well tolerate"?


"I highly endorse this incredible product."
Dr. Kevin Fleming. Ph.D., P.C.
Neurophysiologist
Jackson Hole, Wyoming USA

"Highly endorse"?

" On my personal behalf, I want to lend full support to this effort to
prevent and mitigate head injury in babies and small children. "
Herman Delooz MD PhD FCCM FFAEM (Hons)
Former President of the European Society for Emergency Medicine. Former
Editor of the European Journal of Emergency Medicine.

"On my personal behalf" ?


", I have assisted the development of the Thudguard to protect toddlers
from the serious head injuries which can result from everyday falls and
tumbles. I believe Thudguard will achieve this aim and so add to the
peace of mind of carers, parents and even grandparents like me"


Group Captain David Glaister
OStJ, MB,BS, PhD, FFOM, RAF (Ret d)

"I believe Thudguard will achieve this aim"?
The aim of assisting the development of Thudguard?

"even grandparents like me"

Like I?



Either the people they asked were sloppy, or Thudguard are.

In article ,
(Marc) wrote:

Terry wrote:
Circa 10 million years of development have produced a superb
protective container for the brain. Sadly wasted on the developers
of thudguard who would probably derive more benefit from a bumguard.

I'm more concerned about the language skills of those giving
testimonials.

Now you mention it, it becomes obvious that the misprepresentation and scare
marketing pales into insignificance in the face of poor grammar.

Examples of poor grammar snipped

Either the people they asked were sloppy, or Thudguard are.

You may wish to note that Thudguard is not a plural.

On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:47:22 +0100, Marc
wrote:

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. I believe Thudguard will achieve this aim and so add to the
peace of mind of carers, parents and even grandparents like me"


"even grandparents like me"

Like I?


ho, ho, ho





Either the people they asked were sloppy, or Thudguard are.


Now what are you saying about people being sloppy?


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On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:31:19 +0100, "Colin McKenzie"
wrote:


Colin McKenzie

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No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at the
population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as walking.
Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org.


If it is an informed choice you are after - you need to keep clear of
cyclehelmets.org : not to be trusted - bunch of charlatans.

PS - your conclusion re cycling vs walking is actually wrong:


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DfT Figures 2007
Passenger casualty rates by mode Per billion passenger kilometers:
Killed or seriously injured: Pedal Cyclists : 533 Pedestrians 384
All casualties: Pedal Cyclists : 3739 Pedestrians : 1795
Please draw your own conclusion.