A stinking D lock

The Skunklock is "an innovative security device that promises to make anyone
attempting to make off with your bike vomit".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/recre...it-uncontroll/

It's a D lock that contains within it a pressurised noxious chemical
deterrent. If the lock is forced open by a would-be thief they would find
themselves sprayed with noxious chemicals. These chemicals "are so disgusting
they induce vomit in the majority of cases, and elicit an instinctive response
to run away immediately."

I would be amazed if such a device turns out to be legal in the UK.

In article ,
(Jude) wrote:

I would be amazed if such a device turns out to be legal in the UK.

How is it illegal? Remembering that commission of a lesser offence to
prevent the commission of a greater is as absolute defence.

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From (Paul Cummins):

In article ,
(Jude) wrote:

I would be amazed if such a device turns out to be legal in the UK.

How is it illegal?

I was just meaning that I think it is very probably going to be illegal.

Remembering that commission of a lesser offence to
prevent the commission of a greater is as absolute defence.

Given that pepper spray is classed as an offensive weapon here in the UK, I
don't see why this lock would be any different.

Admittedly, I can hardly see how the lock could be used as a toxic weapon, and
neither can I see how anyone would end up exposed to toxic chemicals by
accident. Still, I would be reluctant to risk an incident with the law by
owning and using such a lock... you go on ahead if you like, I'll wait and see
how you get on.

On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 12:21 +0100 (BST),
(Paul Cummins) wrote:

In article ,
(Jude) wrote:

I would be amazed if such a device turns out to be legal in the UK.

How is it illegal? Remembering that commission of a lesser offence to
prevent the commission of a greater is as absolute defence.

I'm not that attempting to nick a pushbike counts as a greater offence
that causing someone physical harm.

In article ,
(Peter Parry) wrote:

How is it illegal? Remembering that commission of a lesser offence
to
prevent the commission of a greater is as absolute defence.

I'm not that attempting to nick a pushbike counts as a greater
offence
that causing someone physical harm.

If the lock is being damaged or broke, then the theft amounts to robbery.

Even if it doesn't, theft is 7 years maximum, assault and criminal damage
is 5 years.

Maliciously Administering poinson with the intention to injure, aggrieve
or annoy - 6 months.

Significantly lesser offence.

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From (Paul Cummins):

In article ,
(Peter Parry) wrote:

How is it illegal? Remembering that commission of a lesser offence
to
prevent the commission of a greater is as absolute defence.

I'm not that attempting to nick a pushbike counts as a greater
offence
that causing someone physical harm.

If the lock is being damaged or broke, then the theft amounts to robbery.

Even if it doesn't, theft is 7 years maximum, assault and criminal damage
is 5 years.

Maliciously Administering poinson with the intention to injure, aggrieve
or annoy - 6 months.

Significantly lesser offence.

Although possession of an offensive weapon could bring it somewhat closer at 4
years maximum.

In article ,
(Jude) wrote:

Although possession of an offensive weapon could bring it somewhat
closer at 4
years maximum.

Still a lesser offence, so still a statutory defence to any charge.

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From (Paul Cummins):

In article ,
(Jude) wrote:

Although possession of an offensive weapon could bring it somewhat
closer at 4
years maximum.

Still a lesser offence, so still a statutory defence to any charge.

Nevertheless, Section 5(1) (b) of the firearms act 1968 prohibits any weapon
of any description, designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious
liquid, gas or other substance.

If the Skunklock is classed as an offensive weapon and someone is found in
possession of it and their bike has not been involved in a theft, or attempt
thereof, what defence do they have?

In article ,
(Jude) wrote:

If the Skunklock is classed as an offensive weapon and someone is
found in possession of it and their bike has not been involved in a
theft, or attempt thereof, what defence do they have?

Lots of if's there...

If I know my brother is ****ed, and I punch him to take his keys away
from him, knowing that he's never killed anyone driving home yet, what
offence have I committed?

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On 21/10/2016 23:14, Paul Cummins wrote:
In article ,
(Jude) wrote:

If the Skunklock is classed as an offensive weapon and someone is
found in possession of it and their bike has not been involved in a
theft, or attempt thereof, what defence do they have?

Lots of if's there...

If I know my brother is ****ed, and I punch him to take his keys away
from him, knowing that he's never killed anyone driving home yet, what
offence have I committed?



actual or grievous bodily harm (assuming he is still alive after the
attack)