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Old July 12th 11, 09:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fred Flintstein
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On 7/12/2011 2:49 PM, Dumbass wrote:
On Jul 12, 3:23 pm, Fred
wrote:
On 7/12/2011 1:57 PM, Dumbass wrote:





On Jul 12, 2:33 pm, Fred
wrote:
On 7/12/2011 12:53 PM, Dumbass wrote:


But I don't know the history that well. To what extent did he risk
losing the TDF in the name of honor?


If you can't shift your ****ing bike you don't deserve to win.
Waiting in that situation would have rewarded stupidity.


If you are in a race this weekend and blow a shift we all know
you will get nothing but love from your competitors. This is
as it should be.


F


PS I have no special love for Contador but I don't get why I
should feel sorry for some guy that can't shift his ****ing
bike.


So, is that the prevailing ethic? If you lose a chain it's your
fault?
No dishonor in taking advantage of your mishap?


Just like I said, drop a chain in your next race. Tell us
what happens.

And if you have a problem because you did something stupid
it ain't a mishap. It's the cost of being stupid.

And this goes triple(!) for people that modify a sponsor's
stock equipment.

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If that is the general assumption, then why is Contador not using that
as a public defense of his actions?

Seems to me that opinion is divided on the matter.


Contador, being more gracious than the average rbr reader, chose
not to rub Schleck's nose in it. Don't read anything into that
that isn't there.

F
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Old July 12th 11, 10:27 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Simply Fred
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Choppy Warburton wrote:
Lance wouldn't have been as gracious as Johny Hoogerland the other
day. He would have embarrased all of America and made Texas proud at
the same time by being some kind of vengeful asshole. It's the way
Bush would have wanted it.


Its interesting to speculate what HE would have done in that situation.
Its even more interesting to speculate what BL would have done when it
occurred.
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Old July 12th 11, 11:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fredmaster of Brainerd
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On Jul 12, 9:49*pm, Dumbass wrote:
On Jul 12, 3:23*pm, Fred Flintstein
wrote:









On 7/12/2011 1:57 PM, Dumbass wrote:


On Jul 12, 2:33 pm, Fred
wrote:
On 7/12/2011 12:53 PM, Dumbass wrote:


But I don't know the history that well. *To what extent did he risk
losing the TDF in the name of honor?


If you can't shift your ****ing bike you don't deserve to win.
Waiting in that situation would have rewarded stupidity.


If you are in a race this weekend and blow a shift we all know
you will get nothing but love from your competitors. This is
as it should be.


F


PS I have no special love for Contador but I don't get why I
should feel sorry for some guy that can't shift his ****ing
bike.


So, is that the prevailing ethic? *If you lose a chain it's your
fault?
No dishonor in taking advantage of your mishap?


Just like I said, drop a chain in your next race. Tell us
what happens.


And if you have a problem because you did something stupid
it ain't a mishap. It's the cost of being stupid.


And this goes triple(!) for people that modify a sponsor's
stock equipment.


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If that is the general assumption, then why is Contador not using that
as a public defense of his actions?

Seems to me that opinion is divided on the matter.


Dumbass,

Please stop styling yourself "Dumbass", as you are
a disgrace to the honorable tradition of rbr dumbasses.

It's 2011, not 2010, nobody gives a damn about your
opinion on last year's race, and I don't consider it a
matter of honor that we should have to wait for you for
a year to catch up.

Thanks,
Fredmaster Ben
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Old July 13th 11, 12:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Jimmy July[_3_]
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On 07/12/2011 12:49 PM, Dumbass wrote:
If that is the general assumption, then why is Contador not using that
as a public defense of his actions?

Seems to me that opinion is divided on the matter.


It is. All the dumbasses think Contador should have waited, the rest of
humanity thinks bike riders should know how to shift.

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Old July 13th 11, 12:02 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Jimmy July[_3_]
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On 07/12/2011 12:11 PM, Choppy Warburton wrote:
On Jul 12, 1:33 pm, Fred
wrote:
On 7/12/2011 12:53 PM, Dumbass wrote:

But I don't know the history that well. To what extent did he risk
losing the TDF in the name of honor?


If you can't shift your ****ing bike you don't deserve to win.
Waiting in that situation would have rewarded stupidity.

If you are in a race this weekend and blow a shift we all know
you will get nothing but love from your competitors. This is
as it should be.

F

PS I have no special love for Contador but I don't get why I
should feel sorry for some guy that can't shift his ****ing
bike.


Dumbass, ever since Shimano introduced indexed shifting no one knows
how to shift a bike and therefore deserved to win.


I thought Suntour introduced indexed shifting.
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Old July 13th 11, 12:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
ilan[_2_]
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On Jul 12, 10:11*pm, Frederick the Great wrote:
In article
,









*Dumbass wrote:
On Jul 12, 2:33*pm, Fred Flintstein
wrote:
On 7/12/2011 12:53 PM, Dumbass wrote:


But I don't know the history that well. *To what extent did he risk
losing the TDF in the name of honor?


If you can't shift your ****ing bike you don't deserve to win.
Waiting in that situation would have rewarded stupidity.


If you are in a race this weekend and blow a shift we all know
you will get nothing but love from your competitors. This is
as it should be.


F


PS I have no special love for Contador but I don't get why I
should feel sorry for some guy that can't shift his ****ing
bike.


So, is that the prevailing ethic? *If you lose a chain it's your
fault?
No dishonor in taking advantage of your mishap?


Correct. It's a _race_. Everybody is under _pressure_.
Winning requires getting everything right including
handling _pressure_. People under pressure make more
mistakes---such as blowing a shift. AMF.

--
Old Fritz


No that is dirty tactics. Take Eddy Merckx who was 8 minutes down on
Ocana, he attacked on a dangerous wet descent and thereby incited
Ocana to make a mistake, crash terribly, and lose the Tour. I think
Novitzky should investigate Eddy Merckx and indict him for attempted
murder.

-ilan
 




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