Cyclists get knocked for 6

Two cyclists who racially abused a motorist were knocked for six when he
retaliated with a cricket bat.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/te...rist---6250481

On 29/10/2013 23:00, Mrcheerful wrote:
Two cyclists who racially abused a motorist were knocked for six when he
retaliated with a cricket bat.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/te...rist---6250481

Teesside Crown Court has a really interesting line in external decoration:

http://i2.gazettelive.co.uk/incoming/article5778033.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS18830525-5778033.jpg

Very reassuring to anyone who likes to glug a few down.

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 00:42:52 +0000, JNugent wrote:

On 29/10/2013 23:00, Mrcheerful wrote:
Two cyclists who racially abused a motorist were knocked for six when he
retaliated with a cricket bat.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/te...rist---6250481

Teesside Crown Court has a really interesting line in external decoration:

http://i2.gazettelive.co.uk/incoming/article5778033.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS18830525-5778033.jpg

Very reassuring to anyone who likes to glug a few down.


Now, now - the term "Glug" may be offensive to some.

On 29/10/2013 23:00, Mrcheerful wrote:
Two cyclists who racially abused a motorist were knocked for six when he
retaliated with a cricket bat.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/te...rist---6250481


So if we read between the lines: abusive Muslim motorist has a go at
cyclists, attacks them and then tries to blame them by claiming that
they had racially abused him.

On 30/10/2013 09:48, Brian Robertson wrote:
On 29/10/2013 23:00, Mrcheerful wrote:
Two cyclists who racially abused a motorist were knocked for six when he
retaliated with a cricket bat.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/te...rist---6250481



So if we read between the lines: abusive Muslim motorist has a go at
cyclists, attacks them and then tries to blame them by claiming that
they had racially abused him.

I couldn't see any of that.

Where about was this, "between the lines"?

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:48:01 +0000, Brian Robertson
wrote:

On 29/10/2013 23:00, Mrcheerful wrote:
Two cyclists who racially abused a motorist were knocked for six when he
retaliated with a cricket bat.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/te...rist---6250481


So if we read between the lines: abusive Muslim motorist has a go at
cyclists, attacks them and then tries to blame them by claiming that
they had racially abused him.

Recorder David Dobbin accepted that the cyclists had racially insulted
Hussain.

On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:54:11 +0000, Phil W Lee
wrote:

Bertie Wooster considered Wed, 30 Oct 2013
10:00:57 +0000 the perfect time to write:

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:48:01 +0000, Brian Robertson
wrote:

On 29/10/2013 23:00, Mrcheerful wrote:
Two cyclists who racially abused a motorist were knocked for six when he
retaliated with a cricket bat.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/te...rist---6250481


So if we read between the lines: abusive Muslim motorist has a go at
cyclists, attacks them and then tries to blame them by claiming that
they had racially abused him.

Recorder David Dobbin accepted that the cyclists had racially insulted
Hussain.

But without any evidence other than the word of a convicted criminal.
Doesn't it make you proud of our wonderful criminal injustice system.

Unless you know otherwise, Hussain was not a convicted criminal at the
time he gave evidence that the cyclists had racially abused him.

Something triggered Hussain's reaction to the cyclists. I think it
more likely than not that it was a racial slur by one or both of the
cyclists.

On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 03:18:49 +0000, Phil W Lee
wrote:

Bertie Wooster considered Thu, 31 Oct 2013
23:00:03 +0000 the perfect time to write:

On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:54:11 +0000, Phil W Lee
wrote:

Bertie Wooster considered Wed, 30 Oct 2013
10:00:57 +0000 the perfect time to write:

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:48:01 +0000, Brian Robertson
wrote:

On 29/10/2013 23:00, Mrcheerful wrote:
Two cyclists who racially abused a motorist were knocked for six when he
retaliated with a cricket bat.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/te...rist---6250481


So if we read between the lines: abusive Muslim motorist has a go at
cyclists, attacks them and then tries to blame them by claiming that
they had racially abused him.

Recorder David Dobbin accepted that the cyclists had racially insulted
Hussain.

But without any evidence other than the word of a convicted criminal.
Doesn't it make you proud of our wonderful criminal injustice system.

Unless you know otherwise, Hussain was not a convicted criminal at the
time he gave evidence that the cyclists had racially abused him.

He'd plead guilty at the preliminary hearing, so this would have been
the sentencing hearing.
Hence he was already a convicted criminal, or there could not have
been any sentencing.

Something triggered Hussain's reaction to the cyclists. I think it
more likely than not that it was a racial slur by one or both of the
cyclists.

I've seen enough examples of idiots getting bent out of shape about
cyclists using the road.
The statement by the victim seems to indicate that the whole incident
was started by idiot in car being upset at not being allowed to
overtake dangerously, and sounding his horn - then when the cyclists
delayed their journey to allow him past, he instead stopped the car,
got out, and went round to the boot (so some level of premeditation)
to fetch the cricket bat with which he attacked them.
I've also come across a few people who when if challenged about any
aspect of their misbehaviour come up with the same excuse as the
criminal in this case.
In fact, that seems to be sufficiently common to be criticised even by
advocates for ethnic minority groups.

Yes, your honour.

On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:58:35 +0000, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

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Yes, your honour.


Indeed: more milk please Anchor.

On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 03:18:49 +0000, Phil W Lee wrote:

snip


Hello Anchor: are you still practicing law or are you in Cafe Nero these days?


I just love recapping on your legal advice:

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Precedent is that if you /can/ ride a
bike, you aren't drunk enough for it to be illegal.

If you find 2 abreast cyclists more obstructive than single file ones, you must
have been intending to pass dangerously close anyway.

If you claim to be held up by a cyclist, you are admitting to dangerous
driving, since the only way you could be held up is if your intention was to
pass dangerously close.

Commenting on a legal gate in a public park: I'd think it comes under the
heading of "causing an obstruction",
and should be investigated by the police as such.

If Traffic Lights are not working, then you can telephone the police for
permission to proceed.
If this is not forthcoming, then you can reports it as "unlawful detention".

The police have clearly not been persuaded by the Law Lords, and still
try to treat the procession as unlawful. In this they are now equally
clearly in contempt of court.

It could usefilly sic be pointed out to motorists that if they are within
range of a swung D lock, they are too close, and could be held liable
for any collision (including with the D lock).

I would find it very hard to condemn anyone who beat the van driver
into permanent inability to drive

I hope he hits you next, then we can all have a good laugh.
With any luck, you will be a dribbling vegetable in permanent pain
afterwards, but will continue your sad existence for many painful
decades.
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Some responsibility must also lie with TfL, who were warned about how
dangerous the junction layout was for cyclists (just as with the Bow
Roundabout, and Kings Cross Gyratory), but chose to ignore the
warnings and let cyclists die instead.

Corporate Manslaughter charges are well overdue for them.
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Speaking on the increase of cyclist KSIs in 2012:

So it's probably due to politically motivated neglect of duty on the
part of the police and CPS. By apparently directing this neglect, Hammond
Transport Minister
should be charged with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, along with
all the senior
police officers who colluded in allowing the carnage.
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Stop lines at traffic lights:
If you can find a gap in the stop line, it's legal to continue through
it.


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If the *******s won't do anything about the taxi driver risking
people's lives by dangerous driving, book him to take your kids on a
trip, then report him for kiddy-fiddling. He'll never drive a taxi
again.

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Traffic with an absolute right of way should not be inconvenienced by having to
divert through complicated multi-stage crossings in out-of-the-way places, just
to benefit permissive use by motor-terrorists.