I don't understand - what is this for?

On Aug 5, 9:59 am, JD wrote:
On Aug 5, 4:24 am, Ozark Bicycle

wrote:
Simple experiment: If you have a manual transmission car, try driving
around all day in third, including hills and 'standing starts'. All
day, or as long as ya can stand it.

Put the banjo down and go ride your bike.

JD

Anything you say, asshole.

Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
Steve Baker wrote:
Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
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Who exactly is the target market for this bike?


Tom,
Basic rule is "If you have to ask, then it's not you."
If you don't understand, then you won't enjoy it, so stop worrying,
and especially stop denigrating just coz it's beyond you. That's how
bigotry starts....

Geeeze, and I thought it was curiosity.

However, the question remains, is the target market buying the Trek
69er, or will 2007 models be available at your local Trek dealer next
year at a highly discounted price?


Why don't you ask a Trek dealer if it is selling? They'll be able to
tell much better than this raggedy bunch can.

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:53:04 -0700, JD wrote:

On Aug 4, 6:02 pm, Ozark Bicycle
wrote:
On Aug 4, 7:45 pm, JD wrote:





On Aug 4, 3:33 pm, Fred Clydesdale wrote:

personally, i've never gotten the whole single/fixie thing, and
a singlespeed mtb seems beyond useless.

We can't all be closed-minded dumbasses.

i pass at least 5 fixies
a week on the various hills of my weekday ride, never had things
happen the other way around. and i'm a CLYDESDALE, for heaven's
sake. i'm carrying 3 pounds more bike and 20 pounds more of me
up those hills.

C'mon out and ride with me sometime. I'll show you just how
inefficient singlespeed bikes are. Your weekday ride sounds like it's
loaded with punks and poseurs.

JD 225lbs and can still kick your ass

No one talks smack quite like a SS or fixie freak.....


If you think it's unsubstantiated smack, keep kidding yourself.

JD

Dear JD,

Why don't Tour de France riders use single speeds?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

On Aug 5, 1:46 pm, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:53:04 -0700, JD wrote:
On Aug 4, 6:02 pm, Ozark Bicycle
wrote:
On Aug 4, 7:45 pm, JD wrote:

On Aug 4, 3:33 pm, Fred Clydesdale wrote:

personally, i've never gotten the whole single/fixie thing, and
a singlespeed mtb seems beyond useless.

We can't all be closed-minded dumbasses.

i pass at least 5 fixies
a week on the various hills of my weekday ride, never had things
happen the other way around. and i'm a CLYDESDALE, for heaven's
sake. i'm carrying 3 pounds more bike and 20 pounds more of me
up those hills.

C'mon out and ride with me sometime. I'll show you just how
inefficient singlespeed bikes are. Your weekday ride sounds like it's
loaded with punks and poseurs.

JD 225lbs and can still kick your ass

No one talks smack quite like a SS or fixie freak.....

If you think it's unsubstantiated smack, keep kidding yourself.

JD

Dear JD,

Why don't Tour de France riders use single speeds?


'Cuz they're too wimpy to "kick some ass"?

All the serious guys are stylin' at Starbucks, not riding the TdF.

"Ozark Bicycle" wrote in message
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On Aug 5, 9:59 am, JD wrote:
On Aug 5, 4:24 am, Ozark Bicycle

wrote:
Simple experiment: If you have a manual transmission car, try driving
around all day in third, including hills and 'standing starts'. All
day, or as long as ya can stand it.

Put the banjo down and go ride your bike.

JD

Anything you say, asshole.


Nice come back. You must have put a lot of thought into it.

Gary

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Thanks for the exposition on trials motorcycle wheels and tires.

--
Michael Press

In article
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Tim McNamara wrote:

In article ,
Fred Clydesdale wrote:

In article ,
"Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman" ""sunsetss0003\"@invalida .com"
wrote:

Is the bigger front wheel to better roll over obstacles, or is it
just a demented fashion statement? Conversely, does the smaller
rear wheel provide any real advantage?

What is the deal with single-speed anyway?
...
Who exactly is the target market for this bike?

personally, i've never gotten the whole single/fixie thing, and a
singlespeed mtb seems beyond useless.

Fixed gears are just fun, but there is the "hipster effect" that extends
the adoption of these things beyond fun and into "cool." Or is that
"kool?" I can't keep up with what's hip. I used to fixed gear a lot
but a martial arts knee injury and surgery has ended that- I suspect
that the effects of descending would be damaging. I do have a single
speed road bike that is- again- just plain fun. Eliminating gearing
decisions from the ride lets me just pay attention to the ride and not
to the bike. And, heck, on my bikes with derailleurs it's not uncommon
for me to go on a ride of 50 miles and never shift gears.

I think MTBs are generally useless, let alone single speed MTBs, so I'm
not so much the right person to comment on that subset.

A few years ago, Dirt Rag Magazine (or similar) published the "cheapest,
easiest single speed conversion:" "Take your bike and put it in a
medium gear. Never shift again."

Now _that_ is cool, saying it in a publication.

I have done that exercise. Learned a lot, improved my cycling.

--
Michael Press

In article ,
A Muzi wrote:

See http://www2.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/69er.html.

Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
Is the bigger front wheel to better roll over obstacles, or is it just a
demented fashion statement? Conversely, does the smaller rear wheel
provide any real advantage?
What is the deal with single-speed anyway?
Are there prudish Trek dealers out there who will not carry this bike
because the name, or dealers who would be afraid of offending their
customers? Is the "69er" name meant to appeal to the BMX crowd who buys
products such as the "Snafu Rim Job" tires?
Is the Waterloo, Wisconsin water supply contaminated with a parasite
that causes brain dysfunction?
Who exactly is the target market for this bike?

Cannondog made a 26/24 bike at one time.
Bill Boston built small front/large rear, much copied.

Target? PT Barnum observed the effect long ago.

Target for small front wheels: riders at 5' 4" and shorter.

--
Michael Press

In article rSnti.348$mw4.286@trndny09,
Steve Baker wrote:

Why don't you ask a Trek dealer if it is selling? They'll be able to
tell much better than this raggedy bunch can.

From a plea for sanity and tolerance
to mud-slinging in a single bound.

--
Michael Press

Per Michael Press:
Now _that_ is cool, saying it in a publication.

I have done that exercise. Learned a lot, improved my cycling.

I have too - with one of my Rohloff setups.

But for some reason, when I converted a bike to "real" SS, it was
different.

Gotta be psychological, right? But it really felt "better" in
the sense of simplicity/lightness.

In the end I abandoned the SS concept for reasons already given
in this thread.

I do, however, think I understand where SS fans are coming from.
--
PeteCresswell