Sydney City Council Cycle Plan

cfsmtb wrote:
EuanB Wrote:

Width is a factor. IMO the most important factors a

1) Cyclists not in the line of sight of other road users (until the
very last instant)

2) Cyclists coming from a direction unexpected by other road users.

They will have traffic lights to control bikes and cars at
intersections. If you want to turn right I guess you will have a
separate phase.


3) Bar ends. No I'm not being completely facetious here either.

No, yr right about that.



Interesting times in Sydney, it seems most of the progressive transport
initiatives are coming from either the Greens or Liberals. ALP? They
went MIA until the very last moment, see here;
http://www.vote4cycling.com.au/candidate_survey.html

For starters at the local government level, there's Cr Shayne Mallard
and Cr Norman Jew

? He passed some IMHO silly motion at the LGA conference about all off
road cycleways in new subdivisions- doesnt believe cyclists should be on
the road.


doing a lot of excellent work on behalf of cyclists.
Also there's some very switched on local government employees, although
general networking up in NSW isn't as good as down here in Vic, ie:
we've got Sustainable Transport Officers in many local councils. But
the NSW situation can be worked upon & improved.




you can download the whole City bike plan from the
cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au site, under committees/planning. It was up for
approval yesterday. A quick squizz at it and they have changed Kent St
to a Local Route and are thinking of using Clarence St as the main link
to the bridge. Attachments A and C have diagrams of the proposed 2 way
bike lanes, and there _are_ Bollards. Seems they have had a major
rethink since the plan was released for comment last year and have
decided car door lanes are no good and are going for these two way cycle
lanes on one side instead on some main routes. Some have a 0.7 metre
median between cars and bikes, others seem to have just a narrow line of
bollards separating moving traffic or parked cars from bikes. Seems they
are ignoring the RTA guidelines about not having vertical obstacles
right next to a cyclepath - to allow for handlebar or pedal clearance.

Still have to watch out for opening car doors (as cars will be parked
in some cases next to the bollards) and people stepping out of cars onto
the cycle lane.

TimC wrote:

Bollards.

The ****ing solution to everything. Stupid ****ers.

Naah, round here it is

1) speed humps, for a decade now. Always speed humps.

2) those upside U shapes ACROSS the bicycle path in disjoint pairs.

Robert Moore Wrote:


? He passed some IMHO silly motion at the LGA conference about all off
road cycleways in new subdivisions- doesnt believe cyclists should be
on
the road.

Fair call, although keep in mind Cr Jew is a relatively recent convert
to cycling, so his newbie perspective may broaden with more experience.
Although I can't really fault his attitude for overall safer cycling
facilities, see more he
http://www.rideforlife.com.au/


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cfsmtb

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:05:07 +1000, Robert Moore wrote:

They will have traffic lights to control bikes and cars at
intersections. If you want to turn right I guess you will have a
separate phase.

Lights are the RTA's responsibility (good luck).
And what happens at drive ways, parking entrances, alleys, side streets,
pedestrian crossings etc.?

I haven't seen reports of anything similar working, guess we will have to
see what the council and RTA come up with. Though it sounds like something
that should be trialed before being rolled out on a large scale.

So two way cycle paths are now "Bike Roads". And report lists them as only
be considered, and then built within a budget that is far lower than the
sum of the proposed work in the old draft plan. A lot of the plan is
dependant on State Government authorities and with Bike Plan 2010 and
regional routes effectively scrapped are uncertain.

you can download the whole City bike plan from the
cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au site, under committees/planning. It was up for
approval yesterday. A quick squizz at it and they have changed Kent St
to a Local Route and are thinking of using Clarence St as the main link
to the bridge.

The Kent St becomes less attractive with the State Government reversing the
lane changes for the Cross City Tunnel around Town Hall.

dewatf.