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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, spitted upon, pushed around and
even killed, isn't it time we enjoy the same benefits as other Americans? When is a cyclist going into a rage and mow down all those careless SUV drivers who make us feel worthless? Imagine this scenario: You get hit and as you roll down the pavement you draw and... I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? Here's a good identifying T-shirt... http://www.cafepress.com/burncalories Still Bush defends the right to bear arms EVEN as President George Bush told the nation he was praying for the victims, and that the killings in a place of learning would affect "every American classroom and community", a White House official said Mr Bush continued to believe in the "right to bear arms". http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/...html?from=top5 WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote BIKE FOR PEACE http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace |
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Curtis L. Russell wrote:
On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 wrote: I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia Tech campus? And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think you made some point or another. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Now as to cyclists packing heat, thats just extra weight I don't want to carry around on my rides. Ken |
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On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954
wrote: Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, spitted upon, pushed around and even killed, isn't it time we enjoy the same benefits as other Americans? When is a cyclist going into a rage and mow down all those careless SUV drivers who make us feel worthless? Imagine this scenario: You get hit and as you roll down the pavement you draw and... I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? Here's a good identifying T-shirt... http://www.cafepress.com/burncalories Still Bush defends the right to bear arms Still, it's the Constitution that affirms ( not 'gives' ) that RIGHT, and he abides by the Constitution. EVEN as President George Bush told the nation he was praying for the victims, and that the killings in a place of learning would affect "every American classroom and community", a White House official said Mr Bush continued to believe in the "right to bear arms". Excellent ! He supports the Constitution and fundamental rights now matter HOW much the left-wing nutters would like to ignore those things in their never ending drive to engineer a society more to their own liking ! -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:51:02 -0400, Just A User
wrote: Curtis L. Russell wrote: On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 wrote: I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia Tech campus? And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think you made some point or another. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Google 'Dunblane', and retract your statement. And if you think a society where you are tracked on camera from the moment you leave your own front door until the moment you return, where you are REQUIRED to submit to criminal attack, where you are PROHIBITED from defending yourself even in your own home, then I suggest you move to the UK yourself. Now as to cyclists packing heat, thats just extra weight I don't want to carry around on my rides. Then you better go on a diet, it's only ~ 1 -2 pounds. Ken -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:51:02 -0400, Just A User wrote: Curtis L. Russell wrote: On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 wrote: I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia Tech campus? And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think you made some point or another. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Google 'Dunblane', and retract your statement. And if you think a society where you are tracked on camera from the moment you leave your own front door until the moment you return, where you are REQUIRED to submit to criminal attack, where you are PROHIBITED from defending yourself even in your own home, then I suggest you move to the UK yourself. Now as to cyclists packing heat, thats just extra weight I don't want to carry around on my rides. Then you better go on a diet, it's only ~ 1 -2 pounds. Ken Okay so that is one, but they are a lot less common than here in the U.S. Here in the gun happy U.S. we have at least a couple of mass shootings per year. Oh yeah and the one you mentioned only resulted in half the number of deaths as occurred on Monday. Ken |
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Curtis L. Russell wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:51:02 -0400, Just A User wrote: Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Well, actually they do, but not in the quantity that the U.S. has, and they seem to be somewhat less successful, even if the intent was there. There have been incidents in Germany and Scotland and several in Canada. Starting this thread - often initiated by those who like to tell everyone what they will do to this driver or another - is pretty much stupid. Doing it today is what makes it tasteless to boot. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... I agree it's pretty tasteless, as I pointed out, until all guns are banned and destroyed, these types of events will happen, but until that time comes, control is the key. Ken |
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Just A User wrote:
Curtis L. Russell wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:51:02 -0400, Just A User wrote: Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Well, actually they do, but not in the quantity that the U.S. has, and they seem to be somewhat less successful, even if the intent was there. There have been incidents in Germany and Scotland and several in Canada. Starting this thread - often initiated by those who like to tell everyone what they will do to this driver or another - is pretty much stupid. Doing it today is what makes it tasteless to boot. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... I agree it's pretty tasteless, as I pointed out, until all guns are banned and destroyed, these types of events will happen, but until that time comes, control is the key. Heaven knows the criminals will abide by laws and regulations. (Or, just use gasoline and fertilizer.) |
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In rec.bicycles.misc asshat1954 wrote:
snipped for excessive wangst I'm touch surprised that it took you this long to crawl out from under your bridge. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Many people will use this terrible tragedy as an excuse to put through a political agenda other than my own. This tawdry abuse of human suffering for political gain sickens me to the core of my being. Those people who have different political views from me ought to be ashamed of themselves for thinking of cheap partisan point-scoring at a time like this. In any case, what this tragedy really shows us is that, so far from putting into practice political views other than my own, it is precisely my political agenda which ought to be advanced. Not only are my political views vindicated by this terrible tragedy, but also the status of my profession. Furthermore, it is only in the context of a national and international tragedy like this that we are reminded of the very special status of my hobby, and its particular claim to legislative protection. My religious and spiritual views also have much to teach us about the appropriate reaction to these truly terrible events" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001...02423.271.html Tb pubxr ba n ohpxrg bs pbpxf. -- Dane Buson - "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away". -- Philip K. Dick |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:12:32 -0400, Just A User
wrote: wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:51:02 -0400, Just A User wrote: Curtis L. Russell wrote: On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 wrote: I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia Tech campus? And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think you made some point or another. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Google 'Dunblane', and retract your statement. And if you think a society where you are tracked on camera from the moment you leave your own front door until the moment you return, where you are REQUIRED to submit to criminal attack, where you are PROHIBITED from defending yourself even in your own home, then I suggest you move to the UK yourself. Now as to cyclists packing heat, thats just extra weight I don't want to carry around on my rides. Then you better go on a diet, it's only ~ 1 -2 pounds. Ken Okay so that is one, but they are a lot less common than here in the U.S. Here in the gun happy U.S. we have at least a couple of mass shootings per year. Population of UK - 60,000,000 Population of US - 300,000,000 Freedoms in the US - VASTLY more. Oh yeah and the one you mentioned only resulted in half the number of deaths as occurred on Monday. Meaningless. You do not set national policy for 60,000,000 people or 300,000,000 people based on the aberrant acts of one or two or 10 or 100 lunatics. You do not base a society's laws on 'What limits should be placed on the worst of us ( or, in the case of VA Tech, the worst of what we allow to come in from some other country ), to craziest of us, the most anti-social and dangerous of us. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:18:19 -0400, Just A User
wrote: Curtis L. Russell wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:51:02 -0400, Just A User wrote: Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Well, actually they do, but not in the quantity that the U.S. has, and they seem to be somewhat less successful, even if the intent was there. There have been incidents in Germany and Scotland and several in Canada. Starting this thread - often initiated by those who like to tell everyone what they will do to this driver or another - is pretty much stupid. Doing it today is what makes it tasteless to boot. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... I agree it's pretty tasteless, as I pointed out, until all guns are banned and destroyed, these types of events will happen, but until that time comes, control is the key. Ken Yeh, right. Let's only let the Government have them. Where did you get that one, Mein Kampf ? -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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