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It grieves me about all the violence occurring as the result of many police
activities resulting in the deaths of people in the U.S. Killing of innocent people by police is evil. Great though they may be, God actively restrains the test and temptations that come our way so that we will not experience anything greater than we can bear. (see 1 Corinthians 10:13) Fatal car and airplane accidents bring awful devastation, but statistically these are rare. On January 15, 2009, what should have brought certain death to passengers aboard Flight 1549, and catastrophe to Manhattan, turned into what secular reporters labeled a "miracle". The pilot, Chesley Sullenbeger, safely landed a crippled plane in New York's Hudson river, with no serious injuries. While chunks of ice and busy ferries filled most of the river, the place where the plane came down remained clear of both ice and boats. It landed without breaking apart. Ferryboat captains rescued all 155 people from the frigid river within minutes. The New York Times suggested "more than luck" brought brought the plane down mere minutes from experts trained in water rescues. Passengers who said they hadn't believed in God nevertheless prayed to him on the plane, then publicly thanked him for sparing their lives. I tell this story to raise a question. Is it not likely that a kind and all powerful God routinely prevents terrible tragedies in ways that we do not see and therefore do not credit as miracles? While the miracle of Flight 1549 appears to be the exception, not the rule, we cannot know about the most of the equally miraculous interventions of God that may have invisibly prevented other tragedies. Perhaps one day we'll hear those stories and marvel at how God intervened when we imagined him uninvolved in our world. I ask that you pray that people will realize that their Creator loves them. Thanks, Andy |
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Andy wrote:
It grieves me about all the violence occurring as the result of many police activities resulting in the deaths of people in the U.S. Killing of innocent people by police is evil. Great though they may be, God actively restrains the test and temptations that come our way so that we will not experience anything greater than we can bear. (see 1 Corinthians 10:13) Fatal car and airplane accidents bring awful devastation, but statistically these are rare. On January 15, 2009, what should have brought certain death to passengers aboard Flight 1549, and catastrophe to Manhattan, turned into what secular reporters labeled a "miracle". The pilot, Chesley Sullenbeger, safely landed a crippled plane in New York's Hudson river, with no serious injuries. While chunks of ice and busy ferries filled most of the river, the place where the plane came down remained clear of both ice and boats. It landed without breaking apart. Ferryboat captains rescued all 155 people from the frigid river within minutes. The New York Times suggested "more than luck" brought brought the plane down mere minutes from experts trained in water rescues. Passengers who said they hadn't believed in God nevertheless prayed to him on the plane, then publicly thanked him for sparing their lives. I tell this story to raise a question. Is it not likely that a kind and all powerful God routinely prevents terrible tragedies in ways that we do not see and therefore do not credit as miracles? While the miracle of Flight 1549 appears to be the exception, not the rule, we cannot know about the most of the equally miraculous interventions of God that may have invisibly prevented other tragedies. Perhaps one day we'll hear those stories and marvel at how God intervened when we imagined him uninvolved in our world. I ask that you pray that people will realize that their Creator loves them. Thanks, Andy My thoughts on the topic are closer to Andy Partridge’s than they are to yours. https://youtu.be/p554R-Jq43A |
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On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:09:47 AM UTC-5, Ralph Barone wrote:
Andy wrote: It grieves me about all the violence occurring as the result of many police activities resulting in the deaths of people in the U.S. Killing of innocent people by police is evil. Great though they may be, God actively restrains the test and temptations that come our way so that we will not experience anything greater than we can bear. (see 1 Corinthians 10:13) Fatal car and airplane accidents bring awful devastation, but statistically these are rare. On January 15, 2009, what should have brought certain death to passengers aboard Flight 1549, and catastrophe to Manhattan, turned into what secular reporters labeled a "miracle". The pilot, Chesley Sullenbeger, safely landed a crippled plane in New York's Hudson river, with no serious injuries. While chunks of ice and busy ferries filled most of the river, the place where the plane came down remained clear of both ice and boats. It landed without breaking apart. Ferryboat captains rescued all 155 people from the frigid river within minutes. The New York Times suggested "more than luck" brought brought the plane down mere minutes from experts trained in water rescues. Passengers who said they hadn't believed in God nevertheless prayed to him on the plane, then publicly thanked him for sparing their lives. I tell this story to raise a question. Is it not likely that a kind and all powerful God routinely prevents terrible tragedies in ways that we do not see and therefore do not credit as miracles? While the miracle of Flight 1549 appears to be the exception, not the rule, we cannot know about the most of the equally miraculous interventions of God that may have invisibly prevented other tragedies. Perhaps one day we'll hear those stories and marvel at how God intervened when we imagined him uninvolved in our world. I ask that you pray that people will realize that their Creator loves them. Thanks, Andy My thoughts on the topic are closer to Andy Partridge’s than they are to yours. https://youtu.be/p554R-Jq43A Well Ralph, you are entitled to your beliefs. The video offers no hope. It's a eat drink and be merry, and then we die. That's quite sad. It is interesting that you are the only one to remark about my post. That in itself says volumes. I on the other hand have hope. I know that life on Earth is not all there is. That is in spite that for over 30 years, I HAD level 9 neck pain 24 hrs a day. If you have been to a hospital, you may have seen the pain chart showing the characteristics of the 10 levels of pain. God answered my prayer last year. :-) Andy |
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On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 9:39:21 AM UTC+2, Andy wrote:
On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:09:47 AM UTC-5, Ralph Barone wrote: Andy wrote: It grieves me about all the violence occurring as the result of many police activities resulting in the deaths of people in the U.S. Killing of innocent people by police is evil. Great though they may be, God actively restrains the test and temptations that come our way so that we will not experience anything greater than we can bear. (see 1 Corinthians 10:13) Fatal car and airplane accidents bring awful devastation, but statistically these are rare. On January 15, 2009, what should have brought certain death to passengers aboard Flight 1549, and catastrophe to Manhattan, turned into what secular reporters labeled a "miracle". The pilot, Chesley Sullenbeger, safely landed a crippled plane in New York's Hudson river, with no serious injuries. While chunks of ice and busy ferries filled most of the river, the place where the plane came down remained clear of both ice and boats. It landed without breaking apart. Ferryboat captains rescued all 155 people from the frigid river within minutes. The New York Times suggested "more than luck" brought brought the plane down mere minutes from experts trained in water rescues. Passengers who said they hadn't believed in God nevertheless prayed to him on the plane, then publicly thanked him for sparing their lives. I tell this story to raise a question. Is it not likely that a kind and all powerful God routinely prevents terrible tragedies in ways that we do not see and therefore do not credit as miracles? While the miracle of Flight 1549 appears to be the exception, not the rule, we cannot know about the most of the equally miraculous interventions of God that may have invisibly prevented other tragedies. Perhaps one day we'll hear those stories and marvel at how God intervened when we imagined him uninvolved in our world. I ask that you pray that people will realize that their Creator loves them. Thanks, Andy My thoughts on the topic are closer to Andy Partridge’s than they are to yours. https://youtu.be/p554R-Jq43A Well Ralph, you are entitled to your beliefs. The video offers no hope. It's a eat drink and be merry, and then we die. That's quite sad. It is interesting that you are the only one to remark about my post. That in itself says volumes. I on the other hand have hope. I know that life on Earth is not all there is. That is in spite that for over 30 years, I HAD level 9 neck pain 24 hrs a day. If you have been to a hospital, you may have seen the pain chart showing the characteristics of the 10 levels of pain. God answered my prayer last year. :-) Andy You must be a happy man to believe that all the bad happens for a reason and the good is an answer from a higher power to your and others prayer. Good for you. Other people think otherwise and most of them are good and decent people. Have a nice day. Lou |
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On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:36:10 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 9:39:21 AM UTC+2, Andy wrote: On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:09:47 AM UTC-5, Ralph Barone wrote: Andy wrote: It grieves me about all the violence occurring as the result of many police activities resulting in the deaths of people in the U.S. Killing of innocent people by police is evil. Great though they may be, God actively restrains the test and temptations that come our way so that we will not experience anything greater than we can bear. (see 1 Corinthians 10:13) Fatal car and airplane accidents bring awful devastation, but statistically these are rare. On January 15, 2009, what should have brought certain death to passengers aboard Flight 1549, and catastrophe to Manhattan, turned into what secular reporters labeled a "miracle". The pilot, Chesley Sullenbeger, safely landed a crippled plane in New York's Hudson river, with no serious injuries. While chunks of ice and busy ferries filled most of the river, the place where the plane came down remained clear of both ice and boats. It landed without breaking apart. Ferryboat captains rescued all 155 people from the frigid river within minutes. The New York Times suggested "more than luck" brought brought the plane down mere minutes from experts trained in water rescues. Passengers who said they hadn't believed in God nevertheless prayed to him on the plane, then publicly thanked him for sparing their lives. I tell this story to raise a question. Is it not likely that a kind and all powerful God routinely prevents terrible tragedies in ways that we do not see and therefore do not credit as miracles? While the miracle of Flight 1549 appears to be the exception, not the rule, we cannot know about the most of the equally miraculous interventions of God that may have invisibly prevented other tragedies. Perhaps one day we'll hear those stories and marvel at how God intervened when we imagined him uninvolved in our world. I ask that you pray that people will realize that their Creator loves them. Thanks, Andy My thoughts on the topic are closer to Andy Partridge’s than they are to yours. https://youtu.be/p554R-Jq43A Well Ralph, you are entitled to your beliefs. The video offers no hope. It's a eat drink and be merry, and then we die. That's quite sad. It is interesting that you are the only one to remark about my post. That in itself says volumes. I on the other hand have hope. I know that life on Earth is not all there is. That is in spite that for over 30 years, I HAD level 9 neck pain 24 hrs a day. If you have been to a hospital, you may have seen the pain chart showing the characteristics of the 10 levels of pain. God answered my prayer last year. :-) Andy You must be a happy man to believe that all the bad happens for a reason and the good is an answer from a higher power to your and others prayer. Good for you. Other people think otherwise and most of them are good and decent people. Have a nice day. Lou Yes I am happy. What makes you think I do not think there aren't other good and decent people? Andy |
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On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 11:46:53 AM UTC+2, Andy wrote:
On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:36:10 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 9:39:21 AM UTC+2, Andy wrote: On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:09:47 AM UTC-5, Ralph Barone wrote: Andy wrote: It grieves me about all the violence occurring as the result of many police activities resulting in the deaths of people in the U.S. Killing of innocent people by police is evil. Great though they may be, God actively restrains the test and temptations that come our way so that we will not experience anything greater than we can bear. (see 1 Corinthians 10:13) Fatal car and airplane accidents bring awful devastation, but statistically these are rare. On January 15, 2009, what should have brought certain death to passengers aboard Flight 1549, and catastrophe to Manhattan, turned into what secular reporters labeled a "miracle". The pilot, Chesley Sullenbeger, safely landed a crippled plane in New York's Hudson river, with no serious injuries. While chunks of ice and busy ferries filled most of the river, the place where the plane came down remained clear of both ice and boats. It landed without breaking apart. Ferryboat captains rescued all 155 people from the frigid river within minutes. The New York Times suggested "more than luck" brought brought the plane down mere minutes from experts trained in water rescues. Passengers who said they hadn't believed in God nevertheless prayed to him on the plane, then publicly thanked him for sparing their lives. I tell this story to raise a question. Is it not likely that a kind and all powerful God routinely prevents terrible tragedies in ways that we do not see and therefore do not credit as miracles? While the miracle of Flight 1549 appears to be the exception, not the rule, we cannot know about the most of the equally miraculous interventions of God that may have invisibly prevented other tragedies. Perhaps one day we'll hear those stories and marvel at how God intervened when we imagined him uninvolved in our world. I ask that you pray that people will realize that their Creator loves them. Thanks, Andy My thoughts on the topic are closer to Andy Partridge’s than they are to yours. https://youtu.be/p554R-Jq43A Well Ralph, you are entitled to your beliefs. The video offers no hope. It's a eat drink and be merry, and then we die. That's quite sad. It is interesting that you are the only one to remark about my post. That in itself says volumes. I on the other hand have hope. I know that life on Earth is not all there is. That is in spite that for over 30 years, I HAD level 9 neck pain 24 hrs a day. If you have been to a hospital, you may have seen the pain chart showing the characteristics of the 10 levels of pain. God answered my prayer last year. :-) Andy You must be a happy man to believe that all the bad happens for a reason and the good is an answer from a higher power to your and others prayer. Good for you. Other people think otherwise and most of them are good and decent people. Have a nice day. Lou Yes I am happy. What makes you think I do not think there aren't other good and decent people? Andy I didn't. Lou |
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On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 2:46:53 AM UTC-7, Andy wrote:
On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:36:10 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 9:39:21 AM UTC+2, Andy wrote: On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:09:47 AM UTC-5, Ralph Barone wrote: Andy wrote: It grieves me about all the violence occurring as the result of many police activities resulting in the deaths of people in the U.S. Killing of innocent people by police is evil. Great though they may be, God actively restrains the test and temptations that come our way so that we will not experience anything greater than we can bear. (see 1 Corinthians 10:13) Fatal car and airplane accidents bring awful devastation, but statistically these are rare. On January 15, 2009, what should have brought certain death to passengers aboard Flight 1549, and catastrophe to Manhattan, turned into what secular reporters labeled a "miracle". The pilot, Chesley Sullenbeger, safely landed a crippled plane in New York's Hudson river, with no serious injuries. While chunks of ice and busy ferries filled most of the river, the place where the plane came down remained clear of both ice and boats. It landed without breaking apart. Ferryboat captains rescued all 155 people from the frigid river within minutes. The New York Times suggested "more than luck" brought brought the plane down mere minutes from experts trained in water rescues. Passengers who said they hadn't believed in God nevertheless prayed to him on the plane, then publicly thanked him for sparing their lives. I tell this story to raise a question. Is it not likely that a kind and all powerful God routinely prevents terrible tragedies in ways that we do not see and therefore do not credit as miracles? While the miracle of Flight 1549 appears to be the exception, not the rule, we cannot know about the most of the equally miraculous interventions of God that may have invisibly prevented other tragedies. Perhaps one day we'll hear those stories and marvel at how God intervened when we imagined him uninvolved in our world. I ask that you pray that people will realize that their Creator loves them. Thanks, Andy My thoughts on the topic are closer to Andy Partridge’s than they are to yours. https://youtu.be/p554R-Jq43A Well Ralph, you are entitled to your beliefs. The video offers no hope. It's a eat drink and be merry, and then we die. That's quite sad. It is interesting that you are the only one to remark about my post. That in itself says volumes. I on the other hand have hope. I know that life on Earth is not all there is. That is in spite that for over 30 years, I HAD level 9 neck pain 24 hrs a day. If you have been to a hospital, you may have seen the pain chart showing the characteristics of the 10 levels of pain. God answered my prayer last year. :-) Andy You must be a happy man to believe that all the bad happens for a reason and the good is an answer from a higher power to your and others prayer. Good for you. Other people think otherwise and most of them are good and decent people. Have a nice day. Lou Yes I am happy. What makes you think I do not think there aren't other good and decent people? Andy I do not believe that God put me on this Earth to spend all of my time worshiping him. It is my duty to follow the teachings of Jesus and not the Old Testament. |
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On 6/3/2020 2:39 AM, Andy wrote:
On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:09:47 AM UTC-5, Ralph Barone wrote: Andy wrote: It grieves me about all the violence occurring as the result of many police activities resulting in the deaths of people in the U.S. Killing of innocent people by police is evil. Great though they may be, God actively restrains the test and temptations that come our way so that we will not experience anything greater than we can bear. (see 1 Corinthians 10:13) Fatal car and airplane accidents bring awful devastation, but statistically these are rare. On January 15, 2009, what should have brought certain death to passengers aboard Flight 1549, and catastrophe to Manhattan, turned into what secular reporters labeled a "miracle". The pilot, Chesley Sullenbeger, safely landed a crippled plane in New York's Hudson river, with no serious injuries. While chunks of ice and busy ferries filled most of the river, the place where the plane came down remained clear of both ice and boats. It landed without breaking apart. Ferryboat captains rescued all 155 people from the frigid river within minutes. The New York Times suggested "more than luck" brought brought the plane down mere minutes from experts trained in water rescues. Passengers who said they hadn't believed in God nevertheless prayed to him on the plane, then publicly thanked him for sparing their lives. I tell this story to raise a question. Is it not likely that a kind and all powerful God routinely prevents terrible tragedies in ways that we do not see and therefore do not credit as miracles? While the miracle of Flight 1549 appears to be the exception, not the rule, we cannot know about the most of the equally miraculous interventions of God that may have invisibly prevented other tragedies. Perhaps one day we'll hear those stories and marvel at how God intervened when we imagined him uninvolved in our world. I ask that you pray that people will realize that their Creator loves them. Thanks, Andy My thoughts on the topic are closer to Andy Partridge’s than they are to yours. https://youtu.be/p554R-Jq43A Well Ralph, you are entitled to your beliefs. The video offers no hope. It's a eat drink and be merry, and then we die. That's quite sad. It is interesting that you are the only one to remark about my post. That in itself says volumes. I on the other hand have hope. I know that life on Earth is not all there is. That is in spite that for over 30 years, I HAD level 9 neck pain 24 hrs a day. If you have been to a hospital, you may have seen the pain chart showing the characteristics of the 10 levels of pain. God answered my prayer last year. :-) Andy "eat drink and be merry, and then we die" Or more commonly work, suffer and die for most of us. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Andy wrote:
On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 12:09:47 AM UTC-5, Ralph Barone wrote: Andy wrote: It grieves me about all the violence occurring as the result of many police activities resulting in the deaths of people in the U.S. Killing of innocent people by police is evil. Great though they may be, God actively restrains the test and temptations that come our way so that we will not experience anything greater than we can bear. (see 1 Corinthians 10:13) Fatal car and airplane accidents bring awful devastation, but statistically these are rare. On January 15, 2009, what should have brought certain death to passengers aboard Flight 1549, and catastrophe to Manhattan, turned into what secular reporters labeled a "miracle". The pilot, Chesley Sullenbeger, safely landed a crippled plane in New York's Hudson river, with no serious injuries. While chunks of ice and busy ferries filled most of the river, the place where the plane came down remained clear of both ice and boats. It landed without breaking apart. Ferryboat captains rescued all 155 people from the frigid river within minutes. The New York Times suggested "more than luck" brought brought the plane down mere minutes from experts trained in water rescues. Passengers who said they hadn't believed in God nevertheless prayed to him on the plane, then publicly thanked him for sparing their lives. I tell this story to raise a question. Is it not likely that a kind and all powerful God routinely prevents terrible tragedies in ways that we do not see and therefore do not credit as miracles? While the miracle of Flight 1549 appears to be the exception, not the rule, we cannot know about the most of the equally miraculous interventions of God that may have invisibly prevented other tragedies. Perhaps one day we'll hear those stories and marvel at how God intervened when we imagined him uninvolved in our world. I ask that you pray that people will realize that their Creator loves them. Thanks, Andy My thoughts on the topic are closer to Andy Partridge’s than they are to yours. https://youtu.be/p554R-Jq43A Well Ralph, you are entitled to your beliefs. The video offers no hope. It's a eat drink and be merry, and then we die. That's quite sad. It is interesting that you are the only one to remark about my post. That in itself says volumes. I on the other hand have hope. I know that life on Earth is not all there is. That is in spite that for over 30 years, I HAD level 9 neck pain 24 hrs a day. If you have been to a hospital, you may have seen the pain chart showing the characteristics of the 10 levels of pain. God answered my prayer last year. :-) Andy And you are entitled to your beliefs as well. My personal hypothesis is that religion evolved to provide a shortcut to ethical behaviour in society (follow these rules on how people must be treated or an invisible man in the sky will smite you). If you can independently arrive at reasons to be ethical and treat people well, then you don’t need religion. I am glad that your neck pain is gone, although, as with Job, I do wonder why a kind and just God would be so unkind to his chosen ones. PS: Hope can be found in the absence of a supreme being. You just need to take matters into your own hands a bit more. |
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