"Disabled" Guy - "pepper sprayed" at 2012

On 31/07/2012 10:47, GB wrote:
On 31/07/2012 10:17, thirty-six wrote:
On Jul 31, 10:08 am, GB wrote:
On 31/07/2012 09:46, thirty-six wrote:









On Jul 31, 9:38 am, GB wrote:
On 30/07/2012 23:59, thirty-six wrote:

On Jul 30, 10:38 pm, "Zapp Brannigan" wrote:
"thirty-six" wrote in message

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I didn't see a relevant insignia, the protest of arrest is
excusable
if the constable refused to show his warrant.

Utter dribble. There is no requirement for a constable to
produce a warrant
card before making an arrest.

It's a reasonable request in the situation.

You'll clutch at any straw to defend these yobs, evidently.

I don't believe the constable for the railway was acting with any
authority on the highway. His fancy-dress means eff-all to me,
particularly as he was identifiable as BTP..

Why don't you believe that? I posted evidence that he did have
authority. But you are so prejudiced that you don't care and just keep
posting the same rubbish.

There was no emergency, no risk to life or limb, except perhaps in a
warped mind.

Well, I suggest that you re-read the WP extract again and again until
you have understood it. Perhaps you can get someone to explain it to
you?

I suggest you go and boil your nuts.

Ah, so you agree I'm right then. First class!

You do realise you are arguing with a complete idiot don't you?

This **** is the full Dundee.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 31/07/2012 09:56, NM wrote:
On Jul 30, 10:38 pm, "Zapp Brannigan" wrote:
"thirty-six" wrote in message

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I didn't see a relevant insignia, the protest of arrest is excusable
if the constable refused to show his warrant.

Utter dribble. There is no requirement for a constable to produce a warrant
card before making an arrest.

You'll clutch at any straw to defend these yobs, evidently.

But the yobs were in uniform, you grasp at any passing straw to defend
them, the crowd were obviously hostile if the cop wasn't bent on being
a bully he could have handled things in a different way, sadly modern
policing is orientated towards confrontation. The wrong type or
recruit finds the job attractive.

The policeman was trying to arrest someone. The crowd were obstructing
a police officer in the course of his duty.

Section 89 of the Police Act 1996.

Section 89(1) makes it an offence to assault a constable in the
execution of his duty.
Section 89(2) makes it an offence to resist or wilfully obstruct a
constable in the execution of his duty.

I hope they arrested the ****ing lot of them.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 31/07/2012 01:47, Phil W Lee wrote:
GB considered Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:26:22
+0100 the perfect time to write:


Obstructing the police is.

What if they are, as in this case, being over zealous or do you
consider everything the uniformed police do is perfect.

All I have seen is that single video. There is no evidence there that
the police were being over-zealous. If you have other evidence, what is it?

The statement made by the police themselves, which cited an act that
has already been held not to apply to CM and claimed powers that the
police do not posess.

The Public Order Act applies to everyone you ****wit.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 31/07/2012 09:45, Judith wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:47:23 +0100, Phil W Lee wrote:

GB considered Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:26:22
+0100 the perfect time to write:


Obstructing the police is.

What if they are, as in this case, being over zealous or do you
consider everything the uniformed police do is perfect.

All I have seen is that single video. There is no evidence there that
the police were being over-zealous. If you have other evidence, what is it?

The statement made by the police themselves, which cited an act that
has already been held not to apply to CM and claimed powers that the
police do not posess.



You talk absolute ********.

The Law Lords did not decide that the act as a whole did not apply to Critical
Mass; feel free to highlight the part of the judgment which shows otherwise.

They decided that as it was a customary procession , then there was no need to
inform the police and seek permission as required by section 11 alone.

No more - no less.

Just because you have read this ****e on the Critical Mass web-site does not
make it true.


I thought that you were a qualified Queen's Counsel - are you now telling us
that you aren't?


I thought he was a barrister. Turns out he had a part time job in
Starbucks and is only a barista.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 31/07/2012 03:59, Phil W Lee wrote:
"Zapp Brannigan" considered Mon, 30 Jul 2012
22:35:36 +0100 the perfect time to write:


"GB" wrote in message
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What I saw in the video was 3 or possibly 4 policemen/women, surrounded by
a crowd, some of whom were hostile. The police were trying to arrest a
woman who was struggling violently, but they were not using undue force on
her. Then at around 20 seconds in, someone from outside the camera frame
launched a punch at the policeman, and he punched back again. Then the big
bearded guy attacked the policeman from behind, and someone else from the
crowd joined in.

Ditto - a disgraceful scene of mob obstruction and assault upon a lone
officer. If he is making an unlawful arrest in front of a dozen
cameraphones then justice can be obtained later through the proper channels.

Just like in this case, you mean?
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HECMVdl-9SQ

The conduct of some of those people was downright criminal, and represents
cyclists as a violent gang. Shame on them.

Yeah, just like the vicious newspaper salesmen.
What you see there is an attempt at the same thing.

In breaking news, 136,261 Police officers in the UK spent their
day/night maintaining order, protecting the public, arresting criminals
- sometimes risking their lives to do so.



--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:

I thought he was a barrister. Turns out he had a part time job in
Starbucks and is only a barista.

No, being a barista takes talent and, for a good one, personality. Phil
W "Perjury" Lee has neither.

On 31/07/2012 03:54, Phil W Lee wrote:
Barb Dwyer considered Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:03:42 +0000
(UTC) the perfect time to write:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 02:56:59 -0700, NM drooled

On Jul 30, 10:46 am, Judith wrote:
I wonder what his disability is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfftgb4KOlE

27 seconds in

It is interesting how he jumps off his "trike" and then assaults the
police officer.

I reckon it is Doug - it does look like him and it looks like an
electric trike he has got there.

I wonder if anyone will draw this particular footage - and perhaps even
a name - to the attention of the Met?

I'm with the disabled guy, he lost his rag at the policeman being a
bully and reacted, some of these guys are out and out thugs in uniform.

The only thing wrong with that video is that whoever hit the copper
didn't hit him hard or fast enough. Some of these *******s really do need
teaching a lesson.

+1

And "I was only following orders" isn't a valid defence.


So what will you two ****wits do in the future if you are mugged & your
push bike is stolen?

No doubt you will insist those '******* thugs' help you out.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 30/07/2012 22:39, Zapp Brannigan wrote:

"James Allen" wrote in message
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"Tired" wrote in message ...


she should get some recognition there standing up to an angry mob
like that, without the protection of a stab vest or truncheon)

Looks to me like she's holding an ASP at one point?

This video makes me feel quite confused actually, on the one hand I
often find myself looking at videos of the police in situations like
this and thinking they "are" just violent thugs who get off on the
power they have, but OTOH I can't help thinking that these cyclists,
especially the so-called disabled guy and the **** in the green
t-shirt who joined him on the bonnet deserved a good beating.

+1
+ 2

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 31/07/2012 03:53, Phil W Lee wrote:
"James Allen" considered Mon, 30 Jul 2012
20:21:47 +0100 the perfect time to write:



"Tired" wrote in message ...


she should get some recognition there standing up to an angry mob like
that, without the protection of a stab vest or truncheon)

Looks to me like she's holding an ASP at one point?

This video makes me feel quite confused actually, on the one hand I often
find myself looking at videos of the police in situations like this and
thinking they "are" just violent thugs who get off on the power they have,
but OTOH I can't help thinking that these cyclists, especially the so-called
disabled guy and the **** in the green t-shirt who joined him on the bonnet
deserved a good beating.

Who will be left to complain when they come for you?

Why would they come for me? I'm a law abiding citizen.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On Jul 31, 9:36*pm, "Zapp Brannigan" wrote:
"NM" wrote in message

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On Jul 30, 10:38 pm, "Zapp Brannigan" wrote:
"thirty-six" wrote in message

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I didn't see a relevant insignia, the protest of arrest is excusable
if the constable refused to show his warrant.

Utter dribble. *There is no requirement for a constable to produce a
warrant
card before making an arrest.

You'll clutch at any straw to defend these yobs, evidently.

But the yobs were in uniform, you grasp at any passing straw to defend
them, the crowd were obviously hostile if the cop wasn't bent on being
a bully he could have handled things in a different way, sadly modern
policing is orientated towards confrontation. The wrong type or
recruit finds the job attractive.

Another cyclist who's bent upon associating himself with a mean-spirited
attempt to sabotage the Olympic opening and cause a security crisis. * You
lot are like lemmings, on or off the road.

So you think the matter was handled well do you?