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On Jul 31, 7:02*pm, Dave - Cyclists VOR
wrote: "A guard of honour was formed at the funeral today of a police officer who was shot dead as he tried to stop a gunman. Pc Ian Dibell, 41, was killed near his home in Clacton, Essex, when he was off duty on July 9. It is thought he was going to the aid of Trevor Marshall, 48, who was injured in the attack". http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-honour-usher-... -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their lives, certainly on a regular basis." They cycling part is where...... |
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On 31/07/2012 20:16, NM wrote:
On Jul 31, 7:02 pm, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote: "A guard of honour was formed at the funeral today of a police officer who was shot dead as he tried to stop a gunman. Pc Ian Dibell, 41, was killed near his home in Clacton, Essex, when he was off duty on July 9. It is thought he was going to the aid of Trevor Marshall, 48, who was injured in the attack". http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-honour-usher-... -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their lives, certainly on a regular basis." They cycling part is where...... He no doubt rode a push bike as a child. "PC Ian Dibell died while knowingly walking towards danger, as police officers are called upon to do on behalf of the public they serve. The courage he showed in stepping up to do his duty, without thought for his own safety, sums up what it means to be a police officer." Mindless thug was he? -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their lives, certainly on a regular basis." |
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On Jul 31, 8:34*pm, Dave - Cyclists VOR
wrote: On 31/07/2012 20:16, NM wrote: On Jul 31, 7:02 pm, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote: "A guard of honour was formed at the funeral today of a police officer who was shot dead as he tried to stop a gunman. Pc Ian Dibell, 41, was killed near his home in Clacton, Essex, when he was off duty on July 9. It is thought he was going to the aid of Trevor Marshall, 48, who was injured in the attack". http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-honour-usher-.... -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their lives, certainly on a regular basis." They cycling part is where...... He no doubt rode a push bike as a child. "PC Ian Dibell died while knowingly walking towards danger, as police officers are called upon to do on behalf of the public they serve. The courage he showed in stepping up to do his duty, without thought for his own safety, sums up what it means to be a police officer." Mindless thug was he? I and my wife have been assaulted by mindless thugs belonging to HM Customs and Excise (I realise they are called something else now) without necessity, I was 59 years old at the time and my wife was 55 we are both disabled, hardly threats. I was banged up against the wall and kneed in the ******** by a police inspector in Plymouth police station when I was arrested for something I had no part in, subsequently released with no charge, mind you I was only about 19 at the time and a cheeky young sod so I can see why he was riled, though that does not excuse his actions. I was slapped about by a traffic cop on the roadside in North London, crime speeding, not reported, no charges brought. I was punched in the mouth by a cop who had been summonsed by radio to bring a breathaliser, he got out of his car walked up and without warning punched me, I had never seen or spoken to him before, I was the designated driver thus no problem with the breathalyser, my then girlfriend got herself arrested because she took exception to the cop hitting me, in the subsequent court hearing it transpired under questioning he had previous complaints for assault. Driving home from my Parents (200 mile drive) with GF was stopped 50 miles from home by an unmarked police car, the driver wore an inspectors uniform, he was complaining about some traffic infraction I had made, only he was so drunk he was barely coherent and had difficulty standing, after a while of listening to his ranting the GF and I just got back in the car and drove off. Reported it to local police, they would look into it, never heard anything. Bunged two detectives in North London to drop charges, later was investigated by A10 who decided no bribery had taken place. I could go on if I trawled my memory, living in South London as a youth had it's perils and I'm not claiming to be an innocent but you will not be surprised that I treat them as all the same, just going on my own experience. On top of that I was an international truck driver for many years, I have suffered extortion from the police on many occasions and have experienced violence from them or border guards in several countries, I have seen them escort young girls away for violation on more than one border when they have found contraband, traveling the middle east and eastern Europe in the sixties and seventies was raw. Is it any wonder that I hate them. |
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:29:54 -0700 (PDT), NM wrote:
snip Is it any wonder that I hate them. Isn't it odd how some people have all the bad luck - it must be pure chance. I have never experienced any of the problems you have experienced and described above. Hang on - could it be more than chance? |
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On Jul 31, 9:46*pm, Judith wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:29:54 -0700 (PDT), NM wrote: snip Is it any wonder that I hate them. Isn't it odd how some people have all the bad luck - it must be pure chance. I have never experienced any of the problems you have experienced and described above. Probably because you lead a boring life. Hang on - could it be more than chance? Of course it is, I was a stroppy flash young git until I grew up a bit thus got a lot of police attention as a youth, riding around the local country town in my 3.8 jag mk 2 when I was 18 didn't endear me to them for example. Later in life my job involved me going to places and experiencing things most people never do in their lifetimes thus I experienced and witnessed a lot of abuse. I dislike authourity at the best of times however I tolerate the rules and follow them regardless of how irritating I find them. What I really dislike and occasionally react to is authourity that is abused and exceeded, I suppose it shows in my dealings with them however my attitude, however stroppy, can have nothing to do with the unprovoked attacks, some by police I have never seen before. |
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On 31/07/2012 21:29, NM wrote:
On Jul 31, 8:34 pm, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote: On 31/07/2012 20:16, NM wrote: On Jul 31, 7:02 pm, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote: "A guard of honour was formed at the funeral today of a police officer who was shot dead as he tried to stop a gunman. Pc Ian Dibell, 41, was killed near his home in Clacton, Essex, when he was off duty on July 9. It is thought he was going to the aid of Trevor Marshall, 48, who was injured in the attack". http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-honour-usher-... -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their lives, certainly on a regular basis." They cycling part is where...... He no doubt rode a push bike as a child. "PC Ian Dibell died while knowingly walking towards danger, as police officers are called upon to do on behalf of the public they serve. The courage he showed in stepping up to do his duty, without thought for his own safety, sums up what it means to be a police officer." Mindless thug was he? I and my wife have been assaulted by mindless thugs belonging to HM Customs and Excise (I realise they are called something else now) without necessity, I was 59 years old at the time and my wife was 55 we are both disabled, hardly threats. I was banged up against the wall and kneed in the ******** by a police inspector in Plymouth police station when I was arrested for something I had no part in, subsequently released with no charge, mind you I was only about 19 at the time and a cheeky young sod so I can see why he was riled, though that does not excuse his actions. I was slapped about by a traffic cop on the roadside in North London, crime speeding, not reported, no charges brought. I was punched in the mouth by a cop who had been summonsed by radio to bring a breathaliser, he got out of his car walked up and without warning punched me, I had never seen or spoken to him before, I was the designated driver thus no problem with the breathalyser, my then girlfriend got herself arrested because she took exception to the cop hitting me, in the subsequent court hearing it transpired under questioning he had previous complaints for assault. Driving home from my Parents (200 mile drive) with GF was stopped 50 miles from home by an unmarked police car, the driver wore an inspectors uniform, he was complaining about some traffic infraction I had made, only he was so drunk he was barely coherent and had difficulty standing, after a while of listening to his ranting the GF and I just got back in the car and drove off. Reported it to local police, they would look into it, never heard anything. Bunged two detectives in North London to drop charges, later was investigated by A10 who decided no bribery had taken place. I could go on if I trawled my memory, living in South London as a youth had it's perils and I'm not claiming to be an innocent but you will not be surprised that I treat them as all the same, just going on my own experience. On top of that I was an international truck driver for many years, I have suffered extortion from the police on many occasions and have experienced violence from them or border guards in several countries, I have seen them escort young girls away for violation on more than one border when they have found contraband, traveling the middle east and eastern Europe in the sixties and seventies was raw. Is it any wonder that I hate them. I can only assume it's to do with your bad attitude. I too have been stopped by the police on a few occasions. I've been polite & reasonable and so have they. My son in law is a skipper with Kent police, a nicer chap you couldn't wish to meet. He and his colleagues put up with an unbelievable amount of **** & abuse from scrotes like you and maintain their temper - although I don't know how. During the London riots, my daughter - a paramedic - was on duty every night. Her first job, along with a crew mate - both 5'6" size 10's - was to attend a policeman who had been hit by a deliberately thrown paving slab. They got him on a board & dragged him out while being pelted with bricks & bottles. It broke his pelvis. Poor ******* has a wife, kids, mortgage & will never walk properly again. Just because he was doing his job. -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their lives, certainly on a regular basis." |
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On Aug 1, 9:09*am, Dave - Cyclists VOR
wrote: On 31/07/2012 21:29, NM wrote: On Jul 31, 8:34 pm, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote: On 31/07/2012 20:16, NM wrote: On Jul 31, 7:02 pm, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote: "A guard of honour was formed at the funeral today of a police officer who was shot dead as he tried to stop a gunman. Pc Ian Dibell, 41, was killed near his home in Clacton, Essex, when he was off duty on July 9. It is thought he was going to the aid of Trevor Marshall, 48, who was injured in the attack". http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-honour-usher-.... -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their lives, certainly on a regular basis." They cycling part is where...... He no doubt rode a push bike as a child. "PC Ian Dibell died while knowingly walking towards danger, as police officers are called upon to do on behalf of the public they serve. The courage he showed in stepping up to do his duty, without thought for his own safety, sums up what it means to be a police officer." Mindless thug was he? I and my wife have been assaulted by mindless thugs belonging to HM Customs and Excise (I realise they are called something else now) without necessity, I was 59 years old at the time and my wife was 55 we are both disabled, hardly threats. I was banged up against the wall and kneed in the ******** by a police inspector in Plymouth police station when I was arrested for something I had no part in, subsequently released with no charge, mind you I was only about 19 at the time and a cheeky young sod so I can see why he was riled, though that does not excuse his actions. I was slapped about by a traffic cop on the roadside in North London, crime speeding, not reported, no charges brought. I was punched in the mouth by a cop who had been summonsed by radio to bring a breathaliser, he got out of his car walked up and without warning punched me, I had never seen or spoken to him before, I was the designated driver thus no problem with the breathalyser, my then girlfriend got herself arrested because she took exception to the cop hitting me, in the subsequent court hearing it transpired under questioning he had previous complaints for assault. Driving home from my Parents (200 mile drive) with GF was stopped 50 miles from home by an unmarked police car, the driver wore an inspectors uniform, he was complaining about some traffic infraction I had made, only he was so drunk he was barely coherent and had difficulty standing, after a while of listening to his ranting the GF and I just got back in the car and drove off. Reported it to local police, they would look into it, never heard anything. Bunged two detectives in North London to drop charges, later was investigated by A10 who decided no bribery had taken place. I could go *on if I trawled my memory, living in South London as a youth had it's perils and I'm not claiming to be an innocent but you will not be surprised that I treat them as all the same, just going on my own experience. On top of that I was an international truck driver for many years, I have suffered extortion from the police on many occasions and have experienced violence from them or border guards in several countries, I have seen them *escort young girls away for violation on more than one border when they have found contraband, traveling the middle east and eastern Europe in the sixties and seventies was raw. Is it any wonder that I hate them. I can only assume it's to do with your bad attitude. Some certainly was in my youth, but if a youngster gives a bit of lip is that an excuse to assault him? I too have been stopped by the police on a few occasions. *I've been polite & reasonable and so have they. Difficult to be polite when the first encounter is a flying fist, no words having been spoken. Or on another occasion, following in the traffic the same speed as everyone else, flagged down, door pulled open, first words ``"Get out of the car ****". My son in law is a skipper with Kent police, a nicer chap you couldn't wish to meet. *He and his colleagues put up with an unbelievable amount of **** & abuse from scrotes like you and maintain their temper - although I don't know how. Now you are being abusive yourself, no surprise there then. I learned never to hurl abuse at cops at an early age or throw anything else at them for that matter, if you do you are likely to get assaulted. During the London riots, my daughter - a paramedic - was on duty every night. *Her first job, along with a crew mate - both 5'6" size 10's - was to attend a policeman who had been hit by a deliberately thrown paving slab. I have never been even close to a riot, should one happen in my vicinity I will go in the other direction. I have however been in the middle of an armed dispute (Turkish action against Kurds) been shot at more than one time (Iraq) and shelled (Basra) held at gunpoint (Italy). at each place I was just doing my job, had I been injured I knew there would be no good bleating about it, the risks came with the territory as it does for those who want to be policemen and paramedics. |
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"Dave - Cyclists VOR" wrote in message ... On 31/07/2012 20:16, NM wrote: On Jul 31, 7:02 pm, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote: "A guard of honour was formed at the funeral today of a police officer who was shot dead as he tried to stop a gunman. Pc Ian Dibell, 41, was killed near his home in Clacton, Essex, when he was off duty on July 9. It is thought he was going to the aid of Trevor Marshall, 48, who was injured in the attack". http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-honour-usher-... -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their lives, certainly on a regular basis." They cycling part is where...... He no doubt rode a push bike as a child. "PC Ian Dibell died while knowingly walking towards danger, as police officers are called upon to do on behalf of the public they serve. The courage he showed in stepping up to do his duty, without thought for his own safety, sums up what it means to be a police officer." Mindless thug was he? Did you not read the previous article? Now answer the question, what has this to do with cycling? |
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 00:23:12 -0700 (PDT), NM wrote:
snip I dislike authourity at the best of times however I tolerate the rules and follow them regardless of how irritating I find them. What I really dislike and occasionally react to is authourity that is abused and exceeded, I suppose it shows in my dealings with them however my attitude, however stroppy, can have nothing to do with the unprovoked attacks, some by police I have never seen before. There were clear plans for CM to disrupt the opening ceremony in some way. You do not get 5 times the normal participants just by chance. Here is just a sample of comments made in various groups in the week before the opening ceremony: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This month's Critical Mass will be on the same night as the Olympic opening ceremony, so its going to be a good one. I wonder if anybody out there is considering a critical mass style demo to block one of these routes (apart from the games lane) or even all of them on a rotating day to day basis. I can't be the only person out there that is bewildered by the games claim of being the greenest/socially responsible etc etc. I would participate in a mass protest. Lets violate the Olympic lanes Lets all just ignore them - they can't prosecute that number of people ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- makes you wonder if the police just happened to be fully aware and well prepared. Anyone there was asking for trouble - and some got it. have you seen the "disabled" guy attacking the police officer. Disabled my arse. |
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On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:00:03 +0100, Judith
wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 00:23:12 -0700 (PDT), NM wrote: snip I dislike authourity at the best of times however I tolerate the rules and follow them regardless of how irritating I find them. What I really dislike and occasionally react to is authourity that is abused and exceeded, I suppose it shows in my dealings with them however my attitude, however stroppy, can have nothing to do with the unprovoked attacks, some by police I have never seen before. There were clear plans for CM to disrupt the opening ceremony in some way. You do not get 5 times the normal participants just by chance. Here is just a sample of comments made in various groups in the week before the opening ceremony: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This month's Critical Mass will be on the same night as the Olympic opening ceremony, so its going to be a good one. So what! No evidence of anything. I wonder if anybody out there is considering a critical mass style demo to block one of these routes (apart from the games lane) or even all of them on a rotating day to day basis. I can't be the only person out there that is bewildered by the games claim of being the greenest/socially responsible etc etc. Clear evidence of a desire to keep the zil lanes *open*. I would participate in a mass protest. So what! No evidence of anything. Lets violate the Olympic lanes Naughty suggestion, but nothing more. Lets all just ignore them - they can't prosecute that number of people How many people have been charged? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- makes you wonder if the police just happened to be fully aware and well prepared. Anyone there was asking for trouble - and some got it. have you seen the "disabled" guy attacking the police officer. Disabled my arse. I'd be interested to know the nature of his disability. |
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