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Team director Serge Parsani was surprised at the news.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...n09/jun09news3
"I'm shocked ... shocked! ... to find that gambling is going on in here." |
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Team director Serge Parsani was surprised at the news.
On Jun 9, 2:13*pm, "Robert Chung"
wrote: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...n09/jun09news3 "I'm shocked ... shocked! ... to find that gambling is going on in here." Shocking indeed. Must be pure coincidence tha the following item appeared yesterday: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...un09/jun08news "Following the positive doping test of its Austrian rider Christian Pfannberger in early May prior to the start of the Giro d'Italia, the Russian team Katusha said it would implement stronger anti-doping regulations in its contractual relationship with its employees, the racers. The policies take the form of an additional chapter to the cyclists' work contracts including a clause which states that riders will have to pay a fine of five times their annual salary in the event of a sanction given for doping offenses." |
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Team director Serge Parsani was surprised at the news.
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On Jun 9, 2:13 pm, "Robert Chung" wrote: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...n09/jun09news3 "I'm shocked ... shocked! ... to find that gambling is going on in here." Shocking indeed. Must be pure coincidence tha the following item appeared yesterday: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...un09/jun08news "Following the positive doping test of its Austrian rider Christian Pfannberger in early May prior to the start of the Giro d'Italia, the Russian team Katusha said it would implement stronger anti-doping regulations in its contractual relationship with its employees, the racers. The policies take the form of an additional chapter to the cyclists' work contracts including a clause which states that riders will have to pay a fine of five times their annual salary in the event of a sanction given for doping offenses." If the UCI was really serious about it, they'd make the directeur sportif sign a clause saying he'd also pay a fine of five times his annual salary if any of his riders tested positive. The UCI isn't really serious. |
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Team director Serge Parsani was surprised at the news.
"Robert Chung" wrote in message
... If the UCI was really serious about it, they'd make the directeur sportif sign a clause saying he'd also pay a fine of five times his annual salary if any of his riders tested positive. The UCI isn't really serious. So you believe that a DS could tell if one of his riders was using illegal drugs? |
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Team director Serge Parsani was surprised at the news.
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:49:27 -0700, "Robert Chung"
wrote: If the UCI was really serious about it, they'd make the directeur sportif sign a clause saying he'd also pay a fine of five times his annual salary if any of his riders tested positive. Yeah, OK, fine. And let's have the head of the controls sign a contract to do the same if their tests don't hold up or are inconsistent. If everyone believed completely in the control process, maybe you can seriously suspect a rider for not signing that clause. Considering the way that they are now looking for secondary and tertiary paths to imposing sanctions, I would need a better trigger than a sanction being imposed before I signed that addendum. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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Team director Serge Parsani was surprised at the news.
On Jun 9, 3:16*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Robert Chung" wrote in message ... If the UCI was really serious about it, they'd make the directeur sportif sign a clause saying he'd also pay a fine of five times his annual salary if any of his riders tested positive. The UCI isn't really serious. So you believe that a DS could tell if one of his riders was using illegal drugs? He should!! It's part of what he gets paid for. He is around these guys riding, training and racing for most of the year. Unfotunately the DS is either involved or ignores it but he is aware of it. |
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Team director Serge Parsani was surprised at the news.
On Jun 9, 5:22*pm, wrote:
If everyone believed completely in the control process, maybe you can seriously suspect a rider for not signing that clause. Considering the way that they are now looking for secondary and tertiary paths to imposing sanctions, I would need a better trigger than a sanction being imposed before I signed that addendum. dumbass, the problem with that concept (riders paying a massive fine for an offense) is the unintended consequence. assuming a rider would pay such a massive fine - it becomes profitable for the team to have riders test positive. |
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Team director Serge Parsani was surprised at the news.
"P. Chisholm" wrote in message
... On Jun 9, 3:16 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "Robert Chung" wrote in message ... If the UCI was really serious about it, they'd make the directeur sportif sign a clause saying he'd also pay a fine of five times his annual salary if any of his riders tested positive. The UCI isn't really serious. So you believe that a DS could tell if one of his riders was using illegal drugs? He should!! It's part of what he gets paid for. He is around these guys riding, training and racing for most of the year. Unfotunately the DS is either involved or ignores it but he is aware of it. That's pretty surprising coming from you Peter. If the most sophisticated chemistry in the world makes mistakes during extremely expensive analysis how could you possibly think that a man (most only moderately educated by the way) whose career depends on athletic performance could tell the difference between an improving athlete and a doping one? |
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Team director Serge Parsani was surprised at the news.
P. Chisholm wrote:
On Jun 9, 3:16 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "Robert Chung" wrote in message If the UCI was really serious about it, they'd make the directeur sportif sign a clause saying he'd also pay a fine of five times his annual salary if any of his riders tested positive. The UCI isn't really serious. So you believe that a DS could tell if one of his riders was using illegal drugs? He should!! It's part of what he gets paid for. He is around these guys riding, training and racing for most of the year. Unfotunately the DS is either involved or ignores it but he is aware of it. Right. As I've said before, the problem with the existing system is that DS's tell their riders that future contracts depend on their current performance wink wink--and then when the riders turn up positive, they're shocked, shocked!, that there was doping going on. Then they fire the rider and replace him with a new rider whose future contract depends on his current performance wink wink. One component of a better system would be to give the DS's an incentive to have clean riders. I don't necessarily think monetary fines are the only way to go--as I've also said, sporting violations should incur sporting penalties (as in other sports). Time penalties on every member of the team plus (moderate) fines on the DS might work. |
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