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Welcome to the Wild West
On Apr 21, 2:35 am, Harry Brogan
hbrogan57_AT_NOSPAM_DOT_YAHOO_DOT_COM wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:25:50 -0700 (PDT), Bob wrote: On Apr 20, 5:49 pm, ComandanteBanana wrote: One of the problems we've got is that everybody is armed and dangerous. Hyperbole must be part of the Troll's Rules of Conduct. If "everybody is armed and dangerous" every day should be one gigantic bloodbath with hundreds of thousands killed or maimed yet that isn't the case. Until this point, the worst I got for cutting someone off was the finger, not a bullet in the chest. The inference to be drawn from this would seem to be that you've recently been shot for cutting someone off in traffic. In that case, best wishes for a speedy recovery- and stop cutting people off. Regards, Bob Hunt It's only relatively recently, here in the U.S., that people have not been able to be "armed" while out and about. I don't recall reading anywhere about the "old west" being a blood bath. __o | Every time I see an adult on a bicycle.... _`\(,_ | I no longer despair for the human race. (_)/ (_) | ---H.G. Wells---- Hide quoted text - Well, it seems to have been pretty wild... I don't think many travellers would have dared ride a horse alone. No safer than riding a bike in traffic today. That's why "circle the wagons" came to be a popular saying. |
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I finally took delivery of official vehicle of the revolution
On Apr 20, 11:30*am, ComandanteBanana
wrote: OK, I finally took delivery of official vehicle of the revolution (the trike), with plenty of space in the basket to carry bananas for the lions. Bring your trike up here to Detroit, Comandante. We usually relegate bicyclists to the morgue. |
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everybody is armed and dangerous
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:27:51 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
wrote: On Apr 21, 12:36*am, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:51:14 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana wrote: Road rage runs rampant on Bay Area highways Say...isnt the Bay Area a hotbed of Liberalism? So why are they so much more violent than everyone else? I'm afraid some pro-gun conservatives have been sneaking in from the red states... Hey, wait a minute, California is kind of a red state. But they got a smart Republican. The political jungle is very complex, I tell you. The urban areas of California ARE Red sectors. They attract leftwingers like flies to garbage. The rest of the state of course, is mostly blue. We here in California, like to think of the Urban areas as reservations where we keep the leftwingers, so they cant do too much harm. Now if we could do something about the leftwingers controlling the government in Sacramento. Aaaanold is hardly a Conservative btw..at best, he is a moderate Democrat who votes Republican. Given that the Bay Area is a hotbed of Liberalism..San Fran being a hotbed of ultra far leftwing extremist fringe kooks, and given that most homicides in Californa are committed by minority members..minorities that historically vote Democrat, its quite obvious that leftwingers are homicidal maniacs. Shrug...which is why I dont live in a major urban area, but simply work there. And legally carry a concealed firearm on my person, daily. Gunner "[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr |
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the revolution will come on three wheels
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:41:28 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
wrote: On Apr 21, 3:12*am, Steve Ball wrote: Tom Keats: In article , (Don Klipstein) writes: * The main offense of cyclists against cars is running red lights while cars that have green lights have expectations of right-of-way. Bull****! *Riders do /not/ suicidally barge into cross traffic. *No rational person does. He didn't say they did. Just that they stop bikes run far more red lights than cars generally do. * Second to that, is cyclists stopping less for stop signs than cars do. Bull****! *Obligatory stopping ain't a patch on yielding and observing whether it's safe to go or not. *Drivers might stop or slow down a little, and then go, without looking at what they're getting into. *We riders know that we can get totally ****ed up by riding into what we're not looking at. I'm both a cyclist and a motorist. I always stop at stop signs and red lights in the car. It's easy. Cyclists have to uncleat, get out of the saddle, put a foot down, and then get the hard-earned momentum back, and tend to stop less often. I know, I ride in a bunch that runs more red lights/stop signs in an hour than I do in the car in a year. That's why I think the revolution will come on three wheels instead of two. I've both bikes and now the new trike, but only the latter allows me to give the right of way to a car while comfortably seated. With the three internal gears, I just shift down to 1st... and there I go. Actually, I consider myself a car! (but not a bully) The big question is now..since you are much lower than before..how is your visibility to other vehicles? Id hope you have a flag on a stick of some sort to attempt to catch the attention of other vehicle operators. A friend of mine builds recombent bikes, and has had some really close calls because of the lower profile and lower visiblity. He now puts a flag on a bit of graphite tent pole when interacting with motor vehicles. The is the reason many of the electric powered chair riders do this as well. If you blend in...you wont be seen. Gunner "[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr |
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Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters andsidewalks
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:29:51 -0500, "Edward Dolan" wrote: But thats the typical arrogance of many bike riders. They simply cannot stand critism for their elitist outlook or their arrogance and utter stupidity. No wonder many die as the result of their actions. Darwin events actually. Pity Gunner, who rides Cannondale, Trek, Paramount, but doesnt try to bully vehicles outweighing him by many tons. Nor do I! But you have a peculiar attitude for someone who rides bicycles. Every cyclist who has ever ridden his bike on the open road has experienced motorists who bully them because they do not want them on the road - period! It is a wonder to me that more cyclists do not track down such motorists and literally murder them! And everyone who has ever drivin a motor vehicle around bike riders has had the bike riders bully them. Aw, poor Runner. So sad to be coward... Those big manly guys on their 30 lb bicycles are such bullies, especially when confronted by wimps in multi-ton masses of steel powered by hundreds of horsepower. Yeah... Its a wonder to me that they simply dont just twitch the wheel a smidge, far more often than they do. What an asshole. Of course we knew that, but the fact that you broadcast it as though you were proud of it. Wow! Just "wow." You are a paranoid nutcase Dedward and a Darwin event waiting to happen. Well, I have seen a friend run off the road. He came within inches of probable death or severe injury. A friend was run over recently. She was a pedestrian. Face it, many people driving cars just do not take much care. I've always taught my kids to be respectful of those without armor, but I also tell them it is better to be alive than right. YMMV. Dan |
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everybody is armed and dangerous
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:51:14 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana wrote: Road rage runs rampant on Bay Area highways Say...isnt the Bay Area a hotbed of Liberalism? Somewhat. So why are they so much more violent than everyone else? I fail to perceive of a single comparative in his statement. Injecting a little editorial comment where it doesn't belong, eh? Dan Gunner "[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr |
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Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters andsidewalks
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:44:39 -0700, (Tom Keats) wrote: In article , (Don Klipstein) writes: The main offense of cyclists against cars is running red lights while cars that have green lights have expectations of right-of-way. Bull****! Riders do /not/ suicidally barge into cross traffic. No rational person does. You are claiming riders are rational people? By definition. If they weren't, they would no longer be riders... Ive nearly wiped out at least 5 such individuals over the last 10 yrs. Yet you failed to follow through... Second to that, is cyclists stopping less for stop signs than cars do. Bull****! Obligatory stopping ain't a patch on yielding and observing whether it's safe to go or not. Drivers might stop or slow down a little, and then go, without looking at what they're getting into. We riders know that we can get totally ****ed up by riding into what we're not looking at. I guess thats why so many get killed or maimed running lights. How many? Third place is cyclists doing less yielding to the vehicle to the right (when both vehicles arrive at the intersection at the same time) at intersections controlled by stop signs or at uncontrolled intersections. 4th place is cyclists getting adventurous at intersections controlled by stop signs, while not all roads entering the intersection are required to stop. See above. Motorists also offend. You can say that again. In my experience, motorists offend cyclists worst by shifting lanes without prior warning via a turn signal. In my experience, motorists offend cyclists worst by signalling a right turn until a cyclist coming up from behind hauls-up on their left side. Then the motorist decides he wants to make a left turn, and changes his turn indicators while the cyclist can't see 'em. That ****es me off to no end. It ****es me off so much, I'd almost like to hunt those drivers down and shoot their nose-tips or kneecaps off with a well-scoped, set-triggered .22-250. Ill remember that the next time a rider blows a stopsign right in front of me, or a red light. I think my insurance will cover a new front clip and windshield. But I'm not a violent person. I don't wanna have to hurt anybody. No right-minded person does. So just stay outa cyclists' hair, and all will be well. Stay out of cyclists hair??????? You have trouble with standard English? How about if everyone, bike riders as well, simply obey the ****ing Vehicle Code? That would be ideal. (Un)common courtesy would be nice as well. As a pedestrian, I usually yield many of my right-of-ways to vehicles, reasoning that any unnecessary delay I cause them is a waste of fuel. As a driver, I usually yield many of my right-of-ways to pedestrians, mainly because I am basically a nice guy. Dan |
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I finally took delivery of official vehicle of the revolution
On Apr 21, 2:23*pm, Cindy Hamilton
wrote: On Apr 20, 11:30*am, ComandanteBanana wrote: OK, I finally took delivery of official vehicle of the revolution (the trike), with plenty of space in the basket to carry bananas for the lions. Bring your trike up here to Detroit, Comandante. *We usually relegate bicyclists to the morgue. No way, I rather go into the Congo jungle or even Iraqi jungle. A bunch a killers in Detroit. They even killed the electric car! |
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the revolution will come on three wheels
On Apr 21, 2:37*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:41:28 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana wrote: On Apr 21, 3:12*am, Steve Ball wrote: Tom Keats: In article , (Don Klipstein) writes: * The main offense of cyclists against cars is running red lights while cars that have green lights have expectations of right-of-way. Bull****! *Riders do /not/ suicidally barge into cross traffic. *No rational person does. He didn't say they did. Just that they stop bikes run far more red lights than cars generally do. * Second to that, is cyclists stopping less for stop signs than cars do. Bull****! *Obligatory stopping ain't a patch on yielding and observing whether it's safe to go or not. *Drivers might stop or slow down a little, and then go, without looking at what they're getting into. *We riders know that we can get totally ****ed up by riding into what we're not looking at. I'm both a cyclist and a motorist. I always stop at stop signs and red lights in the car. It's easy. Cyclists have to uncleat, get out of the saddle, put a foot down, and then get the hard-earned momentum back, and tend to stop less often. I know, I ride in a bunch that runs more red lights/stop signs in an hour than I do in the car in a year. That's why I think the revolution will come on three wheels instead of two. I've both bikes and now the new trike, but only the latter allows me to give the right of way to a car while comfortably seated. With the three internal gears, I just shift down to 1st... and there I go. Actually, I consider myself a car! (but not a bully) The big question is now..since you are much lower than before..how is your visibility to other vehicles? Id hope you have a flag on a stick of some sort to attempt to catch the attention of other vehicle operators. A friend of mine builds recombent bikes, and has had some really close calls because of the lower profile and lower visiblity. He now puts a flag on a bit of graphite tent pole when interacting with motor vehicles. *The is the reason many of the electric powered chair riders do this as well. If you blend in...you wont be seen. Gunner "[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, this is not a recumbent, just semi-recumbent. High enough to see and be seen. It's nicer than I was lead to believe by articles about uprights. Maybe the small difference in the pedals makes the difference. |
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