1st century done

Well I decided to take the day off work and the weather was good and do
my 1st 100 miler. I had gone 60 before and a lots of 50's so this was
just to say I did a century.

Solo ride took 5:22 total elapsed time was 5:42. Had I had a support
staff it would have been easier and I don't feel to bad ride now a
little thirsty. I went into about a 10mph headwind for about 45 miles
out some cross wind in places. Then I turned around and had fun the last
1/2. I managed to average 20mph for the last 50 so I was pleased.

Have done numerous marathons in the past a century is a different
animal. Not nearly the hurting factor but my butt is a bit sore, and I
lost some water. I just takes some mental effort to keep at it for that
long.

Now I see why these fellow dope that want to win the Tour de France. I
guess I better have some pizza and beer.
--
Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Roman Catholic Church

Mark Cleary wrote:
Well I decided to take the day off work and the weather was good and do
my 1st 100 miler. I had gone 60 before and a lots of 50's so this was
just to say I did a century.

Solo ride took 5:22 total elapsed time was 5:42. Had I had a support
staff it would have been easier and I don't feel to bad ride now a
little thirsty. I went into about a 10mph headwind for about 45 miles
out some cross wind in places. Then I turned around and had fun the last
1/2. I managed to average 20mph for the last 50 so I was pleased.

Have done numerous marathons in the past a century is a different
animal. Not nearly the hurting factor but my butt is a bit sore, and I
lost some water. I just takes some mental effort to keep at it for that
long.

Now I see why these fellow dope that want to win the Tour de France. I
guess I better have some pizza and beer.

Congrats. Sub-six is pretty fast for the first time, especially solo.

Mark J.

Congrats. Sub-six is pretty fast for the first time, especially solo.

Mark J.

Even more so when it's windy!

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


"Mark J." wrote in message
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Mark Cleary wrote:
Well I decided to take the day off work and the weather was good and do
my 1st 100 miler. I had gone 60 before and a lots of 50's so this was
just to say I did a century.

Solo ride took 5:22 total elapsed time was 5:42. Had I had a support
staff it would have been easier and I don't feel to bad ride now a little
thirsty. I went into about a 10mph headwind for about 45 miles out some
cross wind in places. Then I turned around and had fun the last 1/2. I
managed to average 20mph for the last 50 so I was pleased.

Have done numerous marathons in the past a century is a different animal.
Not nearly the hurting factor but my butt is a bit sore, and I lost some
water. I just takes some mental effort to keep at it for that long.

Now I see why these fellow dope that want to win the Tour de France. I
guess I better have some pizza and beer.

Congrats. Sub-six is pretty fast for the first time, especially solo.

Mark J.

On 28 May, 18:41, Mark Cleary wrote:
Well I decided to take the day off work and the weather was good and do
my 1st 100 miler. I had gone 60 before and a lots of 50's so this was
just to say I did a century.

Solo ride took 5:22 total elapsed time was 5:42.

Good time, would have expected more like 6 hours for a first run alone
without a proper break.

Had I had a support
staff it would have been easier and I don't feel to bad ride now a
little thirsty.

A trick I learnt is to load up as much fluid as could take in my belly
once Ihad warmed up fully and was at cruising speed. Then just make a
mental check every 1/4hour "would more fluid benefit?" taking a
mouthful if so.

I went into about a 10mph headwind for about 45 miles
out some cross wind in places. Then I turned around and had fun the last
1/2. I managed to average 20mph for the last 50 so I was pleased.

Have done numerous marathons in the past a century is a different
animal. Not nearly the hurting factor but my butt is a bit sore, and I
lost some water. I just takes some mental effort to keep at it for that
long.

It takes a while to get used to long distance, of which I mean over
60miles. Any physical problems will make the mental effort more
difficult. Sort out your saddle, re-assess position, possibly a
little lower if you didnt have any frontal knee pain.


Now I see why these fellow dope that want to win the Tour de France. I
guess I better have some pizza and beer.


Hey, if you didn't fall asleep when you got home, you could have gone
further. It'll be that saddle will stop you. Usually though any
problems with a saddle will show up in 60miles that's why I think it
may be just a refinement in position you need.

Actually the butt was not that sore now that I think about it and not a
problem. I just did not take enough liquid. I drank 2 bottles of 23
onces each and then another 32 onces at 75 miles. Not nearly enough and
I should know better. I put away over 120 onces of liquid in 8 hours
after the ride. I probably got away with this because years of distance
running I can go without but this can be dangerous. I carb-loaded and
this increases the water in the body too the day before.

I was not really beat at least to do any sleeping. I ended up not really
napping and staying up 90 minutes later than normal. To do a 100 for
time I think I would rather try a 25 mile loop course I have and do this
4 times. At least I pass by my house each 25 so I could really explore
pressing the pace.

Now the technical aspect of the post. I think I will rotate the tires,
my Vred Tri comps have about 1000 miles on them so the rotate is in order.

thirty-six wrote:
On 28 May, 18:41, Mark Cleary wrote:
Well I decided to take the day off work and the weather was good and do
my 1st 100 miler. I had gone 60 before and a lots of 50's so this was
just to say I did a century.

Solo ride took 5:22 total elapsed time was 5:42.

Good time, would have expected more like 6 hours for a first run alone
without a proper break.

Had I had a support
staff it would have been easier and I don't feel to bad ride now a
little thirsty.

A trick I learnt is to load up as much fluid as could take in my belly
once Ihad warmed up fully and was at cruising speed. Then just make a
mental check every 1/4hour "would more fluid benefit?" taking a
mouthful if so.

I went into about a 10mph headwind for about 45 miles
out some cross wind in places. Then I turned around and had fun the last
1/2. I managed to average 20mph for the last 50 so I was pleased.

Have done numerous marathons in the past a century is a different
animal. Not nearly the hurting factor but my butt is a bit sore, and I
lost some water. I just takes some mental effort to keep at it for that
long.

It takes a while to get used to long distance, of which I mean over
60miles. Any physical problems will make the mental effort more
difficult. Sort out your saddle, re-assess position, possibly a
little lower if you didnt have any frontal knee pain.

Now I see why these fellow dope that want to win the Tour de France. I
guess I better have some pizza and beer.


Hey, if you didn't fall asleep when you got home, you could have gone
further. It'll be that saddle will stop you. Usually though any
problems with a saddle will show up in 60miles that's why I think it
may be just a refinement in position you need.

--
Deacon Mark Cleary
Epiphany Roman Catholic Church

On 5/29/2010 6:04 AM, Mark Cleary wrote:
[...]
Now the technical aspect of the post. I think I will rotate the tires,
my Vred Tri comps have about 1000 miles on them so the rotate is in order.
[...]

Sheldon writes not to do so: http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On 29 May, 12:04, Mark Cleary wrote:
Actually the butt was not that sore now that I think about it and not a
problem. I just did not take enough liquid. I drank 2 bottles of 23
ounces each and then another 32 ounces at 75 miles. Not nearly enough and
I should know better. I put away over 120 ounces of liquid in 8 hours
after the ride. I probably got away with this because years of distance
running I can go without but this can be dangerous. I carb-loaded and
this increases the water in the body too the day before.

I base expected fluid intake at 20oz per hour taking a mouthful or so
every 1/4hr average. So by this reckoning you should have had another
40oz while on the bike. The fact that you took so much water
following could be partially due to the previous days carbo loading.
Even simple carb loading takes 3 days for proper glycogen uptake and
you should ride a little while you are carbo loading for greatest
glycogen uptake. Not hard, just enough to get your muscles warmed
up. Drink at least equal volumes of fluid to solid food. If you dont
drink enough during and after carbo loading your blood will be thick
as your muscles take in water. If you drink enough to pee straw
coloured about 24oz every couple hours during the day then that is
probably enough in the preceding 24hrs. Keep a check on your increase
in body weight in the three days loading and aim to get at least that
the next time.


I was not really beat at least to do any sleeping. I ended up not really
napping and staying up 90 minutes later than normal. To do a 100 for
time I think I would rather try a 25 mile loop course I have and do this
4 times. At least I pass by my house each 25 so I could really explore
pressing the pace.

Seems like your training yourself up to race. Cycling can be
enjoyable without racing. If the speed comes let it happen but don't
beat yourself up chasing speed.

Now the technical aspect of the post. I think I will rotate the tires,
my Vred Tri comps have about 1000 miles on them so the rotate is in order.

If you mean swap them, there is no point to, you also risk damaging
them and putting a stressed possibly cut rear tyre on the front could
really be asking for trouble. Better to have specific front and rear
tyres such as 23 in front and 28mm at the back.

On May 28, 9:21*pm, thirty-six wrote:
On 28 May, 18:41, Mark Cleary wrote:

snip

Hey, if you didn't fall asleep when you got home, you could have gone
further. *It'll be that saddle will stop you. *Usually though any
problems with a saddle will show up in 60miles that's why I think it
may be just a refinement in position you need.

IMO, with saddles and clothing, you just find different problems after
60 miles -- or 160 miles. Some problems are unaviodable unless you
have logged a ton of time in the saddle. I had a pair of old PI
shorts with lap-felled seams that actually wore tracks in my butt by
the end of a double century -- a problem that did not exist below
about 150 miles. I agree though that position issues usually show up
pretty early. -- Jay Beattie.

On Sat, 29 May 2010 08:54:45 -0500, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote:

On 5/29/2010 6:04 AM, Mark Cleary wrote:
[...]
Now the technical aspect of the post. I think I will rotate the tires,
my Vred Tri comps have about 1000 miles on them so the rotate is in order.
[...]

Sheldon writes not to do so: http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html.

I was startled by the concept when he mentioned it. A tire wears out,
I replace it. Why would I want to "rotate"?

As a card-mailing member in good standing of the Society for the
Preservation of English Language and Literature, I'd like to point out
that you can't rotate bike tires -- you *swap* them. Takes three to
make a circle. (I'm also a retired math teacher.)

Which reminds me that yesterday I pulled off the road and rotated my
back wheel by pushing on the spokes, glaring suspiciously at the rim.
(I could see all of the front wheel without spinning it.)

Just went out to the garage: both tires are still hard, so I guess I
didn't pinch a tube either. Also hit the pothole square, so I didn't
get road rash or broken bones. All in all, a lot of very good luck --
can't count hitting a pavement flaw as bad luck.


Joy Beeson
--
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.

On May 29, 8:59*am, thirty-six wrote:
On 29 May, 12:04, Mark Cleary wrote:

Actually the butt was not that sore now that I think about it and not a
problem. I just did not take enough liquid. I drank 2 bottles of 23
ounces each and then another 32 ounces at 75 miles. Not nearly enough and
I should know better. I put away over 120 ounces of liquid in 8 hours
after the ride. I probably got away with this because years of distance
running I can go without but this can be dangerous. I carb-loaded and
this increases the water in the body too the day before.

I base expected fluid intake at 20oz per hour taking a mouthful or so
every 1/4hr average. *So by this reckoning you should have had another
40oz while on the bike. *The fact that you took so much water
following could be partially due to the previous days carbo loading.
Even simple carb loading takes 3 days for proper glycogen uptake and
you should ride a little while you are carbo loading for greatest
glycogen uptake. *Not hard, just enough to get your muscles warmed
up. *Drink at least equal volumes of fluid to solid food. If you dont
drink enough during and after carbo loading your blood will be thick
as your muscles take in water. *If you drink enough to pee straw
coloured about 24oz every couple hours during the day then that is
probably enough in the preceding 24hrs. *Keep a check on your increase
in body weight in the three days loading and aim to get at least that
the next time.



I was not really beat at least to do any sleeping. I ended up not really
napping and staying up 90 minutes later than normal. To do a 100 for
time I think I would rather try a 25 mile loop course I have and do this
4 times. At least I pass by my house each 25 so I could really explore
pressing the pace.

Seems like your training yourself up to race. *Cycling can be
enjoyable without racing. *If the speed comes let it happen but don't
beat yourself up chasing speed.

Now the technical aspect of the post. I think I will rotate the tires,
my Vred Tri comps have about 1000 miles on them so the rotate is in order.

If you mean swap them, there is no point to, you also risk damaging
them and putting a stressed possibly cut rear tyre on the front could
really be asking for trouble. * Better to have specific front and rear
tyres such as 23 in front and 28mm at the back.



Admittedly, my racing days were a long time ago, and the science has
changed, perhaps a lot. But back then we drew a distinction between
'carbo loading' and 'eating a lot of pasta'. Eating pasta will
certainly restore glycogen levels, but I would first do a period of
glycogen depletion, then loading. It was alleged to create a sort of
rebound effect that allowed you to store more glycogen that if you had
not done the prior depletion phase. Your mood would be rather prickly
and your breath tended to smell different (protein metabolism I
imagine) but it wasn't too bad. I think fluids are more critical and
these days you can stir in some stuff that will pass for nourishment,
if not for food. It works. Props to the OP for a great job on the
first hundred.

sa