Mini washer + spin dryer?

Andre Jute wrote, On 6/2/2010 2:17 PM:
On Jun 1, 10:20 pm, wrote:

Does anyone have recommendations for a mini clothes washer and a spin dryer?
I had been handwashing jerseys and cycling shorts in the sink, and wringing
them in a towel to dry. This works well enough, but getting more and more
tiresome. I don't have any other delicates so it's a perfect waste to toss
even 3 days worth of stink into the full size washer.

"Delicates"? Come on, that stuff's just overpriced plastic with an
expensively advertised label. They stink because they're plastic
rather than natural fibres.


Kneading them to wash isn't a problem, but repeating a few more times for a
good rinse is tiresome.

I like the spin dryers they have at the health club. Spin dries swim trunks
in about 10 seconds.

Any recommendations?

You could learn not to perspire, I suppose. The best people don't
smell of sweat (or worse, perfumed sprays to cover up their smell)
because they wear cotton and wool which, amazingly, as was known to
your mom before you were born, don't breed stinks.

AJ

Only ride when it is raining...

--

Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

On Jun 1, 8:37*pm, AMuzi wrote:
MikeWhy wrote:
Does anyone have recommendations for a mini clothes washer and a spin
dryer? I had been handwashing jerseys and cycling shorts in the sink,
and wringing them in a towel to dry. This works well enough, but getting
more and more tiresome. I don't have any other delicates so it's a
perfect waste to toss even 3 days worth of stink into the full size washer.

Kneading them to wash isn't a problem, but repeating a few more times
for a good rinse is tiresome.

I like the spin dryers they have at the health club. Spin dries swim
trunks in about 10 seconds.

Any recommendations?

I don't know anything about your inquiry specifically but,
regarding hand wash/drip dry, I once ended a first date ride
by washing and hanging her shorts next to mine. Results were
worth every bit of those five minutes!

--
Andrew Muzi
* www.yellowjersey.org/
* Open every day since 1 April, 1971

You little scamp.

sa

On Jun 2, 7:38*pm, Paul O wrote:
Andre Jute wrote, On 6/2/2010 2:17 PM:



On Jun 1, 10:20 pm, *wrote:

Does anyone have recommendations for a mini clothes washer and a spin dryer?
I had been handwashing jerseys and cycling shorts in the sink, and wringing
them in a towel to dry. This works well enough, but getting more and more
tiresome. I don't have any other delicates so it's a perfect waste to toss
even 3 days worth of stink into the full size washer.

"Delicates"? Come on, that stuff's just overpriced plastic with an
expensively advertised label. They stink because they're plastic
rather than natural fibres.

Kneading them to wash isn't a problem, but repeating a few more times for a
good rinse is tiresome.

I like the spin dryers they have at the health club. Spin dries swim trunks
in about 10 seconds.

Any recommendations?

You could learn not to perspire, I suppose. The best people don't
smell of sweat (or worse, perfumed sprays to cover up their smell)
because they wear cotton and wool which, amazingly, as was known to
your mom before you were born, don't breed stinks.

AJ

Only ride when it is raining...

Shh! Don't tell 'em. We don't want everyone to emigrate to Ireland. --
AJ

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 16:20:47 -0500, "MikeWhy"
wrote:

Does anyone have recommendations for a mini clothes washer and a spin dryer?

Spin dry works well if you have a large diameter drum. Centrifugal
force causes the water to fly outward, thus drying your clothes. It's
a problem with miniature washers as the diameter isn't really big
enough. You can compensate by spinning faster, but that causes undue
stresses, unbalance problems, and spectacular self destructions.

I was thinking something like the antique washer and wringer would be
a good choice. Wringers remove MUCH more water than a spin cycle. I
used one long ago in a mountain cabin hideout, where water
conservation was a must. Even the wash water was re-used. As I
recall, the synthetics were dry enough to wear after a few passes
through the wringer. The cotton and wool clothes had to get sun
dried.

This one is probably too miniatu
http://www.tias.com/11001/PictPage/3923226970.html

These might be more practical:
http://www.lehmans.com/store/Home_Goods___Laundry___Washing___Lehman_s__Best_Ha nd_Wringer___32823320
http://www.wisementrading.com/washing/wringer.htm
http://www.survivalunlimited.com/clothewringer.htm
Lots more...

There are also some adaptations of common bicycle devices that might
be used. Hang the clothes behind a "wind trainer" and pedal furiously
until dry. You can also make some kind of perforated drum contrivance
that attaches to the rear wheel of the trainer. Maybe remove the rear
tire, attach a rubber belt on the rim, and have it drive a sideways
washing machine drum. Use your imagination instead of your wallet.


--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Jun 1, 9:10*pm, "
wrote:


Parachute cord and clothes pin.

http://www.campingsurvival.com/eqacco.html
probably the small size.

"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 16:20:47 -0500, "MikeWhy"
wrote:

Does anyone have recommendations for a mini clothes washer and a spin
dryer?

Spin dry works well if you have a large diameter drum. Centrifugal
force causes the water to fly outward, thus drying your clothes. It's
a problem with miniature washers as the diameter isn't really big
enough. You can compensate by spinning faster, but that causes undue
stresses, unbalance problems, and spectacular self destructions.

I was thinking something like the antique washer and wringer would be
a good choice. Wringers remove MUCH more water than a spin cycle. I
used one long ago in a mountain cabin hideout, where water
conservation was a must. Even the wash water was re-used. As I
recall, the synthetics were dry enough to wear after a few passes
through the wringer. The cotton and wool clothes had to get sun
dried.

This one is probably too miniatu
http://www.tias.com/11001/PictPage/3923226970.html

These might be more practical:
http://www.lehmans.com/store/Home_Goods___Laundry___Washing___Lehman_s__Best_Ha nd_Wringer___32823320
http://www.wisementrading.com/washing/wringer.htm
http://www.survivalunlimited.com/clothewringer.htm
Lots more...

There are also some adaptations of common bicycle devices that might
be used. Hang the clothes behind a "wind trainer" and pedal furiously
until dry. You can also make some kind of perforated drum contrivance
that attaches to the rear wheel of the trainer. Maybe remove the rear
tire, attach a rubber belt on the rim, and have it drive a sideways
washing machine drum. Use your imagination instead of your wallet.

Well, it is my second childhood, and this time the wallet can pick up where
the imagination falls short. Industrial and institutional quality is OK,
provided they work for the purpose. As I mentioned, I'm enamored of the spin
dryer at the health club. Toss the shorts in, it bucks briefly as it gets
going, and a few moments later, the shorts come out very slightly damp and
very wearable. For the small loads I do, and it's the small loads that are
the problem, damp drying isn't such a huge problem. Rather than a wringer, I
just roll each item one at a time in the towel after my shower, and twist it
up hard and tight. It comes out drier than even the health club spin thing,
but again, that has gotten old and tiresome.

I appreciate the ideas. Maybe gut a child's trailer and install an eccentric
drum. I can do yesterday's laundry as I take today's ride. I'll do fewer
miles, but they'll be quality miles.

(Speaking of which, I bought a mountain bike mail order, never having been
on one. The forking thing weighs 32 lbs straight out of the box, and rides
like it has two flat tires. Oh well... quality miles. But plush. In its
favor, I got to sit up and enjoy the evening sky. It's a slower, possibly
more enjoyable pace. Now, how do I mount a power meter on this thing?)

On Jun 2, 7:23*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
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There are also some adaptations of common bicycle devices that might
be used. *Hang the clothes behind a "wind trainer" and pedal furiously
until dry. *You can also make some kind of perforated drum contrivance
that attaches to the rear wheel of the trainer. *Maybe remove the rear
tire, attach a rubber belt on the rim, and have it drive a sideways
washing machine drum. *Use your imagination instead of your wallet.

--
Jeff Liebermann

Actually, in the movie "Return of the Scorchers" which inspired the
name "Critical Mass" for those rides, a bicycle tourer washes his
clothes in a tupperware container then ties it on top of his load and
it dries as he rides.

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 20:14:15 -0500, "MikeWhy"
wrote:

"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
.. .
These might be more practical:
http://www.lehmans.com/store/Home_Goods___Laundry___Washing___Lehman_s__Best_Ha nd_Wringer___32823320
http://www.wisementrading.com/washing/wringer.htm
http://www.survivalunlimited.com/clothewringer.htm

As I mentioned, I'm enamored of the spin
dryer at the health club.

I've never seen one of those. Health Clubs are for the healthy, and I
don't exactly qualify. I also find it difficult to spend money
renting a modern day torture machine for the sole purpose of
inflicting pain upon myself. Masochism isn't for me. Therefore, I've
never experience the thrill of seeing my clothes in one of those
contrivances.

Toss the shorts in, it bucks briefly as it gets
going, and a few moments later, the shorts come out very slightly damp and
very wearable.

A few minutes? The wringer rollers do the same thing in seconds. In
addition, you get some much needed rotational arm exercise, which is
not available on a lower extremity operated bicycle. Just think of
all the things the exercise machinery can do to you during the few
minutes you don't spend watching your clothes go round and round.

For the small loads I do, and it's the small loads that are
the problem, damp drying isn't such a huge problem. Rather than a wringer, I
just roll each item one at a time in the towel after my shower, and twist it
up hard and tight. It comes out drier than even the health club spin thing,
but again, that has gotten old and tiresome.

Well, there is some exercise value in that, but methinks the wringer
will do the same think in less time and with less effort. You also
don't have to try the towels when you're done. The wringer is also
ready when you are, doesn't require electricity, is ecologically
correct, and lasts forever. It also has other applications, such as
flattening pasta dough.
http://www.kenwoodworld.com/en/Product-Videos/Attachments/Flat-Pasta-Maker-AT970A/
Ummm... don't forget to remove the cutters or you'll have shredded
Spandex.

If I'm really in a hurry to dry my clothes, I use an air compressor
(with oiler disabled and dryer attached). 150 psi to a high flow rate
nozzle and it will blow the water out of anything. It will also blow
holes in most fabric so some care is required. It does take some
time, but it works well enough on small things.

I appreciate the ideas.

Something is wrong. Nobody likes my ideas.

Maybe gut a child's trailer and install an eccentric
drum. I can do yesterday's laundry as I take today's ride. I'll do fewer
miles, but they'll be quality miles.

There are easier ways to get a "quality" ride.
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=VIcBAAAAEBAJ&dq=3614132
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=OAE1AAAAEBAJ&dq=3993323

Begin topic drift();

(Speaking of which, I bought a mountain bike mail order, never having been
on one.

You're my kind of customer. Permit me to send you my catalog of
overpriced devices which can only be sold to someone that has done no
research or testing. You could have borrowed one before buying. Argh!

The forking thing weighs 32 lbs straight out of the box, and rides
like it has two flat tires.

Look at the tread. Are they knobbies? If so, they're made for the
trail, not the road. You want something smooth such as:
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_173257_-1_201492_10000_200518
Make sure the tire can handle at least 60 psi or it will feel like
you're riding on a flat tire. There are some that only go up to 40
psi.

Oh well... quality miles.

First you pay the health club to inflict pain. Now you purchase a
bicycle that does the same thing. Is there a pattern here?

But plush. In its
favor, I got to sit up and enjoy the evening sky. It's a slower, possibly
more enjoyable pace.

If you're enjoying yourself, and not feeling any pain, you're not
pushing yourself hard enough. Ask any physical therapist how that
works. No pain, no gain.

Now, how do I mount a power meter on this thing?)

Run a piece of Unistrut across the handlebars. You can mount anything
to that. Lights, computer, laptop, navigation GPS, fog horn, public
address speaker, siren, radar detector, cell phone, etc. Unistrut
comes with a variety of attachment accessories, so almost anything can
be mounted. What's a power meter look like?


--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 16:20:47 -0500, "MikeWhy"
wrote:

Any recommendations?

I never let sweat dry in clothes if I can help it -- when I come in
from a ride, I undress directly into the washer and let it fill,
agitate, and spin while I shower, then dry everything on hangers.
(Remove the hook from a wooden dress hanger and screw it back in from
the other side to make a sock-and-glove hanger.) One rinse in plain
water is enough if the clothing was clean before it got soaked in
sweat.

After washing my stockings in a bucket, I empty the bucket into the
washer and set it for the last part of the spin cycle. It's gentler
than wringing by hand, and gets out more of the water so there aren't
as many rinses required.

When washing delicates, it pays to under-load the washer so that they
don't rub on each other. I also stop the washer for about fifteen
minutes, and use only a few seconds of agitation between soaks.

Joy Beeson
--
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.

"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 20:14:15 -0500, "MikeWhy"
wrote:

"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
. ..
These might be more practical:
http://www.lehmans.com/store/Home_Goods___Laundry___Washing___Lehman_s__Best_Ha nd_Wringer___32823320
http://www.wisementrading.com/washing/wringer.htm
http://www.survivalunlimited.com/clothewringer.htm

As I mentioned, I'm enamored of the spin
dryer at the health club.

I've never seen one of those. Health Clubs are for the healthy, and I
don't exactly qualify. I also find it difficult to spend money
renting a modern day torture machine for the sole purpose of
inflicting pain upon myself. Masochism isn't for me. Therefore, I've
never experience the thrill of seeing my clothes in one of those
contrivances.

Toss the shorts in, it bucks briefly as it gets
going, and a few moments later, the shorts come out very slightly damp and
very wearable.

A few minutes?

Moments. (Sound it out.) You might count as high as ten if you count fast
enough.

The wringer rollers do the same thing in seconds. In
addition, you get some much needed rotational arm exercise, which is
not available on a lower extremity operated bicycle. Just think of
all the things the exercise machinery can do to you during the few
minutes you don't spend watching your clothes go round and round.

For the small loads I do, and it's the small loads that are
the problem, damp drying isn't such a huge problem. Rather than a wringer,
I
just roll each item one at a time in the towel after my shower, and twist
it
up hard and tight. It comes out drier than even the health club spin
thing,
but again, that has gotten old and tiresome.

Well, there is some exercise value in that, but methinks the wringer
will do the same think in less time and with less effort. You also
don't have to try the towels when you're done. The wringer is also
ready when you are, doesn't require electricity, is ecologically
correct, and lasts forever. It also has other applications, such as
flattening pasta dough.
http://www.kenwoodworld.com/en/Product-Videos/Attachments/Flat-Pasta-Maker-AT970A/
Ummm... don't forget to remove the cutters or you'll have shredded
Spandex.

If I'm really in a hurry to dry my clothes, I use an air compressor
(with oiler disabled and dryer attached). 150 psi to a high flow rate
nozzle and it will blow the water out of anything. It will also blow
holes in most fabric so some care is required. It does take some
time, but it works well enough on small things.

Leaf blower. I didn't think it had a bicycle related use, but the new bike
got all muddied up. I hosed it off and blow dried it before hanging it in
the garage. Could work even better than the compressor for a quick dry.


I appreciate the ideas.

Something is wrong. Nobody likes my ideas.

Maybe gut a child's trailer and install an eccentric
drum. I can do yesterday's laundry as I take today's ride. I'll do fewer
miles, but they'll be quality miles.

There are easier ways to get a "quality" ride.
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=VIcBAAAAEBAJ&dq=3614132
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=OAE1AAAAEBAJ&dq=3993323

Begin topic drift();

(Speaking of which, I bought a mountain bike mail order, never having been
on one.

You're my kind of customer. Permit me to send you my catalog of
overpriced devices which can only be sold to someone that has done no
research or testing. You could have borrowed one before buying. Argh!

The forking thing weighs 32 lbs straight out of the box, and rides
like it has two flat tires.

Look at the tread. Are they knobbies? If so, they're made for the
trail, not the road. You want something smooth such as:
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_173257_-1_201492_10000_200518
Make sure the tire can handle at least 60 psi or it will feel like
you're riding on a flat tire. There are some that only go up to 40
psi.

Oh well... quality miles.

First you pay the health club to inflict pain. Now you purchase a
bicycle that does the same thing. Is there a pattern here?

Racquetball, mostly. The pain inflicted is mostly to the ego, for which I've
now had years to acclimate.

2" wide knobbies. The desire was to get off-trail in the woods I normally
traverse at speed on crushed limestone. That, it does wonderfully. It was
the commute to the trail-head that had me stunned and breathless. I figured
out even that one on my own though, and paced Zone 3 all the way home.
Oddly, I wasn't passed even once holding that grandmother's pace, but that
might have been just the late hour.

But plush. In its
favor, I got to sit up and enjoy the evening sky. It's a slower, possibly
more enjoyable pace.

If you're enjoying yourself, and not feeling any pain, you're not
pushing yourself hard enough. Ask any physical therapist how that
works. No pain, no gain.

If that's the case, I still gained plenty. Where the roadie would coast
essentially into tomorrow, I didn't dare stop pedaling this leaden hulk for
a single moment. The descending tone on the tire whine is completely
dispiriting and egged me on constantly. And for sure, there's noticeably
less cooling at the lower speed.


Now, how do I mount a power meter on this thing?)

Run a piece of Unistrut across the handlebars. You can mount anything
to that. Lights, computer, laptop, navigation GPS, fog horn, public
address speaker, siren, radar detector, cell phone, etc. Unistrut
comes with a variety of attachment accessories, so almost anything can
be mounted. What's a power meter look like?

The Edge 705 sits fine on the stem. I just don't see building a wheel for a
powertap, or dropping mega-bucks for an SRM. The iBike won't work on the
varied ground cover.