Time to bring back Road Tax

On Sun, 23 May 2021 12:15:11 -0700 (PDT), , an especially
retarded, troll-feeding senile asshole (and typical Google groper to boot),
blathered again:

Those panels are very expensive, they're the most inefficient way of generating power. It only works out for some due to government grants.

So did the criminal council remove those bollards? I'd have locked up whoever made that decision for theft of his car. They prevented him using it.

No the bollards are still there, but he has a parking bay in his garden now.

Yes, you ARE a troll-feeding piece of senile ****, senile ****head!

On Sun, 23 May 2021 20:15:11 +0100, wrote:

On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 7:49:31 PM UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2021 20:38:19 +0100, wrote:

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 8:05:38 PM UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2021 18:46:32 +0100, wrote:

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 5:47:42 PM UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:

And we already have road tax. I don't care what label you put on it, motorists pay to use the road, that is a tax on the road.

What do the drivers of low polluting cars, like electric cars pay in VED?
Nowt. But that's just a temporary encouragement to lower pollution. Once we all have electric cars, the tax will be re-added (at a much higher rate as there won't be petrol duty), there will be a shortage of electricity so prices of that will skyrocket, there will be a shortage of lithium (which I think they still can't recycle properly) so the batteries will be phenominally expensive. Virtually nobody will be able to afford a car, and your household electricity will also be way too expensive.

Remember the bloke in Hull who has roof solar panels to charge his electric car?
He pays nothing in VED or electricity.
Those panels are very expensive, they're the most inefficient way of generating power. It only works out for some due to government grants.

So did the criminal council remove those bollards? I'd have locked up whoever made that decision for theft of his car. They prevented him using it.

No the bollards are still there, but he has a parking bay in his garden now.

https://goo.gl/maps/WKPJQSfvmSQmT5Jw7

Eh? I don't see the bollards I was referring to, the ones that blocked his car in.

And it's not a garden, it's a short driveway.

So how much money did the council steal off him to lower the kerb? And did they actually make it safer than him doing it himself? No, it's identical.

On Saturday, 22 May 2021 at 17:47:42 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2021 17:41:04 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

A typical modern car with all the 'safety' features weight 2 tonnes. Add in 5 typical motorists at 200kg each and compare it to a typical 10 kg bicycle. Using the 4th power of axle loading rule if cyclists pay 1p in annual 'Road Tax' motorists will need to pay £8.1 Billion each and that is before we take into account motorways and road space.
More like 1 tonne for a normal hatchback. And be more sensible and say the motorists weigh 100kg.

So, one cyclist and one bicycle = 75kg.
5 motorists and one car = 1500kg = 300kg each.

So the motorists are placing 4 times the weight on the road as the cyclist, not 810,000,000,000 times the weight.

And we already have road tax. I don't care what label you put on it, motorists pay to use the road, that is a tax on the road.

Which part of '4th power of axle loading' did you not understand?

On Saturday, 22 May 2021 at 17:47:42 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2021 17:41:04 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

A typical modern car with all the 'safety' features weight 2 tonnes. Add in 5 typical motorists at 200kg each and compare it to a typical 10 kg bicycle. Using the 4th power of axle loading rule if cyclists pay 1p in annual 'Road Tax' motorists will need to pay £8.1 Billion each and that is before we take into account motorways and road space.
More like 1 tonne for a normal hatchback. And be more sensible and say the motorists weigh 100kg.

So, one cyclist and one bicycle = 75kg.
5 motorists and one car = 1500kg = 300kg each.

So the motorists are placing 4 times the weight on the road as the cyclist, not 810,000,000,000 times the weight.


Even the most motorist friendly calculation to the nearest order of magnitude would be
Bicycle+rider = 100kg
Empty car = 1000kg
Both on 2 axles
Raised to the 4th power means car does 10 000 times as much damage as a bicycle.

On Wed, 26 May 2021 00:01:26 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 22 May 2021 at 17:47:42 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2021 17:41:04 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

A typical modern car with all the 'safety' features weight 2 tonnes.. Add in 5 typical motorists at 200kg each and compare it to a typical 10 kg bicycle. Using the 4th power of axle loading rule if cyclists pay 1p in annual 'Road Tax' motorists will need to pay £8.1 Billion each and that is before we take into account motorways and road space.
More like 1 tonne for a normal hatchback. And be more sensible and say the motorists weigh 100kg.

So, one cyclist and one bicycle = 75kg.
5 motorists and one car = 1500kg = 300kg each.

So the motorists are placing 4 times the weight on the road as the cyclist, not 810,000,000,000 times the weight.

And we already have road tax. I don't care what label you put on it, motorists pay to use the road, that is a tax on the road.

Which part of '4th power of axle loading' did you not understand?

Why would you expect me to? I'm not an engineer. Sounds like some bull**** made up by cyclists.

Now, did you take into account the superior suspension in cars, compared to the crap, or nonexistant, suspension on bikes?

On Wed, 26 May 2021 15:42:36 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 22 May 2021 at 17:47:42 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2021 17:41:04 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

A typical modern car with all the 'safety' features weight 2 tonnes.. Add in 5 typical motorists at 200kg each and compare it to a typical 10 kg bicycle. Using the 4th power of axle loading rule if cyclists pay 1p in annual 'Road Tax' motorists will need to pay £8.1 Billion each and that is before we take into account motorways and road space.
More like 1 tonne for a normal hatchback. And be more sensible and say the motorists weigh 100kg.

So, one cyclist and one bicycle = 75kg.
5 motorists and one car = 1500kg = 300kg each.

So the motorists are placing 4 times the weight on the road as the cyclist, not 810,000,000,000 times the weight.


Even the most motorist friendly calculation to the nearest order of magnitude would be
Bicycle+rider = 100kg
Empty car = 1000kg
Both on 2 axles
Raised to the 4th power means car does 10 000 times as much damage as a bicycle.

My car has two wheels on each axle, so you missed that out for a start. Clearly halving the axle weight presented on each wheel must make a difference.

On Wed, 26 May 2021 00:01:26 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 22 May 2021 at 17:47:42 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2021 17:41:04 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

A typical modern car with all the 'safety' features weight 2 tonnes.. Add in 5 typical motorists at 200kg each and compare it to a typical 10 kg bicycle. Using the 4th power of axle loading rule if cyclists pay 1p in annual 'Road Tax' motorists will need to pay £8.1 Billion each and that is before we take into account motorways and road space.
More like 1 tonne for a normal hatchback. And be more sensible and say the motorists weigh 100kg.

So, one cyclist and one bicycle = 75kg.
5 motorists and one car = 1500kg = 300kg each.

So the motorists are placing 4 times the weight on the road as the cyclist, not 810,000,000,000 times the weight.

And we already have road tax. I don't care what label you put on it, motorists pay to use the road, that is a tax on the road.

Which part of '4th power of axle loading' did you not understand?

So, if I stand on you while you're lying on the floor, then someone twice as heavy as me stands on you, it hurts you 16 times as much? Yeah right.

On Wednesday, 26 May 2021 at 19:21:19 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2021 00:01:26 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 22 May 2021 at 17:47:42 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2021 17:41:04 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

A typical modern car with all the 'safety' features weight 2 tonnes. Add in 5 typical motorists at 200kg each and compare it to a typical 10 kg bicycle. Using the 4th power of axle loading rule if cyclists pay 1p in annual 'Road Tax' motorists will need to pay £8.1 Billion each and that is before we take into account motorways and road space.
More like 1 tonne for a normal hatchback. And be more sensible and say the motorists weigh 100kg.

So, one cyclist and one bicycle = 75kg.
5 motorists and one car = 1500kg = 300kg each.

So the motorists are placing 4 times the weight on the road as the cyclist, not 810,000,000,000 times the weight.

And we already have road tax. I don't care what label you put on it, motorists pay to use the road, that is a tax on the road.

Which part of '4th power of axle loading' did you not understand?
So, if I stand on you while you're lying on the floor, then someone twice as heavy as me stands on you, it hurts you 16 times as much? Yeah right.

The peer review process supports the 4th power of axle loading rule. If you wish to disagree I suggest you do some research of your own then submit it for peer review. The first step in any research project is to consult the peer reviewed literature so you do not duplicate the work of others. Let me know when you have done this.

On Tue, 25 May 2021 16:01:26 -0700 (PDT), Mike Collins, another mentally
challenged troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered:


Which part of '4th power of axle loading' did you not understand?

He only understands: "will some senile asshole here take my bait again or
not?"

On Wed, 26 May 2021 14:03:40 -0700 (PDT), Mike Collins, another mentally
challenged troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered:


The peer review process supports the 4th power of axle loading rule. If
you wish to disagree I suggest you do some research of your own then
submit it for peer review. The first step in any research project is to
consult the peer reviewed literature so you do not duplicate the work of
others. Let me know when you have done this.

LOL Just wait and see what you get from him for feeding him, senile moron!