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Old February 6th 20, 12:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default Cyclists only ever break the law for their own safety

A Network Rail spokesperson said: "Ignoring the warning lights, sirens
or barriers at a level crossing is not only incredibly dangerous, it is
also illegal."

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...clist-17693778
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Old February 6th 20, 02:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Cyclists only ever break the law for their own safety

On 06/02/2020 12:29, MrCheerful wrote:
A Network Rail spokesperson said: "Ignoring the warning lights, sirens
or barriers at a level crossing is not only incredibly dangerous, it is
also illegal."

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...clist-17693778


How is it unsafe when nothing is coming?
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Old February 6th 20, 03:07 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Cyclists only ever break the law for their own safety

On 06/02/2020 14:49, TMS320 wrote:

On 06/02/2020 12:29, MrCheerful wrote:


A Network Rail spokesperson said: "Ignoring the warning lights, sirens
or barriers at a level crossing is not only incredibly dangerous, it
is also illegal."


https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...clist-17693778


How is it unsafe when nothing is coming?


You're just too cool to obey the law, aren't you?
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Old February 6th 20, 03:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Cyclists only ever break the law for their own safety

On 06/02/2020 15:07, JNugent wrote:
On 06/02/2020 14:49, TMS320 wrote:

On 06/02/2020 12:29, MrCheerful wrote:


A Network Rail spokesperson said: "Ignoring the warning lights,
sirens or barriers at a level crossing is not only incredibly
dangerous, it is also illegal."


https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...clist-17693778


How is it unsafe when nothing is coming?


You're just too cool to obey the law, aren't you?


Answer the question.
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Old February 6th 20, 03:41 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Cyclists only ever break the law for their own safety

On 06/02/2020 15:32, TMS320 wrote:

On 06/02/2020 15:07, JNugent wrote:
On 06/02/2020 14:49, TMS320 wrote:

On 06/02/2020 12:29, MrCheerful wrote:


A Network Rail spokesperson said: "Ignoring the warning lights,
sirens or barriers at a level crossing is not only incredibly
dangerous, it is also illegal."


https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...clist-17693778


How is it unsafe when nothing is coming?


You're just too cool to obey the law, aren't you?


Answer the question.


Ask the organisation responsible for safety on the railway? They know
more about it than I ever could. And certainly more than you ever will.

But no matter what the answer, you are just too cool to obey the law and
act responsibly. Aren't you?
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Old February 6th 20, 04:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Cyclists only ever break the law for their own safety

On 06/02/2020 15:41, JNugent wrote:
On 06/02/2020 15:32, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/02/2020 15:07, JNugent wrote:
On 06/02/2020 14:49, TMS320 wrote:

On 06/02/2020 12:29, MrCheerful wrote:

A Network Rail spokesperson said: "Ignoring the warning lights,
sirens or barriers at a level crossing is not only incredibly
dangerous, it is also illegal."

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...clist-17693778



How is it unsafe when nothing is coming?


You're just too cool to obey the law, aren't you?


Answer the question.


Ask the organisation responsible for safety on the railway? They know
more about it than I ever could. And certainly more than you ever will.


Cheerful used the word "safety". Since you had nothing to contribute you
had no need to reply.

But no matter what the answer, you are just too cool to obey the law and
act responsibly. Aren't you?

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Old February 6th 20, 04:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Cyclists only ever break the law for their own safety

On 06/02/2020 16:01, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/02/2020 15:41, JNugent wrote:
On 06/02/2020 15:32, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/02/2020 15:07, JNugent wrote:
On 06/02/2020 14:49, TMS320 wrote:

On 06/02/2020 12:29, MrCheerful wrote:

A Network Rail spokesperson said: "Ignoring the warning lights,
sirens or barriers at a level crossing is not only incredibly
dangerous, it is also illegal."

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...clist-17693778



How is it unsafe when nothing is coming?

You're just too cool to obey the law, aren't you?

Answer the question.


Ask the organisation responsible for safety on the railway? They know
more about it than I ever could. And certainly more than you ever will.


Cheerful used the word "safety". Since you had nothing to contribute you
had no need to reply.


I contributed the fact that no matter what the answer, you are just too
cool to do boring things like obeying the law or acting responsibly.

That's correct, isn't it?

If you see no objection to a cyclist's breach of the railway bye-laws,
then as far as you are concerned, that's the end of the matter and you
will overlook the offence entirely.

As I said:

But no matter what the answer, you are just too cool to obey the law
and act responsibly. Aren't you?


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Old February 6th 20, 04:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Cyclists only ever break the law for their own safety

On 06/02/2020 16:01, TMS320 wrote:

On 06/02/2020 15:41, JNugent wrote:
On 06/02/2020 15:32, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/02/2020 15:07, JNugent wrote:
On 06/02/2020 14:49, TMS320 wrote:

On 06/02/2020 12:29, MrCheerful wrote:

A Network Rail spokesperson said: "Ignoring the warning lights,
sirens or barriers at a level crossing is not only incredibly
dangerous, it is also illegal."

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...clist-17693778



How is it unsafe when nothing is coming?

You're just too cool to obey the law, aren't you?

Answer the question.


Ask the organisation responsible for safety on the railway? They know
more about it than I ever could. And certainly more than you ever will.


Cheerful used the word "safety".


He wasparaphrasing from Network Rail's "Ignoring the warning lights,
sirens [and] barriers at a level crossing is ... incredibly dangerous".

It's a surprise that you were unable to work that out for yourself. Or
is it?

But you probably know better than Network Rail do, I expect?
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Old February 6th 20, 05:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Cyclists only ever break the law for their own safety

On 06/02/2020 16:21, JNugent wrote:
On 06/02/2020 16:01, TMS320 wrote:


Cheerful used the word "safety". Since you had nothing to
contribute you had no need to reply.


I contributed the fact that no matter what the answer, you are just
too cool to do boring things like obeying the law or acting
responsibly.


Laws must have a reason for their existence. The answer to "why is a
particular act unsafe?" is not "do you condone law breaking?"

If you just want to accept, unthinking, everything your lords and
masters demand, you're a fool.

That's correct, isn't it?


Whereas you are so cool you can never answer a question but must always
reply with a tangential question. Or spend three paragraphs explaining
why you can't give an answer that would have taken three words.
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Old February 6th 20, 05:50 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Ian Smith
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Default Cyclists only ever break the law for their own safety

On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:49:06 +0000, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/02/2020 12:29, MrCheerful wrote:
A Network Rail spokesperson said: "Ignoring the warning lights, sirens
or barriers at a level crossing is not only incredibly dangerous, it is
also illegal."

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...clist-17693778


How is it unsafe when nothing is coming?


It's not.

It's unsafe to assume your assessment that nothing is coming is
infallible, however, especially if the barriers are down and/or the
warning lights are showing. In fact if the barriers are down and the
lights are showing it's pretty much certain that your assessment that
nothing is coming is wrong.

regards, Ian SMith
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