Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters andsidewalks

On Apr 15, 11:04*am, Eric Vey wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:

Somebody IS organized.http://spokesnfolks.blogspot.com/200...ahs-for-respon...

Riders cheered the news last night that one of the toll lanes onto the
Rickenbacker Causeway is soon to be kept open for bicycles only on
weekdays and early weekend mornings. Jeff Cohen, of Miami-Dade Public
Works, said the change will take place when current modifications of the
toll gates are complete.

About four dozen cyclists turned out for the bicycle town hall session
in Coral Gables. We heard encouraging news about some South Dade streets
that will be redone to include bike lanes (details later), and an update
on the long series of bike-safety improvements on the Rickenbacker
between Miami and Key Biscayne. Most of us were getting our first look
at a path solution that will take westbound riders off the Rickenbacker
smoothly onto Brickell Avenue without having to mix it up with cars and
boat trailers in the flyover. There's more, but I'll have to report
later. It's tax day, you know...

So what's the gain? It was free anytime, any day, no? Or you mean the
traffic lanes are being opened to bikes?

ComandanteBanana wrote:
On Apr 15, 11:04 am, Eric Vey wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:

Somebody IS organized.http://spokesnfolks.blogspot.com/200...ahs-for-respon...

Riders cheered the news last night that one of the toll lanes onto the
Rickenbacker Causeway is soon to be kept open for bicycles only on
weekdays and early weekend mornings. Jeff Cohen, of Miami-Dade Public
Works, said the change will take place when current modifications of the
toll gates are complete.

About four dozen cyclists turned out for the bicycle town hall session
in Coral Gables. We heard encouraging news about some South Dade streets
that will be redone to include bike lanes (details later), and an update
on the long series of bike-safety improvements on the Rickenbacker
between Miami and Key Biscayne. Most of us were getting our first look
at a path solution that will take westbound riders off the Rickenbacker
smoothly onto Brickell Avenue without having to mix it up with cars and
boat trailers in the flyover. There's more, but I'll have to report
later. It's tax day, you know...

So what's the gain? It was free anytime, any day, no? Or you mean the
traffic lanes are being opened to bikes?

I read that one lane will be for bikes only. This will not be all the
time, but on weekdays and early weekend mornings. I don't live there, so
I don't know much more about it.

On Apr 15, 11:26*am, Eric Vey wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
On Apr 15, 11:04 am, Eric Vey wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:

Somebody IS organized.http://spokesnfolks.blogspot.com/200...ahs-for-respon...

Riders cheered the news last night that one of the toll lanes onto the
Rickenbacker Causeway is soon to be kept open for bicycles only on
weekdays and early weekend mornings. Jeff Cohen, of Miami-Dade Public
Works, said the change will take place when current modifications of the
toll gates are complete.

About four dozen cyclists turned out for the bicycle town hall session
in Coral Gables. We heard encouraging news about some South Dade streets
that will be redone to include bike lanes (details later), and an update
on the long series of bike-safety improvements on the Rickenbacker
between Miami and Key Biscayne. Most of us were getting our first look
at a path solution that will take westbound riders off the Rickenbacker
smoothly onto Brickell Avenue without having to mix it up with cars and
boat trailers in the flyover. There's more, but I'll have to report
later. It's tax day, you know...

So what's the gain? It was free anytime, any day, no? Or you mean the
traffic lanes are being opened to bikes?

I read that one lane will be for bikes only. This will not be all the
time, but on weekdays and early weekend mornings. I don't live there, so
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Well, it ain't much of a difference I think.

Key Biscayne is like a bikers paradise (that's where the wealthy live
anyway), but once you go deep into the Miami jungle, things turn
scary. Your life won't be worth it more than a stray dog.

- Frank Krygowski

Frank, these posts occur every so often and I think there is an agenda
behind them. Otherwise, why all the cross-posting? What the OP has to say is
that it's an "us versus them" world---and "them" are homocidal maniacs bent
on destroying people riding bicycles. That is not the real world as you and
I both know. Ergo, I smell a troll with these posts.

Pat in TX

On Apr 15, 11:50*am, "Pat" wrote:
- Frank Krygowski

Frank, these posts occur every so often and I think there is an agenda
behind them. Otherwise, why all the cross-posting? What the OP has to say is
that it's an "us versus them" world---and "them" are homocidal maniacs bent
on destroying people riding bicycles. That is not the real world as you and
I both know. Ergo, I smell a troll with these posts.

Pat in TX

I've said before you look retarded. Frank it's not even on *your
side,* since you hate bicycles, even though you don't care because you
live in the boondocks.

Comandante, you need to find a better route!


Suzy, regrettably I don't live anywhere close to those places where
bicycles are OK, so I must be happy to do turn to my stationary bike,
and get my workout indoors...

But have you heard of Global Warming or the War in Iraq being
connected to what we drive? Should I also shot off the news from the
outside world?

Hey, I may as well go to church and pray that Armageddon is coming
soon...

"Pat" wrote in message
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- Frank Krygowski

Frank, these posts occur every so often and I think there is an agenda
behind them. Otherwise, why all the cross-posting? What the OP has to say
is that it's an "us versus them" world---and "them" are homocidal maniacs
bent on destroying people riding bicycles. That is not the real world as
you and I both know. Ergo, I smell a troll with these posts.

Pat in TX


You smell a troll? This place is stinking to the high heavens with this
troll and his buddies.

On Apr 15, 10:45 am, ComandanteBanana
wrote:
On Apr 14, 10:27 pm, wrote:

Pat (who?), Jack May, and "donquijote" all manage to be very wrong,
although the first two come at it from a different direction than our
"banana" boy.

DonQuijote and ComandanteBanana are the same thing.

I'm aware of that.


No, you won't get killed riding a bike, despite what Jack and Pat
claim. No, the world doesn't have to be transformed to make bicycling
safe, despite donquijote's paranoid whining.

All three of you need to learn a lot about the real data. The fatality
rate from bicycling is infinitesmal. There are roughly fifteen
million miles ridden between bike fatalities. People who cycle
regularly have been shown to live longer than typical motorists. Many
researchers have found that the risk of cycling is less, per hour,
than the risk of motoring, or less than the risk of walking near
traffic.

Man, you need to go in the jungle more often... "Riding a bicycle in
peak-hour traffic is at best harrowing, and at worst downright
treacherous."...

I've trimmed the rest of your usual paranoid whining.

I've ridden your "jungle" since I was in my 20s, many decades ago.
Unlike you, I've never needed to whine about how terrible the world
is. Unlike you, I've had no trouble dealing with traffic. Unlike
you, I've taken the time to look for actual data on bicycling's level
of danger. And in doing so, I found that despite the prevalence of
"Danger! Danger!" worriers, cycling is an _extremely_ safe activity.

I've commuted by bike since 1977. I've cycled in hundreds of cities,
and in peak rush hour in many of them. I've ridden in at least eight
countries. I've done many self-supported tours, up to 4000 miles.
I've ridden for nearly 40 years. In all that time, my only on-road
injury was one skinned knee. Off road, add one incident where I
scraped my hands a bit.

You're unreasonably paranoid and obnoxiously noisy about it. If
you're afraid to ride busy roads, don't do it. Ride where you're
comfortable, and quit your wimpy whining.

- Frank Krygowski

"
Frank, these posts occur every so often and I think there is an agenda
behind them. Otherwise, why all the cross-posting? What the OP has to say
is that it's an "us versus them" world---and "them" are homocidal maniacs
bent on destroying people riding bicycles. That is not the real world as
you and I both know. Ergo, I smell a troll with these posts.

Pat in TX


You smell a troll? This place is stinking to the high heavens with this
troll and his buddies.

Aw. and you used to be so mellow! Those trolls are frazzlin' you out, Rog!


Pat in TX

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"Dave Larrington" wrote:

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, ComandanteBanana tweaked the
Babbage-Engine to tell us:

That's where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters
and sidewalks.

Remind me again why BRITONS should care?

Because we're a big export market for British, Irish and Scottish beers?
The more we ride our bikes, the thirstier we get. ;-)