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SEX SELLS
On May 3, 2:26 am, Jym Dyer wrote:
=v= In response to a rather nice advert: http://www.thespincycle.com/files/20...Commercial.pdf Don Quixote a.k.a. No Lion No Problem a.k.a. Commandante Banana responded with Internet porn. Way to go, Commandante Dip****. Not only are you a fearmongering idiot, but you're a pathetic sexist porn-consumer. _Jym_ [I removed rec.bicycles.rides because this thread has nothing to do with the charter of that newsgroup. Honoring a newsgroup's charter is the most rudimentary courtesy on Usenet, which Don Quixote apparently lacks the necessary brainpower to grasp.] If you are afraid of sex or bikes, you shouldn't go to Holland. But this is NOT porno. This is a sexy lady on a bike. Yummy! Hey, but even in hypocritical America, Big Business uses sex to sell... "In the case of SUV consumers, the auto company marketers start by implanting the subliminal message you can be tough, independent and SEXY..." 'To sell a product (like an SUV) ad campaigns repeat a message over and over again in seductive way that appeals to a target audience, and like it or not people are not immune to it. Advertising like political propaganda is the art of getting people to believe a crafted message and advertisers know what buttons to push, kind of like how the Taliban brain washed their followers into believing that the United States is the enemy of Islam or how Nazi propaganda was able to put Hitler in power. So to some degree consumers of SUVs, followers of the Taliban and Nazi party, all have something in common and that is they all were fooled into buying bull****! In the case of SUV consumers, the auto company marketers start by implanting the subliminal message you can be tough, independent and SEXY, if ya buy and drive our brand of SUV. Notice many ads show an SUV in a wilderness, the H2 ads show it off roading in Iceland (the viewer is shown beautiful people conquering nature and having fun). In some National Geographic print ads for Toyota, they show back packers with their SUVs in the wilderness, with the slogan oh what a feeling. The basic idea of an auto company ad campaign is to associate driving their SUV with the idea of being SEXY, tough and independent. The tough and independent image of driving an SUV is further reinforced by the name of the vehicle (Path Finder, Trail Blazer, Mountaineer, Escape, Explorer, Expedition, etc.). Constant exposure to slick ads fools people into thinking they can walk the walk of being independent and tough just by buying the SUV shown in the idealized dreamland of advertisers. If you do not think SUV propaganda effects the consumer, then ask your self is it just a coincidence that SUVs became trendy after SUV advertising rose nearly nine-fold from $172.5 million in 1990 to $1.5 billion in 2000.' http://www.phaster.com/road_trips/su...they_suck.html And when you go to any auto show you find these stunning ladies selling the stupid SUVs in scanty cloth. SEX SELLS, you know. So, I don't see why not the Banana Revolution can't use sexy ladies and bananas to sell biking. Yeah, banana... "Sexual democracy becomes central even more than religious freedom when discussing the Dutch vision of democracy." http://www.bidoun.com/issues/issue_10/05a_all.html Actually, I propose a "Dutch Package," where issues normal to the Dutch --gay rights, bike facilities, prostitution and marihuana-- are discussed in less open societies. |
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HELMETS!!!
Tom Sherman wrote:
It is refreshing to see a US bicycle dealer promote utility cycling, showing someone without a foam hat and a load of groceries: http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf [1]. However, the "hi... hi" dialog is beyond cheesy. [1] Link may not work for Linux or Mac users. Nor for those of us who refuse to use the bloated, invasive, security-challenged Adobe Reader (as opposed, say, to Foxit). -- Rob Lindauer - Please change "att" to "sbc" for my real email address |
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HELMETS!!!
Tom Sherman writes:
Bill Zaumen wrote: Tom Sherman writes: Liddite Bill Zaumen wrote: (Infantile name calling from an idiot.) Merely an accurate description, no? Of you - and your behavior truly is infantile. rest of this idiot's rant snipped -- My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB |
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HELMETS!!!
Tom Sherman writes:
Bill Zaumen wrote: Tom Sherman writes: http://www.thespincycle.com/files/20...Commercial.pdf AdobeĀ® Clip NotesĀ® as I posted above? Oh, just to show what a fool Tom Sherman is, I used a program I have that prints the HTTP response headers. Here's what you get: Status: 200 OK ... Content-Type: application/pdf ... Content-Length: 2090466 Note the Content-Type header - it claims the file is a PDF file. The extension ".pdf" is the extension normally used by a PDF file. So, do you think it is surprising that my browser would try to open it as a PDF file? Nothing about some special "AdobeĀ® Clip NotesĀ®" format was given. Yo Zaumen, My browser also opens the link as a PDF. When I go to the link, it says "AdobeĀ® Clip NotesĀ®" right above the black box displayed on the page. There is an RFC describing the PDF format. Adobe is going around modifying it for business reasons, and those changes are not in the standard. Is it any surprise that something doesn't work when you aren't using Adobe products? Furthermore, the dialog box that appears says, "This PDF uses Adobe Clip Notes technology to allow you to review a movie and to add comments...." ..... nope - no such dialog box appears - not with my PDF viewer. You showed your ignorance on that one - assuming your system behaves like everyone else's. Then player controls and a box to allow review comments appears below the "black box" that allows one to play the video clip. .... same thing ... new adobe product that "extends" a standard but doesn't tell you. To bad computer expert Zaumen can not get his computer to work with the web page, so he would not look like a fool for calling me a fool, No, you are are the fool. I simply don't bother with Adobe's viewer for a variety of reasons, including package management. Read up on it if you are not familiar with the concept. Sherman, you really are an idiot. -- My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB |
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HELMETS!!!
Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes: Bill Zaumen wrote: Tom Sherman writes: Liddite Bill Zaumen wrote: (Infantile name calling from an idiot.) Merely an accurate description, no? Of you - and your behavior truly is infantile. rest of this idiot's rant snipped Anger management issues? -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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HELMETS!!!
Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes: Bill Zaumen wrote: Tom Sherman writes: http://www.thespincycle.com/files/20...Commercial.pdf AdobeĀ® Clip NotesĀ® as I posted above? Oh, just to show what a fool Tom Sherman is, I used a program I have that prints the HTTP response headers. Here's what you get: Status: 200 OK ... Content-Type: application/pdf ... Content-Length: 2090466 Note the Content-Type header - it claims the file is a PDF file. The extension ".pdf" is the extension normally used by a PDF file. So, do you think it is surprising that my browser would try to open it as a PDF file? Nothing about some special "AdobeĀ® Clip NotesĀ®" format was given. Yo Zaumen, My browser also opens the link as a PDF. When I go to the link, it says "AdobeĀ® Clip NotesĀ®" right above the black box displayed on the page. There is an RFC describing the PDF format. Adobe is going around modifying it for business reasons, and those changes are not in the standard. Is it any surprise that something doesn't work when you aren't using Adobe products? You are the expert, no? I made no previous comment on the surprising nature or lack thereof. Furthermore, the dialog box that appears says, "This PDF uses Adobe Clip Notes technology to allow you to review a movie and to add comments...." .... nope - no such dialog box appears - not with my PDF viewer. Well it does on mine (actually in the PDF window Firefox opens). You showed your ignorance on that one - assuming your system behaves like everyone else's. I have not examined other people systems. How the hell can it be ignorant to report exactly what one sees? Zaumen's lack of logic here is truly bizarre. Then player controls and a box to allow review comments appears below the "black box" that allows one to play the video clip. ... same thing ... new adobe product that "extends" a standard but doesn't tell you. So? Again for slow on the uptake, I am reporting on what happens on MY system. Duh! Adobe tells us the Clip Notes is being used by the logo and dialog box appearing on the screen. Duh! To bad computer expert Zaumen can not get his computer to work with the web page, so he would not look like a fool for calling me a fool, No, you are are the fool. I simply don't bother with Adobe's viewer for a variety of reasons, including package management. Read up on it if you are not familiar with the concept. No Zaumen, you are a fool for claiming I was a fool for saying AdobeĀ® Clip NotesĀ® was involved, when the evidence of such is easily obtained by anyone who system has Adobe's viewer installed. You can not make an event that actually occurred go away just because you think it should not have happened. Duh! Sherman, you really are an idiot. Accurately reporting what appears on a computer monitor is a sign of idiocy, just because it disagrees with The Great Bill Zaumen's assumptions? WOW! -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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Are you in favor of using sex to sell biking?
Sincerely, guys, I think you are riding the wrong saddles that leave
you, you know with ED (impotence). In this other forum, look what they say to the question, "Are you in favor of using sex to sell biking?" http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=414469 Yep, 85% of them think is good. The good news is that if you change the seat, it should be all right. Look for the ones with the groove. |
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HELMETS!!!
Bill Z. :
There is an RFC describing the PDF format. Adobe is going around modifying it for business reasons, and those changes are not in the standard. Is it any surprise that something doesn't work when you aren't using Adobe products? Can you cite the RFC number? The nearest I can find is RFC 3778, which is by no means a full description of the format; rather it offers a few notes on usage and a pointer to the separately-published (by Adobe, not by the IETF) PDF Reference Manuals. If the full specification has also been published by the IETF I'd be interested to know where. Norman Wilson Toronto ON -- To reply directly, expel `.edu'. |
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HELMETS!!!
Tom Sherman writes:
Bill Zaumen wrote: Tom Sherman writes: Bill Zaumen wrote: Tom Sherman writes: Liddite Bill Zaumen wrote: (Infantile name calling from an idiot.) Merely an accurate description, no? Of you - and your behavior truly is infantile. rest of this idiot's rant snipped Anger management issues? No, time-management issues. If you want your posts to not be treated as utter garbage, I suggest you not start them with infantile name calling. -- My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB |
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