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Old June 5th 19, 07:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andy
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I have thought about carrying a short range cell phone jammer while biking.

I have given it careful thought. But when traveling as a passenger I increasingly see drivers drifting over into other lanes.

They are irresponsible idiots who are a danger to everyone.

Andy
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Old June 5th 19, 02:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Ralph Barone[_4_]
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Andy wrote:
I have thought about carrying a short range cell phone jammer while biking.

I have given it careful thought. But when traveling as a passenger I
increasingly see drivers drifting over into other lanes.

They are irresponsible idiots who are a danger to everyone.

Andy


Think of this scenario. You’re driving while posting on Facebook. Suddenly
your phone stops working. Do you:

A) immediately put the phone down and pay attention to your surroundings,

or

B) become oblivious to everything as you try and figure out what’s wrong
with your phone.

Probably not a good idea in my opinion.

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Old June 5th 19, 02:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 6/5/2019 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I have thought about carrying a short range cell phone jammer while biking.

I have given it careful thought. But when traveling as a passenger I increasingly see drivers drifting over into other lanes.

They are irresponsible idiots who are a danger to everyone.

Andy


Good luck with that.
FCC has an unkindly view of pirate transmitters.

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Old June 6th 19, 12:32 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wed, 05 Jun 2019 08:16:55 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/5/2019 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I have thought about carrying a short range cell phone jammer while biking.

I have given it careful thought. But when traveling as a passenger I increasingly see drivers drifting over into other lanes.

They are irresponsible idiots who are a danger to everyone.

Andy


Good luck with that.
FCC has an unkindly view of pirate transmitters.


Somewhere on the net a guy wrote that "back in the day" a driver had a
wheel, a gear shift and three pedals and one switch on the floor and
had to be at least minimally alert to handle all this. Now with cruise
control the drive has only the wheel and this can spend more time on
other things like day-dreaming, sleeping or messing about with a hand
phone.

I wonder whether he may not have been correct?
--
cheers,

John B.

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Old June 6th 19, 05:30 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:33:06 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jun 2019 08:16:55 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/5/2019 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I have thought about carrying a short range cell phone jammer while biking.

I have given it careful thought. But when traveling as a passenger I increasingly see drivers drifting over into other lanes.

They are irresponsible idiots who are a danger to everyone.

Andy


Good luck with that.
FCC has an unkindly view of pirate transmitters.


Somewhere on the net a guy wrote that "back in the day" a driver had a
wheel, a gear shift and three pedals and one switch on the floor and
had to be at least minimally alert to handle all this. Now with cruise
control the drive has only the wheel and this can spend more time on
other things like day-dreaming, sleeping or messing about with a hand
phone.

I wonder whether he may not have been correct?
--
cheers,

John B.


"one switch on the floor" Do you mean the older cars that had the light dimmer on the floor as a silver button sticking up and you dimmed or flashed the lights by stepping on it? As a kid I vaguely remember driving one of those new modern fancy cars that had the light dimmer by moving the turn signal back and forward. Dim the lights with your hands!!!!!!
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Old June 6th 19, 06:30 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 21:30:29 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:33:06 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jun 2019 08:16:55 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/5/2019 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I have thought about carrying a short range cell phone jammer while biking.

I have given it careful thought. But when traveling as a passenger I increasingly see drivers drifting over into other lanes.

They are irresponsible idiots who are a danger to everyone.

Andy


Good luck with that.
FCC has an unkindly view of pirate transmitters.


Somewhere on the net a guy wrote that "back in the day" a driver had a
wheel, a gear shift and three pedals and one switch on the floor and
had to be at least minimally alert to handle all this. Now with cruise
control the drive has only the wheel and this can spend more time on
other things like day-dreaming, sleeping or messing about with a hand
phone.

I wonder whether he may not have been correct?
--
cheers,

John B.


"one switch on the floor" Do you mean the older cars that had the light dimmer on the floor as a silver button sticking up and you dimmed or flashed the lights by stepping on it? As a kid I vaguely remember driving one of those new modern fancy cars that had the light dimmer by moving the turn signal back and forward. Dim the lights with your hands!!!!!!


Yup. I don't remember how the last year that the dimmer switch was on
the floor but I do remember the first car I saw with the light switch
on the steering column and how strange I thought it was... some sort
of strange European scheme I remember thinking.

Added to that I remember driving a bloke's Cadillac that had an
automatic light "dipper". When you met another car it automatically
dipped the lights... and also dipped the lights every time your light
lit up a big roadside sign :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

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Old June 6th 19, 02:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Radey Shouman
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John B. writes:

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 21:30:29 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:33:06 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jun 2019 08:16:55 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/5/2019 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I have thought about carrying a short range cell phone jammer
while biking.

I have given it careful thought. But when traveling as a
passenger I increasingly see drivers drifting over into other
lanes.

They are irresponsible idiots who are a danger to everyone.

Andy


Good luck with that.
FCC has an unkindly view of pirate transmitters.

Somewhere on the net a guy wrote that "back in the day" a driver had a
wheel, a gear shift and three pedals and one switch on the floor and
had to be at least minimally alert to handle all this. Now with cruise
control the drive has only the wheel and this can spend more time on
other things like day-dreaming, sleeping or messing about with a hand
phone.

I wonder whether he may not have been correct?
--
cheers,

John B.


"one switch on the floor" Do you mean the older cars that had the
light dimmer on the floor as a silver button sticking up and you
dimmed or flashed the lights by stepping on it? As a kid I vaguely
remember driving one of those new modern fancy cars that had the
light dimmer by moving the turn signal back and forward. Dim the
lights with your hands!!!!!!


Yup. I don't remember how the last year that the dimmer switch was on
the floor but I do remember the first car I saw with the light switch
on the steering column and how strange I thought it was... some sort
of strange European scheme I remember thinking.


For me, sometime between a 1977 vehicle and a 1980. I still don't
understand the advantage of having the dimmer on a stalk.

Added to that I remember driving a bloke's Cadillac that had an
automatic light "dipper". When you met another car it automatically
dipped the lights... and also dipped the lights every time your light
lit up a big roadside sign :-)
--
cheers,

John B.


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Old June 6th 19, 02:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 6/5/2019 11:30 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:33:06 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jun 2019 08:16:55 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/5/2019 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I have thought about carrying a short range cell phone jammer while biking.

I have given it careful thought. But when traveling as a passenger I increasingly see drivers drifting over into other lanes.

They are irresponsible idiots who are a danger to everyone.


Good luck with that.
FCC has an unkindly view of pirate transmitters.


Somewhere on the net a guy wrote that "back in the day" a driver had a
wheel, a gear shift and three pedals and one switch on the floor and
had to be at least minimally alert to handle all this. Now with cruise
control the drive has only the wheel and this can spend more time on
other things like day-dreaming, sleeping or messing about with a hand
phone.

I wonder whether he may not have been correct?



"one switch on the floor" Do you mean the older cars that had the light dimmer on the floor as a silver button sticking up and you dimmed or flashed the lights by stepping on it? As a kid I vaguely remember driving one of those new modern fancy cars that had the light dimmer by moving the turn signal back and forward. Dim the lights with your hands!!!!!!


My cars all have the light switch on the floor. I thought Mr
Slocumb meant the starter button. I haven't had a car with
that in a very long time.

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Old June 7th 19, 12:17 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 06 Jun 2019 08:18:54 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/5/2019 11:30 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:33:06 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jun 2019 08:16:55 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/5/2019 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I have thought about carrying a short range cell phone jammer while biking.

I have given it careful thought. But when traveling as a passenger I increasingly see drivers drifting over into other lanes.

They are irresponsible idiots who are a danger to everyone.


Good luck with that.
FCC has an unkindly view of pirate transmitters.

Somewhere on the net a guy wrote that "back in the day" a driver had a
wheel, a gear shift and three pedals and one switch on the floor and
had to be at least minimally alert to handle all this. Now with cruise
control the drive has only the wheel and this can spend more time on
other things like day-dreaming, sleeping or messing about with a hand
phone.

I wonder whether he may not have been correct?



"one switch on the floor" Do you mean the older cars that had the light dimmer on the floor as a silver button sticking up and you dimmed or flashed the lights by stepping on it? As a kid I vaguely remember driving one of those new modern fancy cars that had the light dimmer by moving the turn signal back and forward. Dim the lights with your hands!!!!!!


My cars all have the light switch on the floor. I thought Mr
Slocumb meant the starter button. I haven't had a car with
that in a very long time.


Yes, but than you apparently drive what you probably refer to as
"classic cars" (and others refer to as "old bangers") but, if I
remember correctly, the old bangers that had the starter on the floor
had an actual pedal that when pressed shifted the starter motor into
engagement with the engine flywheel.

Or maybe not always, I remember that Ford flatheads had some sort of
weird starter system that was different from other autos of the same
vintage.
--
cheers,

John B.

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Old June 6th 19, 06:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 06 Jun 2019 06:32:57 +0700, John B.
wrote:

Somewhere on the net a guy wrote that "back in the day" a driver had a
wheel, a gear shift and three pedals and one switch on the floor and
had to be at least minimally alert to handle all this. Now with cruise
control the drive has only the wheel and this can spend more time on
other things like day-dreaming, sleeping or messing about with a hand
phone.

I wonder whether he may not have been correct?


Does that decode into; I wonder whether he may have been incorrect?

Something else to wonder about is why public safety, transportation
services, ham radio, CB, and other 2way radio users have been driving
around talking on their radios for about a century without much of a
problem. I didn't see any mention of distracted driving until the
advent of cell phones (and LCD touch screens). So, what's the
difference between cell phones and 2way radio?

Cell phones are full duplex while mobile radios are half duplex. Full
duplex means the one talk and hear at the same time. Half duplex
means the radio can transmit or receive but not both at the same time.
The human brain can multitask two tasks at the same time with minimal
confusion (not zero confusion). It can deal with operating the
vehicle while listening to the radio. Or, it can deal with operating
the vehicle while talking on the radio. However, it cannot deal with
operating the vehicle while talking and listening at the same time.
Three tasks are too much to handle.

To fix the problem, switch the cell phone from full duplex to half
duplex and require the driver to depress a PTT (push to talk) switch
while talking. This has the added bonus of giving the driver a rest
while he listens to whatever the other party is saying, much like the
common AM/FM/CD/USB player. In effect, make the car kit cell phone
operate like a 2way radio and it might reduce distracted driving
accidents. It won't reduce them to zero, but it will be a big help.



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