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Somebody mail the Page Family a copy of the U.S. Constitution
On Dec 25, 6:13*pm, "
wrote: Tool, the First Amendment has nothing to do with this. *The First Amendment doesn't protect you from Cori Page putting you in a headlock. snip Dumbass - I was amused by this quote from the article: begin Page, who was third Sunday, said the heckling was "uncalled for." "I don't feel it needs to be part of American bike racing ... I don't go into their job and start booing them," he said. snipend How naive. Professional athletes are entertainers,entertainers are paid to be public figures and the job description includes being cheered, booed or whatever. I think jerry in vermont has been giving him too many blowjobs and its scrambled his brain. Either that or he was stupid to begin with. thanks, K. Gringioni. |
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Somebody mail the Page Family a copy of the U.S. Constitution
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Dec 25, 6:13 pm, " wrote: Tool, the First Amendment has nothing to do with this. The First Amendment doesn't protect you from Cori Page putting you in a headlock. snip Dumbass - I was amused by this quote from the article: begin Page, who was third Sunday, said the heckling was "uncalled for." "I don't feel it needs to be part of American bike racing ... I don't go into their job and start booing them," he said. snipend How naive. Professional athletes are entertainers,entertainers are paid to be public figures and the job description includes being cheered, booed or whatever. I think jerry in vermont has been giving him too many blowjobs and its scrambled his brain. Either that or he was stupid to begin with. thanks, K. Gringioni. I thought you didn't know what the 'heckling mess' was about. There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event (although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an interview. |
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Somebody mail the Page Family a copy of the U.S. Constitution
MagillaGorilla wrote:
" wrote: On Dec 25, 6:13 pm, MagillaGorilla wrote: " wrote: The First Amendment protects content. Had that same guy been yelling "Great job, Jonathan!" would your hypothetical cop have arrested them for saying that? If the answer is no - and we all know it is - then the cop just violated his civil rights for arresting him for heckling Page because the basis of the arrest was the content of his speech. Everybody was yelling and ringing cow bells in the park that day. Tool, the First Amendment has nothing to do with this. The First Amendment doesn't protect you from Cori Page putting you in a headlock. State laws against assault protect you from that. The fact that you were booing is immaterial. If putting you in a headlock is illegal, it's illegal whether you were shouting or not. I hear that Cori Page gave you a noogie because she was offended by your lack of knowledge of constitutional law. Ben You have a First Amendment right to express yourself in a public park. That protects you from getting arrested by the police. You also have a right not to be assaulted in a public park just because someone doesn't like what you said. Page, his brother-in-law, and his wife Cori are delusional idiots for thinking they had a right to physically assault someone just because they didn't like what he was saying. If I were there I would have joined in the heckling. No wonder why Page sucks so bad - he and his entourage have the ability to rationalize anything. Magilla That's a huge laugh considering how you couldn't get the job done on the big stage. |
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Somebody mail the Page Family a copy of the U.S. Constitution
On Dec 25, 10:12*pm, Carl Sundquist wrote:
I thought you didn't know what the 'heckling mess' was about. There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event (although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an interview.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Actually allowing others their free speech is a foreign concept these days, unfortunately, along with respect, consideration, and responsible behavior. Screaming someone down, and denying them the right to speak is free speech, as long as you aren't the one being harrassed, threatened, and intimidated. Sad episode all around with an innocent party taking the damage, and somehow Richie is supposed to be wrong for wanting people held responsible. That's just as bad. Bill C |
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Somebody mail the Page Family a copy of the U.S. Constitution
"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
... There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event (although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an interview. Personally I think that it would be cool to take it to court and listen to the judge turn on the hairy one and jail him. |
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Somebody mail the Page Family a copy of the U.S. Constitution
On Dec 25, 10:32*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Personally I think that it would be cool to take it to court and listen to the judge turn on the hairy one and jail him. Gotta be careful there Tom, MB dreams about being "nailed" by a big hairy one. Bill C |
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Somebody mail the Page Family a copy of the U.S. Constitution
On Dec 25, 7:12*pm, Carl Sundquist wrote:
I thought you didn't know what the 'heckling mess' was about. There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event (although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an interview. Dumbass - Didn't know until this thread. As for the difference - I disagree, not if it's in a public place. Analogy. after a football game, if the sideline reporter is interviewing a player and fans are in the background interrupting, booing, heckling, cheering, whatever. well, that's just part of the gig. thanks, K. Gringioni |
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Somebody mail the Page Family a copy of the U.S. Constitution
Bill C wrote:
On Dec 25, 10:12 pm, Carl Sundquist wrote: I thought you didn't know what the 'heckling mess' was about. There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event (although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an interview.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Actually allowing others their free speech is a foreign concept these days, unfortunately, along with respect, consideration, and responsible behavior. Screaming someone down, and denying them the right to speak is free speech, as long as you aren't the one being harrassed, threatened, and intimidated. Sad episode all around with an innocent party taking the damage, and somehow Richie is supposed to be wrong for wanting people held responsible. That's just as bad. Bill C I don't think anyone in here believes freedom of speech to be an absolute and unrestricted right. "DON'T TAZE ME, BRO!!!" |
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Somebody mail the Page Family a copy of the U.S. Constitution
On Dec 25, 10:44*pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
Analogy. after a football game, if the sideline reporter is interviewing a player and fans are in the background interrupting, booing, heckling, cheering, whatever. well, that's just part of the gig. thanks, K. Gringioni Agreed, the question is just how disruptful was he being. Unless it actually, physically made the interview impossible it's just rude. Badly handled by just about everyone. I heard so many bad things about the Nat's at KC, both years that this is just the cherry to top it off. I'm sure the folks out in oregon will do a much better job all around. Hecklers are removed from events all the time, especially when they start disrupting media stuff. Interview are/tent? An Official on hand at the time? With media exposure being the bread and butter for sponsors this sure as hell doesn't help sell the product. Bill C |
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Somebody mail the Page Family a copy of the U.S. Constitution
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Dec 25, 7:12 pm, Carl Sundquist wrote: I thought you didn't know what the 'heckling mess' was about. There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event (although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an interview. Dumbass - Didn't know until this thread. As for the difference - I disagree, not if it's in a public place. Analogy. after a football game, if the sideline reporter is interviewing a player and fans are in the background interrupting, booing, heckling, cheering, whatever. well, that's just part of the gig. thanks, K. Gringioni If that is the case, then like the sideline reporters, the organizers should have held the awards/interviews in a more controlled forum. However, I suspect what happened was unexpected, if not unprecedented. Unfortunately, that just means that in the future organizers may feel compelled to budget for a secured interview area or for security to manage the interview area. How would you handle hecklers at a band gig? |
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