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Old December 26th 08, 04:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kurgan Gringioni
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On Dec 25, 6:13*pm, "
wrote:


Tool, the First Amendment has nothing to do with
this. *The First Amendment doesn't protect you from
Cori Page putting you in a headlock.



snip



Dumbass -


I was amused by this quote from the article:

begin

Page, who was third Sunday, said the heckling was "uncalled for."

"I don't feel it needs to be part of American bike racing ... I don't
go into their job and start booing them," he said.

snipend


How naive. Professional athletes are entertainers,entertainers are
paid to be public figures and the job description includes being
cheered, booed or whatever.

I think jerry in vermont has been giving him too many blowjobs and its
scrambled his brain. Either that or he was stupid to begin with.



thanks,

K. Gringioni.
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  #12  
Old December 26th 08, 04:12 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carl Sundquist
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Dec 25, 6:13 pm, "
wrote:

Tool, the First Amendment has nothing to do with
this. The First Amendment doesn't protect you from
Cori Page putting you in a headlock.



snip



Dumbass -


I was amused by this quote from the article:

begin

Page, who was third Sunday, said the heckling was "uncalled for."

"I don't feel it needs to be part of American bike racing ... I don't
go into their job and start booing them," he said.

snipend


How naive. Professional athletes are entertainers,entertainers are
paid to be public figures and the job description includes being
cheered, booed or whatever.

I think jerry in vermont has been giving him too many blowjobs and its
scrambled his brain. Either that or he was stupid to begin with.



thanks,

K. Gringioni.


I thought you didn't know what the 'heckling mess' was about.

There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event
(although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an
interview.
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Old December 26th 08, 04:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carl Sundquist
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MagillaGorilla wrote:
" wrote:

On Dec 25, 6:13 pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
" wrote:


The First Amendment protects content. Had that same guy been yelling "Great job,
Jonathan!" would your hypothetical cop have arrested them for saying that? If
the answer is no - and we all know it is - then the cop just violated his civil
rights for arresting him for heckling Page because the basis of the arrest was
the content of his speech. Everybody was yelling and ringing cow bells in the
park that day.

Tool, the First Amendment has nothing to do with
this. The First Amendment doesn't protect you from
Cori Page putting you in a headlock.
State laws against assault protect you from that.
The fact that you were booing is immaterial. If
putting you in a headlock is illegal, it's illegal whether
you were shouting or not.

I hear that Cori Page gave you a noogie because
she was offended by your lack of knowledge
of constitutional law.

Ben


You have a First Amendment right to express yourself in a public park. That protects
you from getting arrested by the police. You also have a right not to be assaulted in
a public park just because someone doesn't like what you said.

Page, his brother-in-law, and his wife Cori are delusional idiots for thinking they
had a right to physically assault someone just because they didn't like what he was
saying.

If I were there I would have joined in the heckling. No wonder why Page sucks so bad
- he and his entourage have the ability to rationalize anything.

Magilla


That's a huge laugh considering how you couldn't get the job done on the
big stage.
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Old December 26th 08, 04:26 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Bill C
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On Dec 25, 10:12*pm, Carl Sundquist wrote:

I thought you didn't know what the 'heckling mess' was about.

There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event
(although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an
interview.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Actually allowing others their free speech is a foreign concept these
days, unfortunately, along with respect, consideration, and
responsible behavior.
Screaming someone down, and denying them the right to speak is free
speech, as long as you aren't the one being harrassed, threatened, and
intimidated.
Sad episode all around with an innocent party taking the damage, and
somehow Richie is supposed to be wrong for wanting people held
responsible. That's just as bad.
Bill C
  #15  
Old December 26th 08, 04:32 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
...

There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event
(although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an
interview.


Personally I think that it would be cool to take it to court and listen to
the judge turn on the hairy one and jail him.

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Old December 26th 08, 04:34 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Bill C
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On Dec 25, 10:32*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:


Personally I think that it would be cool to take it to court and listen to
the judge turn on the hairy one and jail him.


Gotta be careful there Tom, MB dreams about being "nailed" by a big
hairy one.
Bill C
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Old December 26th 08, 04:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kurgan Gringioni
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On Dec 25, 7:12*pm, Carl Sundquist wrote:


I thought you didn't know what the 'heckling mess' was about.

There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event
(although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an
interview.





Dumbass -


Didn't know until this thread.

As for the difference - I disagree, not if it's in a public place.

Analogy. after a football game, if the sideline reporter is
interviewing a player and fans are in the background
interrupting, booing, heckling, cheering, whatever.
well, that's just part of the gig.


thanks,

K. Gringioni
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Old December 26th 08, 04:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carl Sundquist
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Bill C wrote:
On Dec 25, 10:12 pm, Carl Sundquist wrote:

I thought you didn't know what the 'heckling mess' was about.

There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event
(although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an
interview.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Actually allowing others their free speech is a foreign concept these
days, unfortunately, along with respect, consideration, and
responsible behavior.
Screaming someone down, and denying them the right to speak is free
speech, as long as you aren't the one being harrassed, threatened, and
intimidated.
Sad episode all around with an innocent party taking the damage, and
somehow Richie is supposed to be wrong for wanting people held
responsible. That's just as bad.
Bill C


I don't think anyone in here believes freedom of speech to be an
absolute and unrestricted right.

"DON'T TAZE ME, BRO!!!"
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Old December 26th 08, 04:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Bill C
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On Dec 25, 10:44*pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

Analogy. after a football game, if the sideline reporter is
interviewing a player and fans are in the background
interrupting, booing, heckling, cheering, whatever.
well, that's just part of the gig.

thanks,

K. Gringioni


Agreed, the question is just how disruptful was he being. Unless it
actually, physically made the interview impossible it's just rude.
Badly handled by just about everyone. I heard so many bad things
about the Nat's at KC, both years that this is just the cherry to top
it off.
I'm sure the folks out in oregon will do a much better job all
around. Hecklers are removed from events all the time, especially when
they start disrupting media stuff. Interview are/tent? An Official on
hand at the time? With media exposure being the bread and butter for
sponsors this sure as hell doesn't help sell the product.
Bill C
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Old December 26th 08, 04:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carl Sundquist
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Dec 25, 7:12 pm, Carl Sundquist wrote:

I thought you didn't know what the 'heckling mess' was about.

There is a difference between heckling a participant during an event
(although Wellens didn't seem to know that) and heckling/disrupting an
interview.





Dumbass -


Didn't know until this thread.

As for the difference - I disagree, not if it's in a public place.

Analogy. after a football game, if the sideline reporter is
interviewing a player and fans are in the background
interrupting, booing, heckling, cheering, whatever.
well, that's just part of the gig.


thanks,

K. Gringioni



If that is the case, then like the sideline reporters, the organizers
should have held the awards/interviews in a more controlled forum.
However, I suspect what happened was unexpected, if not unprecedented.
Unfortunately, that just means that in the future organizers may feel
compelled to budget for a secured interview area or for security to
manage the interview area.

How would you handle hecklers at a band gig?
 




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