Bicycling specific clothing = why not?

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 10:19:31 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 03:09:33 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 05:46:54 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:17:10 -0700 (PDT), AK

wrote:

I cringe when I see motorcyclists without helmets. :-(

Why? cyclists of both species rode their two wheeled devices for far
more many years without helmets than with.

no they crop the casualities for organ transplants.

In the late 1800's? Remember the first "safety bicycles" were built in
the 1860's and the first motorcycle seems to be around 1894. Were they
doing organ transplants in those days? They certainly weren't wearing
helmets.

That was meant to ba "NOW, they crop.....

On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 3:11:24 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 10:17:31 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:

Most of my rides are demanding and nothing is worse than wearing cotton and drenching it with sweat. So I always wear bicycle specific clothing.

Lycra *makes* me sweat. I like cotton because it is cool.

Not to prescribe, but there is a whole new world of blends out there. I had a first generation Lycra jersey for a team I was on in the late '70s, and it was like wearing a plastic trash bag -- and it held a stink forever. I still have it. It still stinks. Some of the modern blends and weaves are pretty amazing in terms of breathability, weight drying, easy washing, etc. I like pure cotton dress shirts with a nice finish, but I take those to the cleaners.

But what a person wears on a bike is their business and not mine so I cannot understand why anyone would disparage the clothing of another.

Exactly. Too many block fuhrers around.

It is perfectly O.K. to think disparaging thoughts. I was sitting in a coffee shop at my destination last week when a woman walked in wearing white lycra cycling shorts with hips as wide as Montana, a belly and a skin tight white team jersey. It looked like someone put a condom over a soft-serve ice cream cone. Serious disparagement was in order, which I kept to myself -- although I about spit out my coffee when she walked in. Do people not look in the mirror before leaving home? When I'm in one of my overweight phases (like now, regrettably), I wear one of my fat jerseys.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 7/13/2019 2:17 PM, AK wrote:
On Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 10:06:19 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 8:30:19 AM UTC-4, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:00:38 +1000, James wrote:


(In most of Australia it is a legal requirement to wear a helmet. That
in itself could be said to be a change to what you're wearing.)

Unless you've just been up a ladder.
Bacxkground; men over 60 feature significantly in deaths from falling off
a ladder in Australia and I consider a bicycle helment of better use than
those plastic "construction hats".

Ladder manufacturers are too smart to accept promotion of ladder helmets. It
will make use of ladders seem too dangerous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07o-TASvIxY

- Frank Krygowski

Mr. Anderon is somewhat interesting.

He tends to drag things out.

So I only watched half of it.

If he believes we should not wear a helmet while biking, I can give him names of folks permanently injured because they chose not to wear a helmet.

I found myself under a ladies car. I am sure that not having a helmet on caused the 5 staples in my head and a concussion and my head bleeding.

Fortunately, a bystander had a handkerchief for the blood and the ambulance was very quick.

Probably would not have helped with my broken wrist

I cringe when I see motorcyclists without helmets. :-(

When looking at videos, always consider the source.

Andy


Well, if we're descending to anecdote, I know quite a few
people who crashed without significant injury both with &
without headgear.

I also knew some wonderful cyclists who are dead from
bicycle crashes, both with and without, equally dead.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Saturday, July 13, 2019 at 8:25:47 PM UTC-7, AK wrote:

To be honest, most of our leaders do not represent their constituency.

To be elected takes big bucks.

If say some honest God fearing person wants to run.

He will need a lot of money to run his campaign.

How many companies etc. will be willing to support that person if they know he will not give them any favors?

Andy, what is your purpose with these sorts of comments? Do you figure on remaining a minor for the rest of your days? What sort of idiot believes that people running for office represent only people with money because only money gets people elected?

At some time you have to grow up and realize that most of the money used in most of the campaigns comes in $10 dribs and drabs from middle class working class people and not the 400 super-rich people in this country.

Like police work, representing people through the government is a tiresome and thankless job. What we're seeing in the House of Representatives is the exception and not the rule. What we're seeing is a drive of the entire Democrat Party for some sort of insane belief for open borders and socialism for people that are not citizens.

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 13:27:21 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 10:19:31 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 03:09:33 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 05:46:54 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:17:10 -0700 (PDT), AK

wrote:

I cringe when I see motorcyclists without helmets. :-(

Why? cyclists of both species rode their two wheeled devices for far
more many years without helmets than with.

no they crop the casualities for organ transplants.

In the late 1800's? Remember the first "safety bicycles" were built in
the 1860's and the first motorcycle seems to be around 1894. Were they
doing organ transplants in those days? They certainly weren't wearing
helmets.

That was meant to ba "NOW, they crop.....

Yes, my spell checker does occasionally make the same sort of mistake
:-)
--
cheers,

John B.

On 11/7/19 10:30 pm, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:00:38 +1000, James wrote:


(In most of Australia it is a legal requirement to wear a helmet. That
in itself could be said to be a change to what you're wearing.)

Unless you've just been up a ladder.
Bacxkground; men over 60 feature significantly in deaths from falling off
a ladder in Australia and I consider a bicycle helment of better use than
those plastic "construction hats".


A fellow died when he crashed his bicycle in Newcastle, NSW recently.
He was wearing a bicycle helmet at the time. He crashed negotiating,
fairly recently installed, tram tracks (street car tracks). The helmet
didn't prevent the fatal head injury that killed him.


AFAIK, plastic construction hats are more for offering some protection
from falling objects, rather than the person falling and landing on
their head.

--
JS

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 12:30:42 +1000, James wrote:

On 11/7/19 10:30 pm, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:00:38 +1000, James wrote:


(In most of Australia it is a legal requirement to wear a helmet.
That in itself could be said to be a change to what you're wearing.)

Unless you've just been up a ladder.
Bacxkground; men over 60 feature significantly in deaths from falling
off a ladder in Australia and I consider a bicycle helment of better
use than those plastic "construction hats".


A fellow died when he crashed his bicycle in Newcastle, NSW recently. He
was wearing a bicycle helmet at the time. He crashed negotiating,
fairly recently installed, tram tracks (street car tracks). The helmet
didn't prevent the fatal head injury that killed him.


AFAIK, plastic construction hats are more for offering some protection
from falling objects, rather than the person falling and landing on
their head.

Over the years, I've developed a collection of various. The best helmet
I've ever own was a MSr climbing helmet. As a bicycle helmet it was
fantastic for head protection, except during hot weather.

My plastic construction collection started when I did some time in an
und=er groubnd coal mine. Good for head scraping n caving and carrying a
ands free light.

Best use was when a groud of us were investingatin a "stormwater
retardation dam" construction in a local natural creek and we were told
to clear out as we didn't have hard hats. As if they'd be any use around
large excavators and bull dozer. Any way, annoyed them greatly when we
returned complete with hard hats.

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 07:40:25 -0700, jbeattie wrote:


It is perfectly O.K. to think disparaging thoughts. I was sitting in a
coffee shop at my destination last week when a woman walked in wearing
white lycra cycling shorts with hips as wide as Montana, a belly and a
skin tight white team jersey. It looked like someone put a condom over
a soft-serve ice cream cone. Serious disparagement was in order, which I
kept to myself -- although I about spit out my coffee when she walked
in. Do people not look in the mirror before leaving home? When I'm in
one of my overweight phases (like now, regrettably), I wear one of my
fat jerseys.

I always remeber a similar story told of a female cyclist of similar
proportions, but across the arse was the brand name of spanish salami,

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 07:20:59 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 12:30:42 +1000, James wrote:

On 11/7/19 10:30 pm, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:00:38 +1000, James wrote:


(In most of Australia it is a legal requirement to wear a helmet.
That in itself could be said to be a change to what you're wearing.)

Unless you've just been up a ladder.
Bacxkground; men over 60 feature significantly in deaths from falling
off a ladder in Australia and I consider a bicycle helment of better
use than those plastic "construction hats".


A fellow died when he crashed his bicycle in Newcastle, NSW recently. He
was wearing a bicycle helmet at the time. He crashed negotiating,
fairly recently installed, tram tracks (street car tracks). The helmet
didn't prevent the fatal head injury that killed him.


AFAIK, plastic construction hats are more for offering some protection
from falling objects, rather than the person falling and landing on
their head.

Over the years, I've developed a collection of various. The best helmet
I've ever own was a MSr climbing helmet. As a bicycle helmet it was
fantastic for head protection, except during hot weather.

My plastic construction collection started when I did some time in an
und=er groubnd coal mine. Good for head scraping n caving and carrying a
ands free light.

Best use was when a groud of us were investingatin a "stormwater
retardation dam" construction in a local natural creek and we were told
to clear out as we didn't have hard hats. As if they'd be any use around
large excavators and bull dozer. Any way, annoyed them greatly when we
returned complete with hard hats.

I think that the requirement to wear a hard hat on construction sites
is largely a requirement to pacify the insurance folks. At least that
is what the oil well drilling people used to tell us.

And they have to be the correct type of hard hat. No aluminum allowed.
It conducts electricity we were told... although there was no
electricity on the drilling floor :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 3:40:27 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:

It is perfectly O.K. to think disparaging thoughts.

My late friend Douglas Sutherland, author of The English Gentleman, used to say that a gentleman causes no unintentional hurt. It's qualification with a point: some people deserve to be disparaged, though for their actions rather than their appearance.

Andre Jute
Good was having a giggle when he put some women in lycra pants, and many cyclists too