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Old December 16th 08, 05:20 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.rides
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In article
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Chalo wrote:

Jorg Lueke wrote:

Tim McNamara wrote:

-1F for the high today, -14F predicted for the low tonight, and the cold
part of the winter yet to come. *Ed and I have finally found something
to agree on. *Minnesota winters suck.


It kills the bugs


Here in Austin, we use Mexican Free-tailed bats for that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_Avenue_Bridge

Chalo


hey, that's pretty cool!

In the Contented People's Republic of Illinois, it was 7F today, with
very much ice on everything. I wouldn't want to have had to walk on what
i rode over. Hazardous for walking, the sheets of ice were crudittes*
for my Nokian's.

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Old December 17th 08, 02:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.rides
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:25:07 -0800, Jay Beattie wrote:
snip for clarity
On a somewhat tech note, I went to put on my (car) snow wheels on
Saturday, and my aluminum rims had welded to the iron hubs. Should have
used my anti-seize! Getting those mo-fos off was a monumental PIA, but
finally got it done.


actually pretty easy to do this - simply loosen the lug nuts a couple of
turns, then go drive around the block. a couple of hard braking episodes
will break free the stubbornest of rusted wheels.
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Old December 17th 08, 03:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.rides
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On Dec 17, 7:41*am, jim beam wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:25:07 -0800, Jay Beattie wrote:

snip for clarity

On a somewhat tech note, I went to put on my (car) snow wheels on
Saturday, and my aluminum rims had welded to the iron hubs. *Should have
used my anti-seize! *Getting those mo-fos off was a monumental PIA, but
finally got it done.


actually pretty easy to do this - simply loosen the lug nuts a couple of
turns, then go drive around the block. *a couple of hard braking episodes
will break free the stubbornest of rusted wheels.


God Danged Jim. Thats the only intelligent thing you've ever posted
on this forum.
  #14  
Old December 17th 08, 08:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.rides
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On Dec 17, 6:08*am, "
wrote:
On Dec 17, 7:41*am, jim beam wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:25:07 -0800, Jay Beattie wrote:


snip for clarity


On a somewhat tech note, I went to put on my (car) snow wheels on
Saturday, and my aluminum rims had welded to the iron hubs. *Should have
used my anti-seize! *Getting those mo-fos off was a monumental PIA, but
finally got it done.


actually pretty easy to do this - simply loosen the lug nuts a couple of
turns, then go drive around the block. *a couple of hard braking episodes
will break free the stubbornest of rusted wheels.


God Danged Jim. *Thats the only intelligent thing you've ever posted
on this forum.


I did that, and it worked with the front wheel but not the rear
wheel. I had to take additional measures for the rear wheel,
including putting some Liquid Wrench between the rim and hub and
engaging in the telephone book rhumba -- you loosen the lug nuts and
then drive the stuck wheel over a phone book, back and forth. Then
you kick the wheel in strategic locations. That finally worked. Or
maybe it was the swearing that did it.

Anyway, I rode to work on my new, cheap-o Innova ice tires today. Not
going to win any races on those fatties, but, wow, they really do work
well on ice. I was getting a little too cocky and almost wiped out.
They are not good on dry pavement, though. They squirm and float
quite a bit, and the tread is not that straight -- or else it looks
crooked because the tires are slowly blowing off my svelt Open Pros.
That happened when I was blowing one up, but the tube is so beefy that
at 60psi, a 4" section just bulged out and sat there.

It's near white-out looking out my office window, so I guess I will
have plenty of fresh snow and ice for the ride home.-- Jay Beattie.

..
  #15  
Old December 17th 08, 10:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.rides
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"Jay Beattie" wrote in message
...
On Dec 17, 6:08 am, "
wrote:
On Dec 17, 7:41 am, jim beam wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:25:07 -0800, Jay Beattie wrote:


snip for clarity


On a somewhat tech note, I went to put on my (car) snow wheels on
Saturday, and my aluminum rims had welded to the iron hubs. Should
have
used my anti-seize! Getting those mo-fos off was a monumental PIA,
but
finally got it done.


actually pretty easy to do this - simply loosen the lug nuts a couple
of
turns, then go drive around the block. a couple of hard braking
episodes
will break free the stubbornest of rusted wheels.


God Danged Jim. Thats the only intelligent thing you've ever posted
on this forum.


I did that, and it worked with the front wheel but not the rear
wheel. I had to take additional measures for the rear wheel,
including putting some Liquid Wrench between the rim and hub and
engaging in the telephone book rhumba -- you loosen the lug nuts and
then drive the stuck wheel over a phone book, back and forth. Then
you kick the wheel in strategic locations. That finally worked. Or
maybe it was the swearing that did it.


My 4lb club hammer was bought specifically to remove a wheel from my car.
I'd tried the 1lb one, no joy, no matter how hard I went at it. 4lb one,
smack, wheel off.


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Old December 17th 08, 11:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.rides
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On Dec 17, 1:59*pm, Jay Beattie wrote:
On Dec 17, 6:08*am, "





wrote:
On Dec 17, 7:41*am, jim beam wrote:


On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:25:07 -0800, Jay Beattie wrote:


snip for clarity


On a somewhat tech note, I went to put on my (car) snow wheels on
Saturday, and my aluminum rims had welded to the iron hubs. *Should have
used my anti-seize! *Getting those mo-fos off was a monumental PIA, but
finally got it done.


actually pretty easy to do this - simply loosen the lug nuts a couple of
turns, then go drive around the block. *a couple of hard braking episodes
will break free the stubbornest of rusted wheels.


God Danged Jim. *Thats the only intelligent thing you've ever posted
on this forum.


I did that, and it worked with the front wheel but not the rear
wheel. *I had to take additional measures for the rear wheel,
including putting some Liquid Wrench between the rim and hub and
engaging in the telephone book rhumba -- you loosen the lug nuts and
then drive the stuck wheel over a phone book, back and forth. *Then
you kick the wheel in strategic locations. *That finally worked. Or
maybe it was the swearing that did it.

Anyway, I rode to work on my new, cheap-o Innova ice tires today. *Not
going to win any races on those fatties, but, wow, they really do work
well on ice. *I was getting a little too cocky and almost wiped out.
They are not good on dry pavement, though. *They squirm and float
quite a bit, and the tread is not that straight -- or else it looks
crooked because the tires are slowly blowing off my svelt Open Pros.
That happened when I was blowing one up, but the tube is so beefy that
at 60psi, a 4" section just bulged out and sat there.

*It's *near white-out looking out my office window, so I guess I will
have plenty of fresh snow and ice for the ride home.-- Jay Beattie.

.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm using my new Schwalbe Marathon Winter 700x35 studded tires. They
ride perfectly fine on dry pavement. In loose snow, such as on the
side of the road after the cars have pounded it for awhile, they can
get squirrely. Ice or dry pavement, great traction. They are slower
than regular tires. Partly because I only put 35 psi in them to allow
them to flatten out as much as possible and get all 4 rows of studs in
contact with the ground.

http://www.amazon.com/Schwalbe-Marat...9551993&sr=1-2

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.asp

  #17  
Old December 17th 08, 11:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.rides
Jay Beattie
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On Dec 17, 2:15*pm, "
wrote:
On Dec 17, 1:59*pm, Jay Beattie wrote:





On Dec 17, 6:08*am, "


wrote:
On Dec 17, 7:41*am, jim beam wrote:


On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:25:07 -0800, Jay Beattie wrote:


snip for clarity


On a somewhat tech note, I went to put on my (car) snow wheels on
Saturday, and my aluminum rims had welded to the iron hubs. *Should have
used my anti-seize! *Getting those mo-fos off was a monumental PIA, but
finally got it done.


actually pretty easy to do this - simply loosen the lug nuts a couple of
turns, then go drive around the block. *a couple of hard braking episodes
will break free the stubbornest of rusted wheels.


God Danged Jim. *Thats the only intelligent thing you've ever posted
on this forum.


I did that, and it worked with the front wheel but not the rear
wheel. *I had to take additional measures for the rear wheel,
including putting some Liquid Wrench between the rim and hub and
engaging in the telephone book rhumba -- you loosen the lug nuts and
then drive the stuck wheel over a phone book, back and forth. *Then
you kick the wheel in strategic locations. *That finally worked. Or
maybe it was the swearing that did it.


Anyway, I rode to work on my new, cheap-o Innova ice tires today. *Not
going to win any races on those fatties, but, wow, they really do work
well on ice. *I was getting a little too cocky and almost wiped out.
They are not good on dry pavement, though. *They squirm and float
quite a bit, and the tread is not that straight -- or else it looks
crooked because the tires are slowly blowing off my svelt Open Pros.
That happened when I was blowing one up, but the tube is so beefy that
at 60psi, a 4" section just bulged out and sat there.


*It's *near white-out looking out my office window, so I guess I will
have plenty of fresh snow and ice for the ride home.-- Jay Beattie.


.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm using my new Schwalbe Marathon Winter 700x35 studded tires. *They
ride perfectly fine on dry pavement. *In loose snow, such as on the
side of the road after the cars have pounded it for awhile, they can
get squirrely. *Ice or dry pavement, great traction. *They are slower
than regular tires. *Partly because I only put 35 psi in them to allow
them to flatten out as much as possible and get all 4 rows of studs in
contact with the ground.

http://www.amazon.com/Schwalbe-Marat...ck/dp/B00113L8...

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.asp- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Those Schwalbe look mighty nice (I have the Schwalbe Blizzards on this
bike for ordinary riding), but they are two to three times the price I
paid for my beater Innovas. If I lived in Minnesota, I might make the
investment. Bike Tires Direct has a whole slew of ice tires including
the Schwalbe. http://www.biketiresdirect.com/searc...?ss=330&cat=su

I just felt that in these tough economic times, I should support
Chinese industry. And melamine gives me added grip on ice. -- Jay
Beattie.
  #18  
Old December 18th 08, 12:25 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.rides
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"Jay Beattie" wrote in message
...
On Dec 17, 2:15 pm, "
wrote:
On Dec 17, 1:59 pm, Jay Beattie wrote:





On Dec 17, 6:08 am, "


wrote:
On Dec 17, 7:41 am, jim beam wrote:


On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:25:07 -0800, Jay Beattie wrote:


snip for clarity


On a somewhat tech note, I went to put on my (car) snow wheels on
Saturday, and my aluminum rims had welded to the iron hubs. Should
have
used my anti-seize! Getting those mo-fos off was a monumental PIA,
but
finally got it done.


actually pretty easy to do this - simply loosen the lug nuts a
couple of
turns, then go drive around the block. a couple of hard braking
episodes
will break free the stubbornest of rusted wheels.


God Danged Jim. Thats the only intelligent thing you've ever posted
on this forum.


I did that, and it worked with the front wheel but not the rear
wheel. I had to take additional measures for the rear wheel,
including putting some Liquid Wrench between the rim and hub and
engaging in the telephone book rhumba -- you loosen the lug nuts and
then drive the stuck wheel over a phone book, back and forth. Then
you kick the wheel in strategic locations. That finally worked. Or
maybe it was the swearing that did it.


Anyway, I rode to work on my new, cheap-o Innova ice tires today. Not
going to win any races on those fatties, but, wow, they really do work
well on ice. I was getting a little too cocky and almost wiped out.
They are not good on dry pavement, though. They squirm and float
quite a bit, and the tread is not that straight -- or else it looks
crooked because the tires are slowly blowing off my svelt Open Pros.
That happened when I was blowing one up, but the tube is so beefy that
at 60psi, a 4" section just bulged out and sat there.


It's near white-out looking out my office window, so I guess I will
have plenty of fresh snow and ice for the ride home.-- Jay Beattie.


.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm using my new Schwalbe Marathon Winter 700x35 studded tires. They
ride perfectly fine on dry pavement. In loose snow, such as on the
side of the road after the cars have pounded it for awhile, they can
get squirrely. Ice or dry pavement, great traction. They are slower
than regular tires. Partly because I only put 35 psi in them to allow
them to flatten out as much as possible and get all 4 rows of studs in
contact with the ground.

http://www.amazon.com/Schwalbe-Marat...ck/dp/B00113L8...

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.asp- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Those Schwalbe look mighty nice (I have the Schwalbe Blizzards on this
bike for ordinary riding), but they are two to three times the price I
paid for my beater Innovas. If I lived in Minnesota, I might make the
investment. Bike Tires Direct has a whole slew of ice tires including
the Schwalbe.
http://www.biketiresdirect.com/searc...?ss=330&cat=su

I just felt that in these tough economic times, I should support
Chinese industry. And melamine gives me added grip on ice. -- Jay
Beattie.


Jay,
"...slew of ice tires..." gave me a good laugh, thanks,
Kerry


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Old December 18th 08, 04:46 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.rides
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On Dec 17, 3:25*pm, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
"Jay Beattie" wrote in message

...
On Dec 17, 2:15 pm, "





wrote:
On Dec 17, 1:59 pm, Jay Beattie wrote:


On Dec 17, 6:08 am, "


wrote:
On Dec 17, 7:41 am, jim beam wrote:


On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:25:07 -0800, Jay Beattie wrote:


snip for clarity


On a somewhat tech note, I went to put on my (car) snow wheels on
Saturday, and my aluminum rims had welded to the iron hubs. Should
have
used my anti-seize! Getting those mo-fos off was a monumental PIA,
but
finally got it done.


actually pretty easy to do this - simply loosen the lug nuts a
couple of
turns, then go drive around the block. a couple of hard braking
episodes
will break free the stubbornest of rusted wheels.


God Danged Jim. Thats the only intelligent thing you've ever posted
on this forum.


I did that, and it worked with the front wheel but not the rear
wheel. I had to take additional measures for the rear wheel,
including putting some Liquid Wrench between the rim and hub and
engaging in the telephone book rhumba -- you loosen the lug nuts and
then drive the stuck wheel over a phone book, back and forth. Then
you kick the wheel in strategic locations. That finally worked. Or
maybe it was the swearing that did it.


Anyway, I rode to work on my new, cheap-o Innova ice tires today. Not
going to win any races on those fatties, but, wow, they really do work
well on ice. I was getting a little too cocky and almost wiped out.
They are not good on dry pavement, though. They squirm and float
quite a bit, and the tread is not that straight -- or else it looks
crooked because the tires are slowly blowing off my svelt Open Pros.
That happened when I was blowing one up, but the tube is so beefy that
at 60psi, a 4" section just bulged out and sat there.


It's near white-out looking out my office window, so I guess I will
have plenty of fresh snow and ice for the ride home.-- Jay Beattie.


.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm using my new Schwalbe Marathon Winter 700x35 studded tires. They
ride perfectly fine on dry pavement. In loose snow, such as on the
side of the road after the cars have pounded it for awhile, they can
get squirrely. Ice or dry pavement, great traction. They are slower
than regular tires. Partly because I only put 35 psi in them to allow
them to flatten out as much as possible and get all 4 rows of studs in
contact with the ground.


http://www.amazon.com/Schwalbe-Marat...ck/dp/B00113L8...


http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.asp-Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Those Schwalbe look mighty nice (I have the Schwalbe Blizzards on this
bike for ordinary riding), but they are two to three times the price I
paid for my beater Innovas. *If I lived in Minnesota, I might make the
investment. Bike Tires Direct has a whole slew of ice tires including
the Schwalbe.http://www.biketiresdirect.com/searc...?ss=330&cat=su

I just felt that in these tough economic times, I should support
Chinese industry. And melamine gives me added grip on ice. -- Jay
Beattie.

Jay,
"...slew of ice tires..." gave me a good laugh, thanks,
Kerry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not a slew? Hey, I was happy they had two for me. Those tires were
great for riding home tonight in the epic snow storm (which seemed a
lot like the usual rain storm). News at 6,7,8,9,10 . . . -- Jay
Beattie.
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Old December 18th 08, 05:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.rides
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On Dec 17, 4:31*pm, Jay Beattie wrote:
On Dec 17, 2:15*pm, "





wrote:
On Dec 17, 1:59*pm, Jay Beattie wrote:


On Dec 17, 6:08*am, "


wrote:
On Dec 17, 7:41*am, jim beam wrote:


On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:25:07 -0800, Jay Beattie wrote:


snip for clarity


On a somewhat tech note, I went to put on my (car) snow wheels on
Saturday, and my aluminum rims had welded to the iron hubs. *Should have
used my anti-seize! *Getting those mo-fos off was a monumental PIA, but
finally got it done.


actually pretty easy to do this - simply loosen the lug nuts a couple of
turns, then go drive around the block. *a couple of hard braking episodes
will break free the stubbornest of rusted wheels.


God Danged Jim. *Thats the only intelligent thing you've ever posted
on this forum.


I did that, and it worked with the front wheel but not the rear
wheel. *I had to take additional measures for the rear wheel,
including putting some Liquid Wrench between the rim and hub and
engaging in the telephone book rhumba -- you loosen the lug nuts and
then drive the stuck wheel over a phone book, back and forth. *Then
you kick the wheel in strategic locations. *That finally worked. Or
maybe it was the swearing that did it.


Anyway, I rode to work on my new, cheap-o Innova ice tires today. *Not
going to win any races on those fatties, but, wow, they really do work
well on ice. *I was getting a little too cocky and almost wiped out..
They are not good on dry pavement, though. *They squirm and float
quite a bit, and the tread is not that straight -- or else it looks
crooked because the tires are slowly blowing off my svelt Open Pros.
That happened when I was blowing one up, but the tube is so beefy that
at 60psi, a 4" section just bulged out and sat there.


*It's *near white-out looking out my office window, so I guess I will
have plenty of fresh snow and ice for the ride home.-- Jay Beattie.


.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm using my new Schwalbe Marathon Winter 700x35 studded tires. *They
ride perfectly fine on dry pavement. *In loose snow, such as on the
side of the road after the cars have pounded it for awhile, they can
get squirrely. *Ice or dry pavement, great traction. *They are slower
than regular tires. *Partly because I only put 35 psi in them to allow
them to flatten out as much as possible and get all 4 rows of studs in
contact with the ground.


http://www.amazon.com/Schwalbe-Marat...ck/dp/B00113L8...


http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.asp-Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Those Schwalbe look mighty nice (I have the Schwalbe Blizzards on this
bike for ordinary riding), but they are two to three times the price I
paid for my beater Innovas. *If I lived in Minnesota, I might make the
investment. Bike Tires Direct has a whole slew of ice tires including
the Schwalbe.http://www.biketiresdirect.com/searc...?ss=330&cat=su

I just felt that in these tough economic times, I should support
Chinese industry. And melamine gives me added grip on ice. -- Jay
Beattie.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Twice the price. But over twice the studs. 240 compared to 110.
Carbide instead of carbon steel. They are the most expensive bike
tires I've ever bought.
 




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