Time to bring back Road Tax

On Thursday, 27 May 2021 at 15:08:46 UTC+1, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT), Mike Collins wrote:


Even the most motorist friendly calculation to the nearest order of magnitude would be
Bicycle+rider = 100kg
Empty car = 1000kg
Both on 2 axles
Raised to the 4th power means car does 10 000 times as much damage as a bicycle.
See, start feeding the troll and you quickly start sounding as idiotic and
ridiculous as the troll. Such is the "power" of his idiocy! LOL

I am aware of the troll but there was nothing idiotic about my analysis.
Of course not!!! pat pat LOL

Are you being a patronising git or do you disagree with the facts?
He doesn't get it! LOL

Do you use Craig or Santrock?

On Thu, 27 May 2021 13:06:20 -0700 (PDT), Mike Collins wrote:

On Thursday, 27 May 2021 at 15:08:46 UTC+1, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT), Mike Collins wrote:

Even the most motorist friendly calculation to the nearest order of magnitude would be
Bicycle+rider = 100kg
Empty car = 1000kg
Both on 2 axles
Raised to the 4th power means car does 10 000 times as much damage as a bicycle.
See, start feeding the troll and you quickly start sounding as idiotic and
ridiculous as the troll. Such is the "power" of his idiocy! LOL

I am aware of the troll but there was nothing idiotic about my analysis.
Of course not!!! pat pat LOL

Are you being a patronising git or do you disagree with the facts?
He doesn't get it! LOL

Do you use Craig or Santrock?

I'm just laughing at all you dimwits who can't but play the proven
clinically insane Scottish troll's game! BG

On 28/05/21 8:58 am, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 13:06:20 -0700 (PDT), Mike Collins wrote:

On Thursday, 27 May 2021 at 15:08:46 UTC+1, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT), Mike Collins wrote:

Even the most motorist friendly calculation to the nearest order of magnitude would be
Bicycle+rider = 100kg
Empty car = 1000kg
Both on 2 axles
Raised to the 4th power means car does 10 000 times as much damage as a bicycle.
See, start feeding the troll and you quickly start sounding as idiotic and
ridiculous as the troll. Such is the "power" of his idiocy! LOL

I am aware of the troll but there was nothing idiotic about my analysis.
Of course not!!! pat pat LOL

Are you being a patronising git or do you disagree with the facts?
He doesn't get it! LOL

Do you use Craig or Santrock?

I'm just laughing at all you dimwits who can't but play the proven
clinically insane Scottish troll's game! BG

Peeler generally feeds on the internal organs of dead fish. Often,
he will enter the body of the dead fish through the gills, mouth, or
anus, rather than ripping through the skin.

On Fri, 28 May 2021 21:25:53 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
little cyclist, blabbered again:


I'm just laughing at all you dimwits who can't but play the proven
clinically insane Scottish troll's game! BG

Peeler generally feeds on the internal organs of dead fish. Often,
he will enter the body of the dead fish through the gills, mouth, or
anus, rather than ripping through the skin.

LOL!!! Poor miserable gay cyclist!

On Wed, 26 May 2021 22:03:40 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

On Wednesday, 26 May 2021 at 19:21:19 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2021 00:01:26 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

On Saturday, 22 May 2021 at 17:47:42 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2021 17:41:04 +0100, Mike Collins wrote:

A typical modern car with all the 'safety' features weight 2 tonnes. Add in 5 typical motorists at 200kg each and compare it to a typical 10 kg bicycle. Using the 4th power of axle loading rule if cyclists pay 1p in annual 'Road Tax' motorists will need to pay £8.1 Billion each and that is before we take into account motorways and road space.
More like 1 tonne for a normal hatchback. And be more sensible and say the motorists weigh 100kg.

So, one cyclist and one bicycle = 75kg.
5 motorists and one car = 1500kg = 300kg each.

So the motorists are placing 4 times the weight on the road as the cyclist, not 810,000,000,000 times the weight.

And we already have road tax. I don't care what label you put on it, motorists pay to use the road, that is a tax on the road.

Which part of '4th power of axle loading' did you not understand?
So, if I stand on you while you're lying on the floor, then someone twice as heavy as me stands on you, it hurts you 16 times as much? Yeah right.

The peer review process supports the 4th power of axle loading rule. If you wish to disagree I suggest you do some research of your own then submit it for peer review. The first step in any research project is to consult the peer reviewed literature so you do not duplicate the work of others. Let me know when you have done this.

Meanwhile in reality, I use common sense. The 4th power rule has only ever been seen in cycling communities as yet another piece of **** excuse to get rid of the scary motor vehicles.

On Thu, 27 May 2021 08:39:22 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

On 26/05/2021 19:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Now, did you take into account the superior suspension in cars, compared
to the crap, or nonexistant, suspension on bikes?

Curious idea. My bicycle has active suspension. My car doesn't.

Most cars have better suspension than most bicycles. My bike has spring suspension on both ends, so is probably similar to my car, but most bikes I see have suspension on one end or none at all.

On 03/06/2021 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 08:39:22 +0100, TMS320 wrote:
On 26/05/2021 19:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Now, did you take into account the superior suspension in cars, compared
to the crap, or nonexistant, suspension on bikes?

Curious idea. My bicycle has active suspension. My car doesn't.

Most cars have better suspension than most bicycles.

Wrong.

My bike has spring
suspension on both ends, so is probably similar to my car, but most
bikes I see have suspension on one end or none at all.

When you are riding your bicycle, where is your largest mass? You
respond to bumps by flexing your muscles.

On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 08:48:53 +0100, TMS320, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:



Wrong.

Learn this, troll-feeding smartass: a troll is NEVER wrong as long as you
take his dumbest baits! tsk

On 4/06/21 8:03 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 08:48:53 +0100, TMS320, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:



Wrong.

Learn this, troll-feeding smartass: a troll is NEVER wrong as long as you
take his dumbest baits! tsk

If you hate Uncle Peter so much, why draw TMS or others into your vile
bile? Tell the Uncle yourself directly. Or are you a ****ty despicable
coward?
You can say what you like. You cannot tell others to say what you like.

On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 21:41:02 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
little cyclist, blabbered again:


Learn this, troll-feeding smartass: a troll is NEVER wrong as long as you
take his dumbest baits! tsk

If you hate Uncle Peter so much, why draw TMS or others into your vile
bile? Tell the Uncle yourself directly. Or are you a ****ty despicable
coward?
You can say what you like. You cannot tell others to say what you like.

You SICK senile swine of a retarded cyclist! I IGNORE the troll, you
demented troll lover!