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After the heart attack death of Mike
Janelle http://mikejanelle.com/ at age 40 over Thanksgiving, I think it's time to revisit is cycling dangerous to your health. We have seen many cases where pro-cyclists often die of heart attacks in the 50's and rarely make it past their 60's, I think someone, somewhere should really study what cycling does to the heart. Is it the strain on the heart, that eventually weakens it, why does cycling usually lead to a fatal heart attack? We owe to the fallen, to find the real answer. |
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On Jan 11, 5:41*am, Crescentius Vespasianus
wrote: After the heart attack death of Mike Janellehttp://mikejanelle.com/at age 40 over Thanksgiving, I think it's time to revisit is cycling dangerous to your health. *We have seen many cases where pro-cyclists often die of heart attacks in the 50's and rarely make it past their 60's, I think someone, somewhere should really study what cycling does to the heart. *Is it the strain on the heart, that eventually weakens it, why does cycling usually lead to a fatal heart attack? *We owe to the fallen, to find the real answer. Still looking for an excuse to give up cycling? |
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"Crescentius Vespasianus" wrote in message ... After the heart attack death of Mike Janelle http://mikejanelle.com/ at age 40 over Thanksgiving, I think it's time to revisit is cycling dangerous to your health. We have seen many cases where pro-cyclists often die of heart attacks in the 50's and rarely make it past their 60's, I think someone, somewhere should really study what cycling does to the heart. Is it the strain on the heart, that eventually weakens it, why does cycling usually lead to a fatal heart attack? We owe to the fallen, to find the real answer. I recently suffered a heart attack which should have killed me. It would have if it had not been for fellow bike riders who knew CPR. We had just finished a morning 8 mile ride and was sitting at a local coffee shop and I just collapsed, no warning, no typical chest pains, or any of the normal things associated with heart attacks. The only reasons I didn't have major brain damage according to my Dr. was I was in good shape and probably would have had the attack years ago if I had not been a rider. Don't believe that exercise, whether if be cycling, running, or just plain walking is not going to not help you. |
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DI wrote:
"Crescentius Vespasianus" wrote in message ... After the heart attack death of Mike Janelle http://mikejanelle.com/ at age 40 over Thanksgiving, I think it's time to revisit is cycling dangerous to your health. We have seen many cases where pro-cyclists often die of heart attacks in the 50's and rarely make it past their 60's, I think someone, somewhere should really study what cycling does to the heart. Is it the strain on the heart, that eventually weakens it, why does cycling usually lead to a fatal heart attack? We owe to the fallen, to find the real answer. I recently suffered a heart attack which should have killed me. It would have if it had not been for fellow bike riders who knew CPR. We had just finished a morning 8 mile ride and was sitting at a local coffee shop and I just collapsed, no warning, no typical chest pains, or any of the normal things associated with heart attacks. The only reasons I didn't have major brain damage according to my Dr. was I was in good shape and probably would have had the attack years ago if I had not been a rider. Don't believe that exercise, whether if be cycling, running, or just plain walking is not going to not help you. --------------- Moderate exercise is most likely ok, but what I'm talking about is uber-training, long endurance rides. I remember reading about the doomed antarctic expedition of Ernest Shackleton 1914-1916, when he and his men did some super human things to survive, but after they all were eventually rescued, and went back to England, none lived past their 50's. ------from wiki Despite the events of the Endurance Expedition, Shackleton traveled again to the Antarctic aboard Quest. Although some of his former crew members had not received all of their pay from the Endurance Expedition, many of them signed on with their former "boss". The trip's purpose was to circumnavigate Antarctica by sea. However, when the party arrived in Rio de Janeiro, Shackleton fell ill after a heart attack. Even so, he refused to return the ship to England or seek treatment, and Quest continued south.[27] On January 4, 1922, the ship arrived off the coast of South Georgia. In the early morning hours, expedition member Macklin was called to Shackleton's cabin and noticed that he was ill. Macklin suggested to Shackleton that he "take things easier in the future", to which the reply was: "You are always wanting me to give up something, what do you want me to give up now?" These would be the last words spoken by Sir Ernest Shackleton. A few moments later, at 2:50 a.m. on January 5, 1922, he suffered a fatal heart attack at the age of 47. His men offered to return his body to Britain; however a message was received from Shackleton's wife asking that he be buried in South Georgia. On March 5, 1922, Ernest Shackleton was buried at Grytviken, South Georgia.[27][28] ------------ These uber efforts, I think, suck the life out of you. |
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Crescentius Vespasianus wrote:
DI wrote: "Crescentius Vespasianus" wrote in message ... After the heart attack death of Mike Janelle http://mikejanelle.com/ at age 40 over Thanksgiving, I think it's time to revisit is cycling dangerous to your health. We have seen many cases where pro-cyclists often die of heart attacks in the 50's and rarely make it past their 60's, I think someone, somewhere should really study what cycling does to the heart. Is it the strain on the heart, that eventually weakens it, why does cycling usually lead to a fatal heart attack? We owe to the fallen, to find the real answer. I recently suffered a heart attack which should have killed me. It would have if it had not been for fellow bike riders who knew CPR. We had just finished a morning 8 mile ride and was sitting at a local coffee shop and I just collapsed, no warning, no typical chest pains, or any of the normal things associated with heart attacks. The only reasons I didn't have major brain damage according to my Dr. was I was in good shape and probably would have had the attack years ago if I had not been a rider. Don't believe that exercise, whether if be cycling, running, or just plain walking is not going to not help you. --------------- Moderate exercise is most likely ok, but what I'm talking about is uber-training, long endurance rides. I remember reading about the doomed antarctic expedition of Ernest Shackleton 1914-1916, when he and his men did some super human things to survive, but after they all were eventually rescued, and went back to England, none lived past their 50's. ------from wiki Despite the events of the Endurance Expedition, Shackleton traveled again to the Antarctic aboard Quest. Although some of his former crew members had not received all of their pay from the Endurance Expedition, many of them signed on with their former "boss". The trip's purpose was to circumnavigate Antarctica by sea. However, when the party arrived in Rio de Janeiro, Shackleton fell ill after a heart attack. Even so, he refused to return the ship to England or seek treatment, and Quest continued south.[27] On January 4, 1922, the ship arrived off the coast of South Georgia. In the early morning hours, expedition member Macklin was called to Shackleton's cabin and noticed that he was ill. Macklin suggested to Shackleton that he "take things easier in the future", to which the reply was: "You are always wanting me to give up something, what do you want me to give up now?" These would be the last words spoken by Sir Ernest Shackleton. A few moments later, at 2:50 a.m. on January 5, 1922, he suffered a fatal heart attack at the age of 47. His men offered to return his body to Britain; however a message was received from Shackleton's wife asking that he be buried in South Georgia. On March 5, 1922, Ernest Shackleton was buried at Grytviken, South Georgia.[27][28] ------------ These uber efforts, I think, suck the life out of you. You thought that professional sport was healthy? It's not. Not to speak of those silly expeditions. Lou |
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"Crescentius Vespasianus" wrote in message
... Moderate exercise is most likely ok, but what I'm talking about is uber-training, long endurance rides. I remember reading about the doomed antarctic expedition of Ernest Shackleton 1914-1916, when he and his men did some super human things to survive, but after they all were eventually rescued, and went back to England, none lived past their 50's. That may of course be skewed by the fact that a lot of them got sent to the trenches on their return. cheers, clive |
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Clive George wrote:
"Crescentius Vespasianus" wrote in message ... Moderate exercise is most likely ok, but what I'm talking about is uber-training, long endurance rides. I remember reading about the doomed antarctic expedition of Ernest Shackleton 1914-1916, when he and his men did some super human things to survive, but after they all were eventually rescued, and went back to England, none lived past their 50's. That may of course be skewed by the fact that a lot of them got sent to the trenches on their return. That and the flu pandemic might have had a factor, plus the life expectancy in 1916. -- David L. Johnson Some people used to claim that, if enough monkeys sat in front of enough typewriters and typed long enough, eventually one of them would reproduce the collected works of Shakespeare. The internet has proven this not to be the case. |
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"David L. Johnson" wrote in message ... Clive George wrote: "Crescentius Vespasianus" wrote in message ... Moderate exercise is most likely ok, but what I'm talking about is uber-training, long endurance rides. I remember reading about the doomed antarctic expedition of Ernest Shackleton 1914-1916, when he and his men did some super human things to survive, but after they all were eventually rescued, and went back to England, none lived past their 50's. That may of course be skewed by the fact that a lot of them got sent to the trenches on their return. That and the flu pandemic might have had a factor, plus the life expectancy in 1916. David L. Johnson The average life expectancy for a woman in the US in 1900 was 48 years. For men it was 47 years. http://www.elderweb.com/home/node/2838 Tuberculosis (consumption) was rampant especially among city dwellers and recent immigrants. Smallpox was still common. Industrial fatalities were a regular occurance because there were very few safety regulations. Many ailments caused by bacteria ended up being fatal because antibiotics hadn't been developed yet. A lot of people had weakened immune systems because of poor nuttriton and other causes. People died for many different reasons and a lot of them never lived long enough for heart disease to be an issue. Chas. |
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Crescentius Vespasianus wrote:
DI wrote: "Crescentius Vespasianus" wrote in message ... After the heart attack death of Mike Janelle http://mikejanelle.com/ at age 40 over Thanksgiving, I think it's time to revisit is cycling dangerous to your health. We have seen many cases where pro-cyclists often die of heart attacks in the 50's and rarely make it past their 60's, I think someone, somewhere should really study what cycling does to the heart. Is it the strain on the heart, that eventually weakens it, why does cycling usually lead to a fatal heart attack? We owe to the fallen, to find the real answer. I recently suffered a heart attack which should have killed me. It would have if it had not been for fellow bike riders who knew CPR. We had just finished a morning 8 mile ride and was sitting at a local coffee shop and I just collapsed, no warning, no typical chest pains, or any of the normal things associated with heart attacks. The only reasons I didn't have major brain damage according to my Dr. was I was in good shape and probably would have had the attack years ago if I had not been a rider. Don't believe that exercise, whether if be cycling, running, or just plain walking is not going to not help you. --------------- Moderate exercise is most likely ok, but what I'm talking about is uber-training, long endurance rides. I remember reading about the doomed antarctic expedition of Ernest Shackleton 1914-1916, when he and his men did some super human things to survive, but after they all were eventually rescued, and went back to England, none lived past their 50's. ------from wiki Despite the events of the Endurance Expedition, Shackleton traveled again to the Antarctic aboard Quest. Although some of his former crew members had not received all of their pay from the Endurance Expedition, many of them signed on with their former "boss". The trip's purpose was to circumnavigate Antarctica by sea. However, when the party arrived in Rio de Janeiro, Shackleton fell ill after a heart attack. Even so, he refused to return the ship to England or seek treatment, and Quest continued south.[27] On January 4, 1922, the ship arrived off the coast of South Georgia. In the early morning hours, expedition member Macklin was called to Shackleton's cabin and noticed that he was ill. Macklin suggested to Shackleton that he "take things easier in the future", to which the reply was: "You are always wanting me to give up something, what do you want me to give up now?" These would be the last words spoken by Sir Ernest Shackleton. A few moments later, at 2:50 a.m. on January 5, 1922, he suffered a fatal heart attack at the age of 47. His men offered to return his body to Britain; however a message was received from Shackleton's wife asking that he be buried in South Georgia. On March 5, 1922, Ernest Shackleton was buried at Grytviken, South Georgia.[27][28] ------------ These uber efforts, I think, suck the life out of you. Again you mistake the incident for the trend. I know/knew several Bataan survivors and what about Sir Edmund Hillary? They are more the norm. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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A Muzi wrote:
Crescentius Vespasianus wrote: DI wrote: "Crescentius Vespasianus" wrote in message ... After the heart attack death of Mike Janelle http://mikejanelle.com/ at age 40 over Thanksgiving, I think it's time to revisit is cycling dangerous to your health. We have seen many cases where pro-cyclists often die of heart attacks in the 50's and rarely make it past their 60's, I think someone, somewhere should really study what cycling does to the heart. Is it the strain on the heart, that eventually weakens it, why does cycling usually lead to a fatal heart attack? We owe to the fallen, to find the real answer. I recently suffered a heart attack which should have killed me. It would have if it had not been for fellow bike riders who knew CPR. We had just finished a morning 8 mile ride and was sitting at a local coffee shop and I just collapsed, no warning, no typical chest pains, or any of the normal things associated with heart attacks. The only reasons I didn't have major brain damage according to my Dr. was I was in good shape and probably would have had the attack years ago if I had not been a rider. Don't believe that exercise, whether if be cycling, running, or just plain walking is not going to not help you. --------------- Moderate exercise is most likely ok, but what I'm talking about is uber-training, long endurance rides. I remember reading about the doomed antarctic expedition of Ernest Shackleton 1914-1916, when he and his men did some super human things to survive, but after they all were eventually rescued, and went back to England, none lived past their 50's. ------from wiki Despite the events of the Endurance Expedition, Shackleton traveled again to the Antarctic aboard Quest. Although some of his former crew members had not received all of their pay from the Endurance Expedition, many of them signed on with their former "boss". The trip's purpose was to circumnavigate Antarctica by sea. However, when the party arrived in Rio de Janeiro, Shackleton fell ill after a heart attack. Even so, he refused to return the ship to England or seek treatment, and Quest continued south.[27] On January 4, 1922, the ship arrived off the coast of South Georgia. In the early morning hours, expedition member Macklin was called to Shackleton's cabin and noticed that he was ill. Macklin suggested to Shackleton that he "take things easier in the future", to which the reply was: "You are always wanting me to give up something, what do you want me to give up now?" These would be the last words spoken by Sir Ernest Shackleton. A few moments later, at 2:50 a.m. on January 5, 1922, he suffered a fatal heart attack at the age of 47. His men offered to return his body to Britain; however a message was received from Shackleton's wife asking that he be buried in South Georgia. On March 5, 1922, Ernest Shackleton was buried at Grytviken, South Georgia.[27][28] ------------ These uber efforts, I think, suck the life out of you. Again you mistake the incident for the trend. I know/knew several Bataan survivors and what about Sir Edmund Hillary? They are more the norm. You know he died yesterday at an age of 88? Lou |
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