Opinions Trek 1000

I'm interested in the Trek 1000
(http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2004/road/1000.jsp) for paved paths. I have
a Trek 800 Sport mountain bike now. I see these road bikes flying past me
all the time while just barely peddling. I figure it is more to do with
gearing than being in better shape.

I want a road bike for the purposes of going faster and reducing weight. I
figure its an overall better ride on the smooth fairly hilly paved paths in
my area.
The Trek 1000 is below $600 and looks very nice. That's a good price range
for me. I may end up changing the seat but then again, I've never sat on
the seat it comes with. The 1200 is a nicer bike and beside nicer overall
components, it has something important - carbon forks. However, the 1200's
candy apple red is a deal breaker. I'd rather spend less for less bike and
get the 1000's Pearl White/Baja Blue.

Some people have complained only about the Alex wheels and Shimano Sora
shifter -
http://www.epinions.com/bike-Bicycle...splay_~reviews.
I'm not even sure if I'd notice. Maybe on the shifter if its clunky. I have
this problem with my current mountain bike. I'm not sure it's clunky but
could probably be smoother. However, it isn't really a deal breaker for me.
But
what is there to notice on the wheels?

I'd like to hear any opinions on the Trek 1000. Overall, coming from an
average mountain bike (no shocks on fork), how will my Trek 1000 experience
be? If I could find a better bike in a similar color, I'd rather that but
haven't found anything

Also, what is the difference in a 10 vs 17 degree stem (Trek 1500/1200 use
17 and 1000 uses 10)?

The 1500,1200, 1000 compared:
http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2004/...ike3=1413 000

Thanks,
Brett

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:53:45 -0400, "Brett" wrote:


I'd like to hear any opinions on the Trek 1000. Overall, coming from an
average mountain bike (no shocks on fork), how will my Trek 1000 experience
be? If I could find a better bike in a similar color, I'd rather that but
haven't found anything

You appear to have 'looked' at the Trek 1000, but have you ridden one?

I suggest you go to you LBS and ride one. Also ride the next one up, and
ride the 1000C and the 1200C.

I'm 225 and ride a bike with no shocks and I don't notice any discomfort.
You do -not- need shocks. If you're overly sensitive to road bumps,
consider getting a wider tire, like a 700x32 or 700x35.

Again, test ride several models including those a step or two above what
you might get so you'll be able to compare. Make sure you pick the right
sized frame (try a couple sizes despite what the bikes shop may suggest -
your body will tell you what's best). Don't be in a hurry; ride for at
least 10 min per bike and 30 min on the final contenders - bike shops
expect this, so don't be shy. ;-)

-B

"Badger_South" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:53:45 -0400, "Brett" wrote:


I'd like to hear any opinions on the Trek 1000. Overall, coming from an
average mountain bike (no shocks on fork), how will my Trek 1000
experience
be? If I could find a better bike in a similar color, I'd rather that but
haven't found anything

You appear to have 'looked' at the Trek 1000, but have you ridden one?

I suggest you go to you LBS and ride one. Also ride the next one up, and
ride the 1000C and the 1200C.

Don't like the colors. Besides, I think the 1000/1200 will be funner. They
should be better performing bikes.


I'm 225 and ride a bike with no shocks and I don't notice any discomfort.
You do -not- need shocks. If you're overly sensitive to road bumps,
consider getting a wider tire, like a 700x32 or 700x35.

I'm not concerned about shocks on a road bike. Actually, I've never heard
of that.


Again, test ride several models including those a step or two above what
you might get so you'll be able to compare. Make sure you pick the right
sized frame (try a couple sizes despite what the bikes shop may suggest -
your body will tell you what's best). Don't be in a hurry; ride for at
least 10 min per bike and 30 min on the final contenders - bike shops
expect this, so don't be shy. ;-)

-B

I wasn't aware they'd let you take one out and ride it that long. Will
check.

Thanks,
Brett

Brett wrote:
"Badger_South" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:53:45 -0400, "Brett" wrote:


I'd like to hear any opinions on the Trek 1000. Overall, coming from an
average mountain bike (no shocks on fork), how will my Trek 1000
experience
be? If I could find a better bike in a similar color, I'd rather that but
haven't found anything

You appear to have 'looked' at the Trek 1000, but have you ridden one?

I suggest you go to you LBS and ride one. Also ride the next one up, and
ride the 1000C and the 1200C.


Don't like the colors. Besides, I think the 1000/1200 will be funner. They
should be better performing bikes.


I'm 225 and ride a bike with no shocks and I don't notice any discomfort.
You do -not- need shocks. If you're overly sensitive to road bumps,
consider getting a wider tire, like a 700x32 or 700x35.


I'm not concerned about shocks on a road bike. Actually, I've never heard
of that.


Again, test ride several models including those a step or two above what
you might get so you'll be able to compare. Make sure you pick the right
sized frame (try a couple sizes despite what the bikes shop may suggest -
your body will tell you what's best). Don't be in a hurry; ride for at
least 10 min per bike and 30 min on the final contenders - bike shops
expect this, so don't be shy. ;-)

-B


I wasn't aware they'd let you take one out and ride it that long. Will
check.

check out: http://www.chainreaction.com/roadbiketestrides.htm

try to include a hill in your test ride.

i started looking at 1500/1200, then ended up with a 2100 and been happy
about it.

if you are first priority is speed, consider track riding ie, if you are
close to a velodrome.

+ravi



Thanks,
Brett

"Ravi" wrote in message
news:1096171597.62253@sj-nntpcache-3...

Brett wrote:
"Badger_South" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:53:45 -0400, "Brett" wrote:


I'd like to hear any opinions on the Trek 1000. Overall, coming from an
average mountain bike (no shocks on fork), how will my Trek 1000
experience
be? If I could find a better bike in a similar color, I'd rather that
but
haven't found anything

You appear to have 'looked' at the Trek 1000, but have you ridden one?

I suggest you go to you LBS and ride one. Also ride the next one up, and
ride the 1000C and the 1200C.


Don't like the colors. Besides, I think the 1000/1200 will be funner.
They should be better performing bikes.


I'm 225 and ride a bike with no shocks and I don't notice any discomfort.
You do -not- need shocks. If you're overly sensitive to road bumps,
consider getting a wider tire, like a 700x32 or 700x35.


I'm not concerned about shocks on a road bike. Actually, I've never
heard of that.


Again, test ride several models including those a step or two above what
you might get so you'll be able to compare. Make sure you pick the right
sized frame (try a couple sizes despite what the bikes shop may suggest -
your body will tell you what's best). Don't be in a hurry; ride for at
least 10 min per bike and 30 min on the final contenders - bike shops
expect this, so don't be shy. ;-)

-B


I wasn't aware they'd let you take one out and ride it that long. Will
check.

check out: http://www.chainreaction.com/roadbiketestrides.htm

try to include a hill in your test ride.

i started looking at 1500/1200, then ended up with a 2100 and been happy
about it.


Then there is reality. $800 is about the max I will go.

Brett

The Trek 1000 is below $600 and looks very nice. That's a good price
range
for me. I may end up changing the seat but then again, I've never sat on
the seat it comes with. The 1200 is a nicer bike and beside nicer overall
components, it has something important - carbon forks. However, the
1200's candy apple red is a deal breaker. I'd rather spend less for less
bike and get the 1000's Pearl White/Baja Blue.

Brett: The '05 TREK 1000 *has* carbon forks, and is still under $600.
Different colors, but still nice. The biggest advantage to the 1200 is in
the shifters; many prefer the Tiagra/105/Ultegra/DuraAce style of shifter to
the Sora (Sora has a lever for the thumb for shifting to a smaller sprocket
or chainring, while the others have an inside & outside lever that both
operate in the same fashion... not sure I explained that very well though!).

Some people have complained only about the Alex wheels

We've had very few problems with the wheels, but his may vary from shop to
shop. We pre-stress the wheels before they go out the door, and I have a
feeling this has a lot to do with how long they last.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


"Brett" wrote in message
...
I'm interested in the Trek 1000
(http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2004/road/1000.jsp) for paved paths. I
have
a Trek 800 Sport mountain bike now. I see these road bikes flying past me
all the time while just barely peddling. I figure it is more to do with
gearing than being in better shape.

I want a road bike for the purposes of going faster and reducing weight.
I
figure its an overall better ride on the smooth fairly hilly paved paths
in my area.
The Trek 1000 is below $600 and looks very nice. That's a good price
range
for me. I may end up changing the seat but then again, I've never sat on
the seat it comes with. The 1200 is a nicer bike and beside nicer overall
components, it has something important - carbon forks. However, the
1200's candy apple red is a deal breaker. I'd rather spend less for less
bike and get the 1000's Pearl White/Baja Blue.

Some people have complained only about the Alex wheels and Shimano Sora
shifter -
http://www.epinions.com/bike-Bicycle...splay_~reviews.
I'm not even sure if I'd notice. Maybe on the shifter if its clunky. I
have this problem with my current mountain bike. I'm not sure it's clunky
but could probably be smoother. However, it isn't really a deal breaker
for me. But
what is there to notice on the wheels?

I'd like to hear any opinions on the Trek 1000. Overall, coming from an
average mountain bike (no shocks on fork), how will my Trek 1000
experience be? If I could find a better bike in a similar color, I'd
rather that but haven't found anything

Also, what is the difference in a 10 vs 17 degree stem (Trek 1500/1200 use
17 and 1000 uses 10)?

The 1500,1200, 1000 compared:
http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2004/...ike3=1413 000

Thanks,
Brett

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 06:55:52 GMT, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:

Some people have complained only about the Alex wheels

We've had very few problems with the wheels, but his may vary from shop to
shop. We pre-stress the wheels before they go out the door, and I have a
feeling this has a lot to do with how long they last.

I have cheap Alex wheels on my utility bike (a Giant OCR3). I've found that
they go out of true easily if I treat them badly, but otherwise they're ok.

--
bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:34:14 -0400, Brett wrote:

I don't quiet understand why but my Trek 800 Sport (under $200) mountain
bike seems to blow away the $600 1000 road bike. I haven't had the problems
experienced with a 1000 such as:

- bad breaking (mine stops very quickly)
- chain falling off
- spokes popping out

Whether you suffer from those "problems experienced" depends largely
on your weight, how you ride and how well you maintain the bike. Since
road bikes are designed for performance rather than durability, the margin
of reliability is less, just as it is on a high-performance car.

Seriously, are you trolling with your "blow away" claim? You started this
thread by complaining that roadies blow /you/ away, after all.

--
bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo

"Michael Warner" wrote in message
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:34:14 -0400, Brett wrote:

I don't quiet understand why but my Trek 800 Sport (under $200) mountain
bike seems to blow away the $600 1000 road bike. I haven't had the
problems
experienced with a 1000 such as:

- bad breaking (mine stops very quickly)
- chain falling off
- spokes popping out

Whether you suffer from those "problems experienced" depends largely
on your weight, how you ride and how well you maintain the bike. Since
road bikes are designed for performance rather than durability, the margin
of reliability is less, just as it is on a high-performance car.

Seriously, are you trolling with your "blow away" claim? You started this
thread by complaining that roadies blow /you/ away, after all.

I'm strictly referring to maintenance and durability. I thought that was
implied. I have no doubt a Trek 1000 will smoothly pass my Trek 800 anyday.

Brett

"Brett" wrote in message
...
I'm interested in the Trek 1000
(http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2004/road/1000.jsp) for paved paths. I
have
a Trek 800 Sport mountain bike now. I see these road bikes flying past me
all the time while just barely peddling. I figure it is more to do with
gearing than being in better shape.

I want a road bike for the purposes of going faster and reducing weight.
I
figure its an overall better ride on the smooth fairly hilly paved paths
in
my area.
The Trek 1000 is below $600 and looks very nice. That's a good price
range
for me. I may end up changing the seat but then again, I've never sat on
the seat it comes with. The 1200 is a nicer bike and beside nicer overall
components, it has something important - carbon forks. However, the
1200's
candy apple red is a deal breaker. I'd rather spend less for less bike
and
get the 1000's Pearl White/Baja Blue.

Some people have complained only about the Alex wheels and Shimano Sora
shifter -

http://www.epinions.com/bike-Bicycle...splay_~reviews.
I'm not even sure if I'd notice. Maybe on the shifter if its clunky. I
have
this problem with my current mountain bike. I'm not sure it's clunky but
could probably be smoother. However, it isn't really a deal breaker for
me.
But
what is there to notice on the wheels?

I'd like to hear any opinions on the Trek 1000. Overall, coming from an
average mountain bike (no shocks on fork), how will my Trek 1000
experience
be? If I could find a better bike in a similar color, I'd rather that but
haven't found anything

Also, what is the difference in a 10 vs 17 degree stem (Trek 1500/1200 use
17 and 1000 uses 10)?

The 1500,1200, 1000 compared:

http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2004/...ike3=1413 000

Thanks,
Brett



When I was looking for a decent road bike at the start of the season here
(mid-May), I went to my LBS with my mind set on a Trek 1200. I thought the
1000 was too low end component-wise and the 1500 was more than I wanted to
spend (I was looking to go around $800).

But after testing out both the 1200 and 1500, I really liked the 1500
better, hard to say why exactly, but anyway, if your LBS is a registered
Trek dealer, they can do some pretty good pricing...the list on the 1500 was
$1099 and the shop had it marked down to $999. After riding the 1200 and
1500, I asked the salesguy if $999 was the best he could do. He said, "take
it for another spin, I'll call Trek and see"...whether that was BS or not I
don't know, but he was still on the phone when I got back and after he hung
up he said he'd let me have it for $849.

I was happy, he was happy, so I guess it was a win-win. After 30 minutes of
him fitting the bike to me I took it home and I've put about 800 miles on it
so far...I get a free tune-up next spring. All-in-all I'd heartily
recommend the 1500.