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The important thing is to identify responsible, rational liberalism,
and conservatism, as distinct from irrational, gut-response, good guys v. bad guys liberalism and conservatism. I'm an extreme liberal--have been most of my life. But it seems to me that Mark is a guy I could have a great conversation with. When such conversations across ideological lines stop happening, we'll be in even worse shape as a country than we are now. |
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Dennis P. Harris wrote: -- Clip all the relevant parts __- (and a someone managing 500+ units of rental housing that includes 3 trailer courts, i deal with cops a lot, usually trying to help them arrest one of our tenants). Does this not annoy the tenants a bit? I would think that it makes collecting the rent a bit dicey |
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Mark Hickey wrote: wrote: We need radio personalities that responsibly control their druggie tendencies, instead of fueling the illicit drug market, then using their influence to get little slaps on the wrist. Does that apply to Senators, Frank? Yes, absolutely. Senators from any party, and Independents. - Frank Krygowski |
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Bob wrote: Failing that, they could stop pretending to be something other than what they are- entertainers. The title of worst offender in that respect is currently being contested with Bill Mahr and Michael Moore as the frontrunners. I'd put Mahr in the lead because he has a wider audience. My impression is that, despite disagreements from certain right-side-of-the-aisle types, Limbaugh and those he benefits think of him as a useful political tool, NOT just an entertainer. FWIW, I think exactly the same about Michael Moore. I think both those guys believe they are spreading the Truth, and I think there's no question they are using their respective pulpits to work for chosen candidates. IMO, Bill Maher (is that the correct spelling?) is different in two ways. Of the three, I think he's the one who most considers himself an entertainer. And of the three, I think he's the one least bound to typical left-right ideologies. (It's also my guess that he's got 15 IQ points on the other two, but that's probably beside the point.) Admittedly, I'm no expert on any of the three. (Refer to what I said about how I get my news.) But I've seen Maher make iconoclastic statements savaging alternate sides of the aisle. If he's connected with a party, it would be the Iconoclast party. - Frank Krygowski |
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Bob wrote:
wrote: Bob wrote: All I'd add is that I wish the entertainers/social critics on both the left and the right apply the same concepts. Of course, what I'd really like is if all of them- Limbaugh, Mahr, O'Reilly, Franken, et al- would just close their mouths until they open their minds but that's asking too much. You know this, but ... it's a gig. They're making heaps of ca$h. End of story. That's true of course. It's also the reason that I said asking them to shut up and think would be too much to ask. I should amend my statement though. What I would really like is if all the pundits on both ends of the political spectrum would shut up and think, not about pandering to their audience, but about what's fair and honest. Failing that, they could stop pretending to be something other than what they are- entertainers. The title of worst offender in that respect is currently being contested with Bill Mahr and Michael Moore as the frontrunners. I'd put Mahr in the lead because he has a wider audience. Regards, Bob Hunt What, you wouldn't put Limbaugh behind bars for blatant hypocrisy? An anti-drug, drug addict, no less. How much else can we believe from him? Of course that is true for all talk show hosts, ratings and not truth, but do they all sell out at some point? Probably, when that big check is flashed in front of them to part with their true values. Bill Baka |
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Mark Hickey wrote: wrote: We need radio personalities that responsibly control their druggie tendencies, instead of fueling the illicit drug market, then using their influence to get little slaps on the wrist. Does that apply to Senators, Frank? Yes, absolutely. Senators from any party, and Independents. - Frank Krygowski Do drunk Republicans in high office shooting each other count? Worse yet, will we re-elect some of the offenders who got caught? Kennedy has been in ever since Chappaquidick (sp?) so it applies to both parties equally, just that being in the majority helps. I wonder if Bush makes decisions after a few rounds of drinks. "Iraq, hiccup, yeah, let's go get 'em, hiccup.". Bill Baka |
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On 20 May 2006 10:46:58 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc,
" wrote: Dennis P. Harris wrote: -- Clip all the relevant parts __- (and a someone managing 500+ units of rental housing that includes 3 trailer courts, i deal with cops a lot, usually trying to help them arrest one of our tenants). Does this not annoy the tenants a bit? I would think that it makes collecting the rent a bit dicey if they are getting arrested, it's usually for doing something that we would evict them for, like assault or drug dealing. we also have to ask them to help with trespass cases, where we have banned someone from the property. plus the usual abandoned vehicles, drunks who want to sleep it off on the terrace, etc. |
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