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How to fix bent cassette teeth?
I don't know how it happened, honestly, I was just riding along. Well,
ok hammering a sweet section of trail, but there was no crash or clang. I finished the section of trail, shifted up to an easier gear to start the next climb and my chain begins to leap of the cassette. I thought great, I've got something caught in the teeth or in the rear mech, but no, on closer examination I've managed to bend about 5 teeth, on the 4th gear, out by about 2-3mm. Not alot, but enough so the chain won't sit in that gear and it get's pushed off the next gear and so I'm out 2 gears. How do I fix that? There's not enough room to bend it back into shape and it's not a cassette I can disassemble. So I'm left with the gentle tap-tap of a pin hammer, not easy, replacing the cassette, expensive, or hopefully someone has a solution. laters, marz |
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How to fix bent cassette teeth?
Marz wrote: I don't know how it happened, honestly, I was just riding along. Well, ok hammering a sweet section of trail, but there was no crash or clang. I finished the section of trail, shifted up to an easier gear to start the next climb and my chain begins to leap of the cassette. I thought great, I've got something caught in the teeth or in the rear mech, but no, on closer examination I've managed to bend about 5 teeth, on the 4th gear, out by about 2-3mm. Not alot, but enough so the chain won't sit in that gear and it get's pushed off the next gear and so I'm out 2 gears. How do I fix that? There's not enough room to bend it back into shape and it's not a cassette I can disassemble. So I'm left with the gentle tap-tap of a pin hammer, not easy, replacing the cassette, expensive, or hopefully someone has a solution. laters, marz No real way to fix but there are many casette 'levels', and the less expensive ones are not necessarily going to wear faster..mostly just less 'pretty' and 'heavier'...least expensive cogset and chain is a good way to go...these are consumables afterall... |
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How to fix bent cassette teeth?
On 14 Sep 2006 05:26:00 -0700, Marz wrote:
How do I fix that? There's not enough room to bend it back into shape and it's not a cassette I can disassemble. So I'm left with the gentle tap-tap of a pin hammer, not easy, replacing the cassette, expensive, or hopefully someone has a solution. I would try heavy pliers, but chances are that in getting the tips of the teeth back into line, you're going to distort the cog to the point where it'll interfere with the chain on the next one. It's hard to see how you could support the cog while pushing its teeth straight, unless you had steel spacers you could wedge between each cog from that one to the largest. -- Home page: http://members.westnet.com.au/mvw |
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How to fix bent cassette teeth?
Marz wrote: How do I fix that? There's not enough room to bend it back into shape and it's not a cassette I can disassemble. So I'm left with the gentle tap-tap of a pin hammer, not easy, replacing the cassette, expensive, or hopefully someone has a solution. I bent a cog last fall and rode the bike through most of the winter, re-bending it as required. When it happened on the trail I would just grab a rock and bash it straight. Occasionally at home I used a nail punch and hammer. That lasted for a month or two of riding until my primitive metal working techniques finally snapped off the teeth. Fortunately, it was an the largest cog so I just didn't use it for the rest of the winter. Now that I think about it, since I was riding on snow, I wasn't able to put a lot of load on that cog. Riding under normal conditions, it might not have held up at all under that treatment. Regards, Anthony |
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How to fix bent cassette teeth?
Marz wrote: I don't know how it happened, honestly, I was just riding along. Well, ok hammering a sweet section of trail, but there was no crash or clang. I finished the section of trail, shifted up to an easier gear to start the next climb and my chain begins to leap of the cassette. I thought great, I've got something caught in the teeth or in the rear mech, but no, on closer examination I've managed to bend about 5 teeth, on the 4th gear, out by about 2-3mm. Not alot, but enough so the chain won't sit in that gear and it get's pushed off the next gear and so I'm out 2 gears. How do I fix that? There's not enough room to bend it back into shape and it's not a cassette I can disassemble. So I'm left with the gentle tap-tap of a pin hammer, not easy, replacing the cassette, expensive, or hopefully someone has a solution. laters, marz It's not clear if you've checked this, but many cassettes are easy to disassemble completely because they're held together by long, skinny bolts. Many more have rivets which can have their heads ground off to take apart the cassette. The rivets are for convenience and structurally unimportant; it'll work just as well if all the cogs are loose on the freehub body. If you can get your cassette apart in this way, it would probably be much easier to try straightening the teeth. I haven't done this, but I might try clamping the cog with bent teeth in a vise with smooth jaws so that one bent tooth at a time was poking up above the jaws, and bend them with pliers. (Most or all spidered cassettes wouldn't let you do this very easily because the cogs are riveted onto the spider). It's important that the cog not get bent into a slight potato-chip shape, so I would be careful with your approach. |
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How to fix bent cassette teeth?
Michael Warner wrote:
On 14 Sep 2006 05:26:00 -0700, Marz wrote: How do I fix that? There's not enough room to bend it back into shape and it's not a cassette I can disassemble. So I'm left with the gentle tap-tap of a pin hammer, not easy, replacing the cassette, expensive, or hopefully someone has a solution. I would try heavy pliers, but chances are that in getting the tips of the teeth back into line, you're going to distort the cog to the point where it'll interfere with the chain on the next one. It's hard to see how you could support the cog while pushing its teeth straight, unless you had steel spacers you could wedge between each cog from that one to the largest. I'd try a hefty screwdriver inserted down to the carrier, wedging the bent portion back in the direction it belongs. This will place the force on the same area that was used to bend the cog initially, so might result in a fairly good fix. The good news is that it doesn't matter if the "inside" bits of the cog are straight - just get the teeth reasonably in line and you should be good to go. I've also fixed bent cogs on cassettes with reomoveable cogs - just laid 'em on the garage floor and pounded 'em straight with a hammer. Never had a problem with one after repair. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $795 ti frame |
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On 14 Sep 2006 05:26:00 -0700, "Marz" wrote:
I don't know how it happened, honestly, I was just riding along. Well, ok hammering a sweet section of trail, but there was no crash or clang. I finished the section of trail, shifted up to an easier gear to start the next climb and my chain begins to leap of the cassette. I thought great, I've got something caught in the teeth or in the rear mech, but no, on closer examination I've managed to bend about 5 teeth, on the 4th gear, out by about 2-3mm. Not alot, but enough so the chain won't sit in that gear and it get's pushed off the next gear and so I'm out 2 gears. How do I fix that? There's not enough room to bend it back into shape and it's not a cassette I can disassemble. So I'm left with the gentle tap-tap of a pin hammer, not easy, replacing the cassette, expensive, or hopefully someone has a solution. Virtually all cassettes can be disassembled if you're persistent enough and equipped with the proper tools. A Dremel can be invaluable for this; grind off the heads of the rivets on the back side, and the thing can usually be pried apart. Once you have the bent sprocket in hand, lay it on a suitalbe durface (an anvil is best) and gently tap the teeth back flat with a hammer. Don't whach them too hard or you'll flatten them out, making them wider and thinner in the process; a Bad Thing. You just want to bend them back close to where they started. Alternate approach, assuming the teeth are bento toward the smaller sprockets: Use a big pair of slip-joint pliers ("water pump pliers", like http://tinyurl.com/pwkqx) with the lower jaw behind the big sprocket and the upper one reaching in to the tooth to push it back over. Other methods can be devised depending on the tools at hand. These are just the two that occurred to me off the top of my head. -- Typoes are a feature, not a bug. Some gardening required to reply via email. Words processed in a facility that contains nuts. |
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Werehatrack wrote: On 14 Sep 2006 05:26:00 -0700, "Marz" wrote: I don't know how it happened, honestly, I was just riding along. Well, ok hammering a sweet section of trail, but there was no crash or clang. I finished the section of trail, shifted up to an easier gear to start the next climb and my chain begins to leap of the cassette. I thought great, I've got something caught in the teeth or in the rear mech, but no, on closer examination I've managed to bend about 5 teeth, on the 4th gear, out by about 2-3mm. Not alot, but enough so the chain won't sit in that gear and it get's pushed off the next gear and so I'm out 2 gears. How do I fix that? There's not enough room to bend it back into shape and it's not a cassette I can disassemble. So I'm left with the gentle tap-tap of a pin hammer, not easy, replacing the cassette, expensive, or hopefully someone has a solution. Virtually all cassettes can be disassembled if you're persistent enough and equipped with the proper tools. Are you including cassettes with the cogs riveted onto their spiders/carriers in this? Any tips on getting the cogs attached again? |
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How to fix bent cassette teeth?
Werehatrack wrote: On 14 Sep 2006 05:26:00 -0700, "Marz" wrote: I don't know how it happened, honestly, I was just riding along. Well, ok hammering a sweet section of trail, but there was no crash or clang. I finished the section of trail, shifted up to an easier gear to start the next climb and my chain begins to leap of the cassette. I thought great, I've got something caught in the teeth or in the rear mech, but no, on closer examination I've managed to bend about 5 teeth, on the 4th gear, out by about 2-3mm. Not alot, but enough so the chain won't sit in that gear and it get's pushed off the next gear and so I'm out 2 gears. How do I fix that? There's not enough room to bend it back into shape and it's not a cassette I can disassemble. So I'm left with the gentle tap-tap of a pin hammer, not easy, replacing the cassette, expensive, or hopefully someone has a solution. Virtually all cassettes can be disassembled if you're persistent enough and equipped with the proper tools. A Dremel can be invaluable for this; grind off the heads of the rivets on the back side, and the thing can usually be pried apart. Once you have the bent sprocket in hand, lay it on a suitalbe durface (an anvil is best) and gently tap the teeth back flat with a hammer. Don't whach them too hard or you'll flatten them out, making them wider and thinner in the process; a Bad Thing. You just want to bend them back close to where they started. Alternate approach, assuming the teeth are bento toward the smaller sprockets: Use a big pair of slip-joint pliers ("water pump pliers", like http://tinyurl.com/pwkqx) with the lower jaw behind the big sprocket and the upper one reaching in to the tooth to push it back over. Other methods can be devised depending on the tools at hand. These are just the two that occurred to me off the top of my head. -- Typoes are a feature, not a bug. Some gardening required to reply via email. Words processed in a facility that contains nuts. Cheers for all the advice. It's a sram cassette with a spider and rivots and it's not possible to disassemble. In the end I removed the cassette from the wheel, placed it flat on the floor and applied 222 pounds of fat gut through a large screw driver to each tooth that was bent out. Couldn't get it perfect, but good enough that the chain didn't skip. I've not seen a cassette that's made to disassemble in years. Does anyone else recall the cassettes that were held together with three long bolts. You could strip them down, cleaning each small spocket and even build your own custom combination of spockets. Both Shimano and Sram seem to favour rivoted spiders. Laters, Marz |
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How to fix bent cassette teeth?
Marz wrote: Werehatrack wrote: On 14 Sep 2006 05:26:00 -0700, "Marz" wrote: I don't know how it happened, honestly, I was just riding along. Well, ok hammering a sweet section of trail, but there was no crash or clang. I finished the section of trail, shifted up to an easier gear to start the next climb and my chain begins to leap of the cassette. I thought great, I've got something caught in the teeth or in the rear mech, but no, on closer examination I've managed to bend about 5 teeth, on the 4th gear, out by about 2-3mm. Not alot, but enough so the chain won't sit in that gear and it get's pushed off the next gear and so I'm out 2 gears. How do I fix that? There's not enough room to bend it back into shape and it's not a cassette I can disassemble. So I'm left with the gentle tap-tap of a pin hammer, not easy, replacing the cassette, expensive, or hopefully someone has a solution. Virtually all cassettes can be disassembled if you're persistent enough and equipped with the proper tools. A Dremel can be invaluable for this; grind off the heads of the rivets on the back side, and the thing can usually be pried apart. Once you have the bent sprocket in hand, lay it on a suitalbe durface (an anvil is best) and gently tap the teeth back flat with a hammer. Don't whach them too hard or you'll flatten them out, making them wider and thinner in the process; a Bad Thing. You just want to bend them back close to where they started. Alternate approach, assuming the teeth are bento toward the smaller sprockets: Use a big pair of slip-joint pliers ("water pump pliers", like http://tinyurl.com/pwkqx) with the lower jaw behind the big sprocket and the upper one reaching in to the tooth to push it back over. Other methods can be devised depending on the tools at hand. These are just the two that occurred to me off the top of my head. Cheers for all the advice. It's a sram cassette with a spider and rivots and it's not possible to disassemble. In the end I removed the cassette from the wheel, placed it flat on the floor and applied 222 pounds of fat gut through a large screw driver to each tooth that was bent out. Couldn't get it perfect, but good enough that the chain didn't skip. I've not seen a cassette that's made to disassemble in years. Does anyone else recall the cassettes that were held together with three long bolts. You could strip them down, cleaning each small spocket and even build your own custom combination of spockets. Both Shimano and Sram seem to favour rivoted spiders. Only higher end cassettes are spidered. There are still a good number of options for ones that aren't. |
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