Tailbox for Bacchetta Aero

A quick search suggests this topic has only been touched on here
obliquely in the past, my apologies if I have missed a previous
thread...

The RCN article on the Aero last year suggested that Rich Pinto was
thinking along the lines of doing a tailbox for the Aero. Has
anything been done in this area? Anybody done their own? Could a
standard M5 carbon lowracer tailbox fit, given that the M5 seat is
presumably the same as on the Aero? I think the M5 website suggests
their tailbox (not the luggage one, but the racing one) weighs about a
kg, and adds quite a bit of speed on the flat and downhill per their
own tests.

Thanks for your thoughts/experiences.

Nathan

"Nathan Congdon" skrev...

The RCN article on the Aero last year suggested that Rich Pinto was
thinking along the lines of doing a tailbox for the Aero. Has
anything been done in this area? Anybody done their own? Could a
standard M5 carbon lowracer tailbox fit, given that the M5 seat is
presumably the same as on the Aero? I think the M5 website suggests
their tailbox (not the luggage one, but the racing one) weighs about a
kg, and adds quite a bit of speed on the flat and downhill per their
own tests.

At the risk of sounding like Tom a tailfairing is an aerodynamic shell
while a tailbox can actually carry something and still be aero (but heavier). :-)

The M5 tailfairing does indeed weigh about a kilo and its sweet to have.
I got one on my Velokraft. Finaggled an attachment to the seat using
aluminium L-profiles I popriveted together. M5 mounting kit came without
any instructions so I gave up on that pretty fast. It was for their lowracer anyway.
Bear in mind this fairing gives you absolutely no space for tools
or extra clothes etc. unless you rig something yourself. I made a little room
for tools, lock and pump in the "headhump" but I could do with some more
sometimes. Keeps weight down though. Its not as tall as the Optima tailfairing
so works best with a reclined seat.

Just my 2 cents. I know some people have them over in the US.

Mikael

"Nathan Congdon" skrev...

The RCN article on the Aero last year suggested that Rich Pinto was
thinking along the lines of doing a tailbox for the Aero. Has
anything been done in this area? Anybody done their own? Could a
standard M5 carbon lowracer tailbox fit, given that the M5 seat is
presumably the same as on the Aero? I think the M5 website suggests
their tailbox (not the luggage one, but the racing one) weighs about a
kg, and adds quite a bit of speed on the flat and downhill per their
own tests.

At the risk of sounding like Tom a tailfairing is an aerodynamic shell
while a tailbox can actually carry something and still be aero (but heavier). :-)

The M5 tailfairing does indeed weigh about a kilo and its sweet to have.
I got one on my Velokraft. Finaggled an attachment to the seat using
aluminium L-profiles I popriveted together. M5 mounting kit came without
any instructions so I gave up on that pretty fast. It was for their lowracer anyway.
Bear in mind this fairing gives you absolutely no space for tools
or extra clothes etc. unless you rig something yourself. I made a little room
for tools, lock and pump in the "headhump" but I could do with some more
sometimes. Keeps weight down though. Its not as tall as the Optima tailfairing
so works best with a reclined seat.

Just my 2 cents. I know some people have them over in the US.

Mikael

In article , says...

"Nathan Congdon" skrev...

The RCN article on the Aero last year suggested that Rich Pinto was
thinking along the lines of doing a tailbox for the Aero. Has
anything been done in this area? Anybody done their own? Could a
standard M5 carbon lowracer tailbox fit, given that the M5 seat is
presumably the same as on the Aero? I think the M5 website suggests
their tailbox (not the luggage one, but the racing one) weighs about a
kg, and adds quite a bit of speed on the flat and downhill per their
own tests.

At the risk of sounding like Tom a tailfairing is an aerodynamic shell
while a tailbox can actually carry something and still be aero (but heavier). :-)

The M5 tailfairing does indeed weigh about a kilo and its sweet to have.
I got one on my Velokraft. Finaggled an attachment to the seat using
aluminium L-profiles I popriveted together. M5 mounting kit came without
any instructions so I gave up on that pretty fast. It was for their lowracer anyway.
Bear in mind this fairing gives you absolutely no space for tools
or extra clothes etc. unless you rig something yourself. I made a little room
for tools, lock and pump in the "headhump" but I could do with some more
sometimes. Keeps weight down though. Its not as tall as the Optima tailfairing
so works best with a reclined seat.

Just my 2 cents. I know some people have them over in the US.

And as I recall, they sure make changing a rear flat an experience to remember.

http://www.clee.org/Denmark/images/WebSize/IMG_0700.JPG

--

Cletus D. Lee
Bacchetta Giro
Lightning Voyager
http://www.clee.org
- Bellaire, TX USA -

In article , says...

"Nathan Congdon" skrev...

The RCN article on the Aero last year suggested that Rich Pinto was
thinking along the lines of doing a tailbox for the Aero. Has
anything been done in this area? Anybody done their own? Could a
standard M5 carbon lowracer tailbox fit, given that the M5 seat is
presumably the same as on the Aero? I think the M5 website suggests
their tailbox (not the luggage one, but the racing one) weighs about a
kg, and adds quite a bit of speed on the flat and downhill per their
own tests.

At the risk of sounding like Tom a tailfairing is an aerodynamic shell
while a tailbox can actually carry something and still be aero (but heavier). :-)

The M5 tailfairing does indeed weigh about a kilo and its sweet to have.
I got one on my Velokraft. Finaggled an attachment to the seat using
aluminium L-profiles I popriveted together. M5 mounting kit came without
any instructions so I gave up on that pretty fast. It was for their lowracer anyway.
Bear in mind this fairing gives you absolutely no space for tools
or extra clothes etc. unless you rig something yourself. I made a little room
for tools, lock and pump in the "headhump" but I could do with some more
sometimes. Keeps weight down though. Its not as tall as the Optima tailfairing
so works best with a reclined seat.

Just my 2 cents. I know some people have them over in the US.

And as I recall, they sure make changing a rear flat an experience to remember.

http://www.clee.org/Denmark/images/WebSize/IMG_0700.JPG

--

Cletus D. Lee
Bacchetta Giro
Lightning Voyager
http://www.clee.org
- Bellaire, TX USA -

"Cletus Lee" skrev

And as I recall, they sure make changing a rear flat an experience to remember.

Nope, not really. I could have taken the wheel off.
However I prefer leaving it on to avoid hassle with gears afterwards.

Mikael

"Cletus Lee" skrev

And as I recall, they sure make changing a rear flat an experience to remember.

Nope, not really. I could have taken the wheel off.
However I prefer leaving it on to avoid hassle with gears afterwards.

Mikael

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:09:49 -0500, Cletus Lee
wrote:

And as I recall, they sure make changing a rear flat an experience to remember.

Maybe on a lowracer. On a highracer a tailbox sits above the rear
wheel, so it shouldn't interfere with the rear wheel.


Ken Kobayashi

http://solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jp/kobayashi/personal/

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:09:49 -0500, Cletus Lee
wrote:

And as I recall, they sure make changing a rear flat an experience to remember.

Maybe on a lowracer. On a highracer a tailbox sits above the rear
wheel, so it shouldn't interfere with the rear wheel.


Ken Kobayashi

http://solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jp/kobayashi/personal/

I made a coroplast tail fairing/box for my dual 650C Aerocycle. It
weighs about 2.5 lbs including mounting hardware. Since there is a
horizontal divider inside, it functions as a tail box holding my
hydration bladder and spare clothing, which is front loaded by where
it is wider than the M5 seat.

It seems I get that 1 to 1 1/2 mph speed gain that is usually
discussed, and most of the DF riders I hang out with freely complain
about the lack of draft they find behind me:)

But best of all, I got the Ed Gin seal of approval for 'one of the
nicest coroplast tail fairings he's seen'.

I'd like to have a nice CF tail fairing, but it's tough to beat the
$12 materials charge to make a coro one.

Bruce Shannahoff
Los Angeles


A quick search suggests this topic has only been touched on here
obliquely in the past, my apologies if I have missed a previous
thread...

The RCN article on the Aero last year suggested that Rich Pinto was
thinking along the lines of doing a tailbox for the Aero. Has
anything been done in this area? Anybody done their own? Could a
standard M5 carbon lowracer tailbox fit, given that the M5 seat is
presumably the same as on the Aero? I think the M5 website suggests
their tailbox (not the luggage one, but the racing one) weighs about a
kg, and adds quite a bit of speed on the flat and downhill per their
own tests.

Thanks for your thoughts/experiences.

Nathan