Blame the faulty drivers of dangerous machinery. 4WDs most dangerouson road

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Graeme Dods wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:02:30 +1000, MichaelB wrote:


I dont know about your crappy country but here in the UK all new cars
must have ABS by law.


Which law would that be? "Road Vehicle Regulations 2001" where they talked
about introducing it to conform with EC regulations, but that was only for
vehicles over 3,500kg. Not many non-commercial vehicles fall into that
category, even a fully specced LandCruiser is well below this.

By the way, what qualifies you to say "your crappy country"? Lived in
Australia for long enough to make the comparison have you? Or are you just
one of those pea-brained bigots who wraps themselves in a flag and thinks
everywhere "foreign" is crappy? You get them in Australia too, so maybe
you'd get on with them at least.


There really is no defending SUVs.


No, it can be hard to defend SUVs, they are appropriate in some (though
few) cases, even in a piddly wee country like the UK. If you visited
Australia (or even sat on your arse and did minimal research on the
internet) then you'd see that Australia does have conditions that would
merit SUVs (and bigger 4x4s), though they're not necessarily as widespread
as the number of 4x4s around most cities would lead you to believe.


Graeme


When I was in the UK we went to see the Superbikes race at Brands
Hatch. On the way out we stopped at a little pub. In order to get there
in this tiny little village we had to wait in line to cross a tiny
little one lane hump back bridge. (in our lancia I think it was)

Anyway traffic going both ways over this bridge. A good 5 minute wait.
But there was a ford beside it. A proper cobblestone bottomed ford.
If I had been driving the car I would have gone thru it no worries..
The water was about 6 inches deep.

Later outside the pub we watched rows of 4wds crossing in opposite
directions one at a time . None of em used the ford... well one guy did
after we dared him too.

Maybe like turning around in drivways its one of the things the brits
just don;t do

D Walford wrote:
dave wrote:

On an advanced course at calder. I was the only one who evaded the
simulated accident. Brake and swerve on damp track.

In a 1967 Austin Healey sprite. One of about 4 cars on the day
without ABS. (which was rather rare then in general)

Thats odd the 3A was the last Sprite sold in Australia, mine was one of
the last Sprites and it was a 1965.
Was it a private import Mk4?

No its a 3A. As far as I know not a private import. JSE 053 as far as
I know the original reg.


As confirmed by the multitude of bumps I've had to get fixed on
the rear of my Rav4 and the rear of the wife's Prado simply
because the idiots driving "safe" sedans behind us cannot break
in as short a distance.

Yes, I AM fully aware that ABS does not reduce absolute
braking distance. That's not what it does.

You really don't have a clue of reality, do you?
I suggest you stay on the physics department "research"
and leave real life to people who actually have to live it.




Daft sod...

Frank


Would have loved to have seen a big 4wd try that. Funnily no one had
one. Anyone want to have a go? I,ll run the video ( from a long way
away)



My stock Hilux handles better than a stock Sprite, those things handle
aweful in stock form although you would be hard pressed to find a stock
one these days.


Stock.. there is stock?
Anytime you wanna line up a motokhana course?

Dave

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some dole bludging wannabe calling itself faggy arse ****ed and
moaned,
farted, **** its pants and blurted out:
**** all of any use to Australian road users.

Try again, faggoty arse, after you stop your juvenile dummy spit and
try using coherent English.

There's a shrink term for you, you little mildewed weasel, something
like "penis envy." You don't have what others have so you dream up all
the excuses under the sun why they should not have what they do have.
It won't work, ****face. Your ****y little left wing wanking will not
change anything. Those of us who own and use four wheel drives will
continue to do s, for work and/or for recreation, in spite of the
impotent ravings of fools like you and that ****wit scruby. Just in
case you're wondering, little skate board dole bludger, I own two four
wheel drives, and have five more on lease, all five are somewhere up
in
the Gulf of Carpentaria carrying full loads of tourists. And here's
the
kicker, little boy, all five are earning me a ****load of cash.

Hey! Good spray!
I wonder about it though. I haven't seen anyone griping about 4WDs used
for
their intended purpose. What I do see, though, is 4WD owners getting
all
defensive when someone questions their toys. Seems to support what the
articles say...

Frank

Funny enough car owners also get defensive when their toys are
questioned.
Seems to support all the hoon articles by your logic.

Agreed, but this thread isn't about the hoons, it's about 4WDs not being
used for their purpose. As I've stated in other threads, I've owned 4WDs
when I've needed them. Now I live in the burbs I can't for the life of me
see why I need a 2 1/2 tonne 'Cruiser to get my shopping home. No argument
with 4WDers using their vehicles off-road, even just occasionally.
Defensiveness gets up my nose in general. That includes those who get
defensive about their cars, bikes, 4WDs or their choice of dog - I don't
care - it's the defensive wall that bugs me.

As opposed to those that don't give a sh%t or encourage you to criticise
their car, car, bike, 4wd, dog or GF?

WRT hoons: Yep, I do think their actions (hooning) shows a lack of
self-respect, reflected in the lack of respect they show other people in
the
community. Lack of self-respect seems to go hand-in-hand with a defensive
attitude so I reckon you're right. I used to enjoy the odd
burnout/donut/hooning session myself but we did it on clear, quiet country
roads, well away fom any dwellings, where we didn't bother anyone else.
The
dickweeds who show me no respect by hooning where they risk others, not
just
themselves, get up my nose.

You expect us to join in on the 4WD bashing sessions, if we didn't reply
you
would all be in a fairy land where you believed no one used them offroad,
because we can fool you all with a quick wash at carlovers.

Bollox. Never found a car wash that could get my fourbys as pristine as
the
ones I'm referring to unless I spend more time cleaning than 4WDing. I
reckon anyone who does put in the effort to get their toy so pristinely
clean has bigger issues than we can cover here! That includes bikes, by
the
way :-)

Frank

Dan--- wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:26:54 +1000, D Walford wrote:



Ah, now I'm with you:-)
I haven't had the misfortune to drive one of those, the 12 tonner Hino
with a lazy axle that I drove for about 6mths was bad enough.


I have not driven an ACCO for a long time but I remember driving an old
Acco prime mover which had a IH big block Petrol V8 but I almost always
cried each time I saw a hill coming up! It sounded great but it was bloody
gutless and Jesus did it drink!.

I've always thought of big trucks with petrol engines as a bit of a joke.
Might be OK for light work and LPG is a lot cheaper than diesel.



Daryl

Birdman wrote:
I think the main reason the boss bought another DAF is its amazing fuel
economy, some of the Kenworths use more fuel per day than I do in a week.


Depends on driver, what he is towing, and which donk you go for..
Loved my K100E

I wasn't making a fair comparison, my little 310 hp DAF hauls bulk foam
to bedding and furniture companies around Melb.:-)
The K104 Aerodynes have 600hp Cummins hauling B doubles interstate.
The DAF is also a lot cheaper than a Kenworth not that Kenworth make a
cabover suitable for my job to compare with.



Daryl

Birdman wrote:
Cant wait until they hold up traffic one night, and some stoned trucky
on a tight schedule takes them all out!



Pushbikes aren't allowed in the Burnley Tunnel. Taking them in there was an
illegal act. But the politicians were too ****ant to let the cops do their
jobs and arrest the ******s.


Don't need to be stoned to do that.
A woman truck driver who I used to work with took out a Commodore when
changing lanes in the Burnley tunnel, it was a black car and she didn't
see it in the blind spot on her lh front corner, she hit the car and
spun it around then pushed it sideways for about 100mts scaring the ****
out of all concerned:-)


Daryl

dave wrote:


Stock.. there is stock?
Anytime you wanna line up a motokhana course?

When I bought mine in about 1971 it still had cross ply tyres, fitting
radials ruined my sideways fun on the way to work:-)
I used to do motorkhana's in the Sprite way back when, I might do OK in
the Hilux if it was on wet dirt and I was allowed to used 4WD:-)



Daryl

D Walford wrote:
dave wrote:


Stock.. there is stock?
Anytime you wanna line up a motokhana course?


When I bought mine in about 1971 it still had cross ply tyres, fitting
radials ruined my sideways fun on the way to work:-)
I used to do motorkhana's in the Sprite way back when, I might do OK in
the Hilux if it was on wet dirt and I was allowed to used 4WD:-)



Daryl

I,m picking that their is a reason I have never seen a Hilux on a
motorkhana. Still I am always happy to watch.

dave wrote:
D Walford wrote:

dave wrote:


Stock.. there is stock?
Anytime you wanna line up a motokhana course?



When I bought mine in about 1971 it still had cross ply tyres, fitting
radials ruined my sideways fun on the way to work:-)
I used to do motorkhana's in the Sprite way back when, I might do OK
in the Hilux if it was on wet dirt and I was allowed to used 4WD:-)



Daryl


I,m picking that their is a reason I have never seen a Hilux on a
motorkhana. Still I am always happy to watch.

Might be their crappy turning circle:-)
A bloke in the car club I was in had a very old Peugot which was an
excellent motorkhana car because it had an amazing turning circle, the
front wheel could be turned at almost 90deg to the body, he could make a
mistake and get away with it turning it like a forklift:-)



Daryl