CNBC on Armstrong

On Jun 17, 12:09*am, Fredmaster of Brainerd
wrote:

If you turn off your filter for a second, I'm pretty sure the
commentator was citing that number to show that the amount
of money USPS spent on LANCE and the team was very
small compared to the overall USPS budget.

That wasn't my take; I thought it was more of a double-slam.
As to the "filter", I was surprised at the comment in the first place
but it was the dismissive (remember, there is a diss in dismissive)
tone that I caught more than any "drop in the bucket" comparison. But
if that's (d-i-b) it came across to America, good (IMHO).

Your other comments related to the anti-USPS
rhetoric (the service, not the team) I basically agree
with. *The postal service is one of the few public services
in the US that compares better than the services in, say,
European states, on performance for the price. *And the
effective subsidy for junk mail is socialism-for-business
at its worst.

At one of the main substations in Austin, early in the era when Lance
was winning TdF's and still mainly lived here, I noticed none of the
USPS team posters, etc. were hanging.
I mean, if there has ever been a product/service tie-in-- "delivering
the mail", as LA was delivering victory in the world's grandest
sporting event????? Anyhow, employees were FORBIDDEN to show any USPS
"Postal Team" advertising. Why? Well, of course, that might lead to
positive ("good") employee morale and that's not what the management
wanted, quite the opposite. Attested to by contact with post office
workers there (at that station) and my mail carriers, before and
since.

I will delete my rant IRT bad management practices, Reagan-Bush
politics, the ruining of America, etc. etc.
You can call it a "filter" if you want...
--D-y

On Jun 17, 7:49*am, Brad Anders wrote:
I'd guess that by the time this fed investigation of LA and Postal is
done, they'll have spent at least $5M, and if they get a conviction,
they might get $5M back, for an effective zero net. Hardly worth the
effort for a $23M outlay for the govt.

At this point the government isn't worried about if the US will be
flushed down the toilet - they are only trying to make it happen as
fast as possible. For that reason they should be commended but
it's not as effective as starting another war somewhere.

I'm sure the people of Belgium have done something to offend us... if
not I'll start the ball rolling.

All Belgiums are waffle humping cowards.

Anton Berlin wrote:
All Belgiums are waffle humping cowards.

On Eddy's birthday, tsk tsk.

On Jun 17, 8:49*am, Brad Anders wrote:

I'd guess that by the time this fed investigation of LA and Postal is
done, they'll have spent at least $5M, and if they get a conviction,
they might get $5M back, for an effective zero net. Hardly worth the
effort for a $23M outlay for the govt.

Huh? I think you seriously underestimate how quickly legal
investigation costs add up. I would be totally shocked if the end
cost didn't exceed what USPS paid in sponsorship funding.

When you add up the time lost that could have been spent on a real
investigation, or solving real problems, instead of having another
episode of The Kardashians in tights, then the costs are truly
staggering.

This is what ****-stirrers and trolls do. They keep dragging
attention back to stuff that doesn't deserve attention. Ask them a
question, and they refuse to answer it and drag it back to what they
want to talk about it.

You can feed it, or starve it and kill it. I'm all for killing.

R

Anton Berlin wrote:
All Belgiums are waffle humping cowards.

A. Dumas wrote:
On Eddy's birthday, tsk tsk.

Luckily Magilla isn't here to tell you how much he sucked.

On Jun 17, 10:34*am, "A. Dumas" wrote:
Anton Berlin wrote:
All Belgiums are waffle humping cowards.

On Eddy's birthday, tsk tsk.

http://youtu.be/knwwgZNeIpA

fast forward to roughly 50 seconds in...

On Jun 17, 7:45*pm, Scott wrote:
On Jun 17, 10:34*am, "A. Dumas" wrote:

Anton Berlin wrote:
All Belgiums are waffle humping cowards.

On Eddy's birthday, tsk tsk.

http://youtu.be/knwwgZNeIpA

fast forward to roughly 50 seconds in...

or this one: http://youtu.be/8iXvhcw07do

On Jun 17, 10:34*am, "A. Dumas" wrote:
Anton Berlin wrote:
All Belgiums are waffle humping cowards.

On Eddy's birthday, tsk tsk.

too funny, but on one of the local Denver tv stations, during their
morning show they always have a list of celebrity birthdays. Today,
they listed Merckx... and one of the talking heads commented, "he won
5 Tours de France, back before they had performance enhancing drugs"

Scott wrote:
on one of the local Denver tv stations, during their
morning show they always have a list of celebrity birthdays. Today,
they listed Merckx... and one of the talking heads commented, "he won
5 Tours de France, back before they had performance enhancing drugs"

Awesome.

Brad Anders wrote:

On Jun 15, 2:41*pm, Vagina Gorilla wrote:
I went looking for some footage from today where the Aspen
confrontation was described as just short of a fistfight. *But found
this

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000023565

LA committing fraud - the one guy said that USPS invested $23M,
but got a return of $103M from the engagement. Can someone explain to
me how if USPS got more in return than they invested that they were
defrauded?


Sure...the $103 million is also a fraudulent figure. Second, the
contract Lance signed says NO ****ING DOPING. Lance doped. Ergo, fraud
- defrauded the terms of the contract. The amount of PR garnered by the
team is irrelevant.

Third, the doping allegations with Postal are now tarnishing the U.S.
Postal brand to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars in NEGATIVE
EXPOSURE...and we didn't even go to trial yet. You forgot to subtract
all the negative publicity from Lance that is now irreparably damaging
the U.S. Postal brand.

Fourth, Lance will be stripped of several of his Tour wins once Tygart at
USADA files doping charges. More bad imagery for U.S. Postal brand.

Let me know if you need any more help understanding why major corporate
sponsors don't want to be associated with doping and how doping harms
their brand image.

Thanks,

Magilla