Armstrong In Deep Trouble

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/88...g-charges.aspx

On Jun 22, 10:49*pm, BL wrote:
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/88...investigation-...

Armstrong was already investigated for witness tampering when he
chased down a break with Simeoni in the last stage of the Tour de
France. The videotape evidence there was clear, Simeoni will be
brought to testify at the trial to confirm the incident.

-ilan

On Jun 22, 1:49*pm, BL wrote:
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/88...investigation-...

If there are impartial third parties that heard LA threaten Tyler,
then LA is definitely in trouble. If there are videotapes that show LA
acting in a threatening manner towards Tyler, or there are impartial
third parties that saw him act threateningly, then LA is definitely in
trouble. However, if it just comes down to Tyler's word against LA's
word, I doubt anything will happen - and that's what it's looking like
right now. The videotapes don't seem to exist, and at least in that
article, it doesn't seem anyone other than Tyler and Lance actually
heard their conversation.

On 6/22/2011 5:05 PM, ilan wrote:
On Jun 22, 10:49 pm, wrote:
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/88...investigation-...

Armstrong was already investigated for witness tampering when he
chased down a break with Simeoni in the last stage of the Tour de
France. The videotape evidence there was clear, Simeoni will be
brought to testify at the trial to confirm the incident.

-ilan
Doubtful that Simeoni will be anything more than a tourist visiting
Armstrong's trial. Apples vs. oranges Ilian

On 6/22/2011 5:29 PM, Brad Anders wrote:
On Jun 22, 1:49 pm, wrote:
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/88...investigation-...

If there are impartial third parties that heard LA threaten Tyler,
then LA is definitely in trouble. If there are videotapes that show LA
acting in a threatening manner towards Tyler, or there are impartial
third parties that saw him act threateningly, then LA is definitely in
trouble. However, if it just comes down to Tyler's word against LA's
word, I doubt anything will happen - and that's what it's looking like
right now. The videotapes don't seem to exist, and at least in that
article, it doesn't seem anyone other than Tyler and Lance actually
heard their conversation.

It has already been reported that Armstrong physically stopped Hamilton.
That lends credibility to Hamilton's allegations. If you bothered to
read the article, you'd have read that tampering charges are often
brought with only the witness' statement of what happened. I suggest
that you also take a good look at the description of the meeting on the
Outside reporter's blog.

The fact that the restaurant owner has admitted giving Armstrong advance
warning of Hamilton's presence is also a major problem for Armstrong as
his presence and physical stopping of Hamilton indicates intent to
intimidate.

It is being reported elsewhere the the US Attorney has, in a letter to
Armstrong's counsel, asked for Armstrong to relate his side of the
encounter. Lance truly screwed himself.

On Jun 22, 11:05*pm, ilan wrote:
On Jun 22, 10:49*pm, BL wrote:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/88...investigation-...

Armstrong was already investigated for witness tampering when he
chased down a break with Simeoni in the last stage of the Tour de
France. The videotape evidence there was clear, Simeoni will be
brought to testify at the trial to confirm the incident.

-ilan

Moreover, during the USPS years, Armstrong was well known for
following his teammates and taking shelter from the wind as well as
taking pace, thereby using them for his own ends. During all those
tour wins, did any other rider from USPS win a stage, why did one of
his teammates only win a stage when they switched to Discovery
Channel? Inquiring minds want to know.....

-ilan

http://outside-blog.away.com/blog/20...nto-a-bar.html

On 6/22/2011 2:31 PM, BL wrote:
On 6/22/2011 5:05 PM, ilan wrote:
On Jun 22, 10:49 pm, wrote:
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/88...investigation-...

Armstrong was already investigated for witness tampering when he
chased down a break with Simeoni in the last stage of the Tour de
France. The videotape evidence there was clear, Simeoni will be
brought to testify at the trial to confirm the incident.

-ilan
Doubtful that Simeoni will be anything more than a tourist visiting
Armstrong's trial. Apples vs. oranges Ilian

Tell us more of your hatred of oranges...

On 6/22/2011 2:56 PM, BL wrote:
On 6/22/2011 5:29 PM, Brad Anders wrote:
On Jun 22, 1:49 pm, wrote:
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/88...investigation-...

If there are impartial third parties that heard LA threaten Tyler,
then LA is definitely in trouble. If there are videotapes that show LA
acting in a threatening manner towards Tyler, or there are impartial
third parties that saw him act threateningly, then LA is definitely in
trouble. However, if it just comes down to Tyler's word against LA's
word, I doubt anything will happen - and that's what it's looking like
right now. The videotapes don't seem to exist, and at least in that
article, it doesn't seem anyone other than Tyler and Lance actually
heard their conversation.

It has already been reported that Armstrong physically stopped Hamilton.
That lends credibility to Hamilton's allegations. If you bothered to
read the article, you'd have read that tampering charges are often
brought with only the witness' statement of what happened. I suggest
that you also take a good look at the description of the meeting on the
Outside reporter's blog.

The fact that the restaurant owner has admitted giving Armstrong advance
warning of Hamilton's presence is also a major problem for Armstrong as
his presence and physical stopping of Hamilton indicates intent to
intimidate.

It is being reported elsewhere the the US Attorney has, in a letter to
Armstrong's counsel, asked for Armstrong to relate his side of the
encounter. Lance truly screwed himself.

This is so much like that time Lance was screwed for using Ebay that
it's scary.

If Lance ultimately IS screwed you will have called it, since you've
pretty much called every possibility/impossibility.

"BL" wrote in message
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On 6/22/2011 5:29 PM, Brad Anders wrote:
On Jun 22, 1:49 pm, wrote:
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/88...investigation-...

If there are impartial third parties that heard LA threaten Tyler,
then LA is definitely in trouble. If there are videotapes that show
LA
acting in a threatening manner towards Tyler, or there are impartial
third parties that saw him act threateningly, then LA is definitely
in
trouble. However, if it just comes down to Tyler's word against LA's
word, I doubt anything will happen - and that's what it's looking
like
right now. The videotapes don't seem to exist, and at least in that
article, it doesn't seem anyone other than Tyler and Lance actually
heard their conversation.

It has already been reported that Armstrong physically stopped
Hamilton. That lends credibility to Hamilton's allegations. If you
bothered to read the article, you'd have read that tampering charges
are often brought with only the witness' statement of what happened.

Bringing charges against someone is in itself a sort of "tampering with
justice" is it not? Aren't charges often brought without any intent or
belief anything will come of them, because it serves the purpose of
intimidating or putting someone on notice?

I suggest that you also take a good look at the description of the
meeting on the Outside reporter's blog.

Which can be summed up, in the blogger's own words, thusly-

"And, despite the twittosphere's hope for more details, that's pretty
much where the story ends: two guys who don't feel very kindly toward
one another ran into each other at a bar. "I was rattled," Hamilton told
me. "I still am.""

Read into that what you wish, but to many, it sounds like the author,
obviously a fan or friend of Tyler, didn't see this as being much more
than a moment of awkwardness.

The fact that the restaurant owner has admitted giving Armstrong
advance warning of Hamilton's presence is also a major problem for
Armstrong as his presence and physical stopping of Hamilton indicates
intent to intimidate.

There's something a bit odd about the whole coincidence thing. The
article says that Tyler thought Lance was out of town, and thus wouldn't
run into him in the restaurant. Huh? Aspen is small but not tiny; there
are a number of places to eat, and the chances of randomly running into
Lance in one is quite small. On the other hand, the odds of running into
Lance in a restraint which he is known to frequent... well first of all,
it's odd that that's where Tyler would choose to eat, and second... I
don't even know where to go with the second point. It just smells fishy.
Like Tyler was pretending to be the alpha dog in Lance's territory while
Lance was away.

It is being reported elsewhere the the US Attorney has, in a letter to
Armstrong's counsel, asked for Armstrong to relate his side of the
encounter. Lance truly screwed himself.

And why wouldn't he? With all the discussion flying around, including
people talking about charges of witness tampering (has anyone associated
with the case actually brought this up?), of course you'd want to get a
handle on it. And of course that would mean talking with both parties
involved.

Unless Tyler wants to get a restraining order, I don't see this going
anywhere. A restraining order (if appropriate?) would keep this in the
press for some time, and would make Lance a sort of "convicted"
(although not really) bully. That would be bad for Lance. But otherwise,
this is just a distraction from the main event, and that probably works
in Lance's favor. Anything that casts Lance in a bad light personally
plays into his defense that this is all about emotion and not facts.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com