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  #51  
Old February 14th 20, 07:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Ted Heise
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Default OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:26:02 -0600,
AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 10:36 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:


OK, frame and fork. When I started riding as an adult, anyone
wanting top quality bought their frame and fork (if not the
whole bike) from Europe. Everyone knew that bikes made in the
U.S. couldn't be any good. We're in a different world now.

But seriously, was there a reason you didn't find a European
manufacturer? I'm just curious.


Frank, when you were a wee lad we had Paramounts, as high a
quality handbuilt frame as anything on earth


+1

My old riding buddy had a couple of Paramounts. His oldest was a
thing of beauty, and much beloved.

--
Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA
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  #52  
Old February 14th 20, 07:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL

On 14/02/2020 14:53, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 12:52 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/02/2020 01:45, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/12/2020 5:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related?

Cheers


Cleaning a 1970 Raleigh Competition (Carlton built) frameset
which is, basically, making black snot with emery dust and elbow
grease.


Applause Weinmann center pulls and everything 70's going on to
it?


We normally only see the frames here but yes he says it's all
original.

For those who like that sort of thing, befo
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18c.jpg after:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18q.jpg


I'll be back after my cold shower.

Yes they are ****, I know that, but they are the bikes of my youf!
  #53  
Old February 14th 20, 08:44 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL

On 2/14/2020 1:26 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 10:36 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 5:11 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 10:10:13 PM UTC+1, Frank
Krygowski wrote:
On 2/13/2020 1:56 PM,
wrote:
On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 12:43:19 AM UTC+1, Sir
Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related?

Cheers

It seems that we are skipping winter over here. No snow,
no icy roads or other inconvenience. The lowest
temperatures up to now were just above freezing which is
no problem for a 2-3 hour ride.ツ* This years counter is
at almost 1300 km. The roads were wet a lot though so I
had to cleaned my bikes often.

Got informed today why the frame of my new gravel bike
is delayed. 'The finish of and around the bottom bracket
shell was not according to manufacturer standards' and
the frame didn't pass their quality control. I don't
what that means but someone in Colorado f*cked up and
has to do something over.ツ* Bummer...

I'm surprised someone in Europe is buying bikes from the
U.S. How times
have changed!

--
- Frank Krygowski

Bikes? Just a frame and fork. A bike is an assembly of
parts coming from all over the world. This bike will have
parts coming from, lets see,
US, Italy, Japan, France, Switserland, Germany, UK.
Assembled in NL.


OK, frame and fork. When I started riding as an adult,
anyone wanting top quality bought their frame and fork (if
not the whole bike) from Europe. Everyone knew that bikes
made in the U.S. couldn't be any good.
We're in a different world now.

But seriously, was there a reason you didn't find a European
manufacturer? I'm just curious.



Frank, when you were a wee lad we had Paramounts, as high a quality
handbuilt frame as anything on earth, as well as a few exceptional
custom builders such as Albert Eisentraut.


I knew about those. But everyone I knew with an upscale bike bought
Italian or British. Maybe one guy had a nice French bike.

Admit it.ツ* You were a victim of the Euro fashion of the era.


:-) Perhaps I would have been if I had the money to buy one! I actually
traded bikes to get my used Raleigh. The area I lived in had one Schwinn
shop, where even a Varsity was a rarity. I hung around the Raleigh shop
and drooled a lot, but couldn't afford a new one. Eisenstraut might as
well have been on Venus.

It was years later that I could finally buy what I considered a really
good bike. It was a Cannondale.

p.s. We sell American made Waterford and Gunnar in Europe. Small
numbers, but not zero.


Good to know.

--
- Frank Krygowski
  #54  
Old February 14th 20, 09:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL

On 2/14/2020 1:15 PM, Mark J. wrote:
On 2/13/2020 4:54 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:24:10 UTC-5, Roger Merrimanツ* wrote:
Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:28:33 UTC-5, Frank Krygowskiツ* wrote:
On 2/12/2020 6:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related?

Sort of. Yesterday I used my folding bike for a short ride. Turns out
the Cateye wireless cyclometer didn't register any speed or distance.
I'm hoping it's just that the sending unit's battery needs replaced.

This has been a frequent irritation in cold weather. The 20" wheels
and
the tall stem make the distance from sender to display unit fairly
large, but still within the supposed range, according to the
manual. But
for years I'd have problems with lost radio contact if the temperature
dropped below 40 F.

Last year or the year before, I decided it was because the handlebar
itself blocked the signal to some degree. I fabricated a plastic mount
to hold the display unit in front of the handlebar. It seemed to be
working until yesterday's ride, which was right about freezing. I'll
change the sender battery and see if it helps.

But I'm at an age where I no longer enjoy riding much below 40 F.
Today
I'm fighting off a sore throat, which has been my usual punishment
for a
cold weather ride.ツ* :-(


--
- Frank Krygowski

I'm really glad I'm comfortable riding when it's below freezing.
Otherwise I'd miss about 1/2 of the year riding here.

Batteries losing power when really cold is the main reason I'm staying
with an external battery pack headlight on my bikes.

Cheers


If anything surely a external should be more prone to cold since it窶冱
removed from most heat sources, though in practice the size of a
external
should protect it, I have both systems and neither shows any effect
which
is probably down to the size of the battery packs be they external or
internal.

The wee Garmin I use on the commute most definitely does get effected by
cold, as the temperature reduces to zero so the battery level drops,
again
my older larger Garmin Touring is not noticeably effected by cold.

Roger Merriman


Nope. That's because with an external battery pack and the long cable
I get with them, I can carry the battery pack inside my jacket where
the battery stays nice and warm. I do t he same thing when I go into a
store = take the battery with me. Then when I come out I just plug the
battery back into the light and it works just like it does in warm
weather.


After trying to use a CO2 inflator at 30F (-2C) [1] I started carrying
the cartridges inside my jacket.ツ* It helped a lot.

The cold cartridge did about 40-60% the inflation that a warm cartridge
does.ツ* I talked to a physical chemist to try to figure out the exact
failure mechanism, we never came to a precise conclusion.ツ* Ideal gas law
doesn't account for this much drop in effectiveness.


You're not dealing with just an ideal gas inside the cartridge. It's gas
in equilibrium contact with liquid CO2. The equilibrium pressure varies
a lot with temperature. See this chart:
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...sses/co2pv.gif

Your cartridge is operating in the region below the inverted "U" curve.
Note that in that region, pressure is constant no matter how much it's
filled; but pressure varies a lot with temperature. Compare 30F vs. 80F
under that "U" curve.

Ideal gas behavior does apply to the gas expanding into your tire, but
that's not where the temperature problem comes from.


--
- Frank Krygowski
  #55  
Old February 14th 20, 09:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL

On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 8:53 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 12:52 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/02/2020 01:45, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/12/2020 5:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related?

Cheers


Cleaning a 1970 Raleigh Competition (Carlton built)
frameset which is, basically, making black snot with emery
dust and elbow grease.


Applauseテつ* Weinmann center pulls and everything 70's going
on to it?

We normally only see the frames here but yes he says it's
all original.

For those who like that sort of thing, befo
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18c.jpg
after:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18q.jpg


About brakes: Those were the long-arm center pull brakes
that came originally on my Raleigh Super Course. It also had
a similar stamped steel cable housing stop hanging from the
headset. That part was pretty flexible.

I always thought those brakes were weak. Eventually I
replaced them with Shimano cantilevers and a more rigid
cable stop. Also, Kool-Stop salmon pads. I like that setup
much better. The Weinmann brakes are now on my three speed.

But when the bike had those original brakes, I did loaded
tours of England (with some time in hilly Devon) and
Scotland (including the hills around Loch Ness) plus the
Appalachians.

Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand
lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop?


We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not cheap, it's highly
skilled labor.

Who did yours? Did you do it yourself?


I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to try it
someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten around to it!

Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at a weird
project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the point where I need
to paint a complicated set of overlapping analemma curves on my ceiling.

If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who could work in an
anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But pinstriping brushes and rollers
don't seem to work well upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of
these curves. It's terribly tedious.


--
- Frank Krygowski
  #56  
Old February 14th 20, 09:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Default OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL

On 2/14/2020 2:26 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 8:53 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 12:52 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/02/2020 01:45, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/12/2020 5:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related?

Cheers


Cleaning a 1970 Raleigh Competition (Carlton built)
frameset which is, basically, making black snot with
emery
dust and elbow grease.


Applauseテつ Weinmann center pulls and everything
70's going
on to it?

We normally only see the frames here but yes he says it's
all original.

For those who like that sort of thing, befo
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18c.jpg
after:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18q.jpg

About brakes: Those were the long-arm center pull brakes
that came originally on my Raleigh Super Course. It also had
a similar stamped steel cable housing stop hanging from the
headset. That part was pretty flexible.

I always thought those brakes were weak. Eventually I
replaced them with Shimano cantilevers and a more rigid
cable stop. Also, Kool-Stop salmon pads. I like that setup
much better. The Weinmann brakes are now on my three speed.

But when the bike had those original brakes, I did loaded
tours of England (with some time in hilly Devon) and
Scotland (including the hills around Loch Ness) plus the
Appalachians.

Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand
lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop?


We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not
cheap, it's highly skilled labor.

Who did yours? Did you do it yourself?


I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to
try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten
around to it!

Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at
a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the
point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping
analemma curves on my ceiling.

If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who
could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But
pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well
upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these
curves. It's terribly tedious.



I asked because I couldn't think of a frame with hand
painted graphics. I still can't recall one.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  #57  
Old February 14th 20, 10:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL

On 2/14/2020 3:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 2:26 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 8:53 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 12:52 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/02/2020 01:45, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/12/2020 5:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related?

Cheers


Cleaning a 1970 Raleigh Competition (Carlton built)
frameset which is, basically, making black snot with
emery
dust and elbow grease.


Applauseテつ* Weinmann center pulls and everything
70's going
on to it?

We normally only see the frames here but yes he says it's
all original.

For those who like that sort of thing, befo
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18c.jpg
after:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18q.jpg

About brakes: Those were the long-arm center pull brakes
that came originally on my Raleigh Super Course. It also had
a similar stamped steel cable housing stop hanging from the
headset. That part was pretty flexible.

I always thought those brakes were weak. Eventually I
replaced them with Shimano cantilevers and a more rigid
cable stop. Also, Kool-Stop salmon pads. I like that setup
much better. The Weinmann brakes are now on my three speed.

But when the bike had those original brakes, I did loaded
tours of England (with some time in hilly Devon) and
Scotland (including the hills around Loch Ness) plus the
Appalachians.

Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand
lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop?


We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not
cheap, it's highly skilled labor.

Who did yours? Did you do it yourself?


I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to
try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten
around to it!

Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at
a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the
point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping
analemma curves on my ceiling.

If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who
could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But
pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well
upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these
curves. It's terribly tedious.



I asked because I couldn't think of a frame with hand painted graphics.
I still can't recall one.


1972 Raleigh Super Course, Carlton factory (I think).


--
- Frank Krygowski
  #58  
Old February 14th 20, 11:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Default OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL

On 2/14/2020 3:42 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 3:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 2:26 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 8:53 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 12:52 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/02/2020 01:45, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/12/2020 5:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related?

Cheers


Cleaning a 1970 Raleigh Competition (Carlton built)
frameset which is, basically, making black snot with
emery
dust and elbow grease.


Applauseテつ Weinmann center pulls and everything
70's going
on to it?

We normally only see the frames here but yes he says it's
all original.

For those who like that sort of thing, befo
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18c.jpg
after:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18q.jpg

About brakes: Those were the long-arm center pull brakes
that came originally on my Raleigh Super Course. It
also had
a similar stamped steel cable housing stop hanging from
the
headset. That part was pretty flexible.

I always thought those brakes were weak. Eventually I
replaced them with Shimano cantilevers and a more rigid
cable stop. Also, Kool-Stop salmon pads. I like that setup
much better. The Weinmann brakes are now on my three
speed.

But when the bike had those original brakes, I did loaded
tours of England (with some time in hilly Devon) and
Scotland (including the hills around Loch Ness) plus the
Appalachians.

Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand
lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop?


We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not
cheap, it's highly skilled labor.

Who did yours? Did you do it yourself?

I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to
try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten
around to it!

Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at
a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the
point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping
analemma curves on my ceiling.

If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who
could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But
pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well
upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these
curves. It's terribly tedious.



I asked because I couldn't think of a frame with hand
painted graphics. I still can't recall one.


1972 Raleigh Super Course, Carlton factory (I think).



It's not. Those are solvent-applied[1] film graphics.

[1] butyl cellosolve

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  #59  
Old February 14th 20, 11:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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Default OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:26:17 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 8:53 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 12:52 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/02/2020 01:45, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/12/2020 5:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related?

Cheers


Cleaning a 1970 Raleigh Competition (Carlton built)
frameset which is, basically, making black snot with emery
dust and elbow grease.


Applauseツ* Weinmann center pulls and everything 70's going
on to it?

We normally only see the frames here but yes he says it's
all original.

For those who like that sort of thing, befo
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18c.jpg
after:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18q.jpg

About brakes: Those were the long-arm center pull brakes
that came originally on my Raleigh Super Course. It also had
a similar stamped steel cable housing stop hanging from the
headset. That part was pretty flexible.

I always thought those brakes were weak. Eventually I
replaced them with Shimano cantilevers and a more rigid
cable stop. Also, Kool-Stop salmon pads. I like that setup
much better. The Weinmann brakes are now on my three speed.

But when the bike had those original brakes, I did loaded
tours of England (with some time in hilly Devon) and
Scotland (including the hills around Loch Ness) plus the
Appalachians.

Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand
lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop?


We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not cheap, it's highly
skilled labor.

Who did yours? Did you do it yourself?


I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to try it
someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten around to it!

Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at a weird
project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the point where I need
to paint a complicated set of overlapping analemma curves on my ceiling.

If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who could work in an
anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But pinstriping brushes and rollers
don't seem to work well upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of
these curves. It's terribly tedious.


You can buy "paint pens", I think that they are called. I've used them
to pin stripe things and they worked for me :-)
https://www.amazon.com/paint-pens/s?k=paint+pens
I pinstriped a frame and than sprayed a clear coat and so far it has
held up well.
--
cheers,

John B.

  #60  
Old February 15th 20, 12:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Posts: 10,538
Default OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL

On 2/14/2020 5:04 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 3:42 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 3:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 2:26 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 8:53 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 12:52 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/02/2020 01:45, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/12/2020 5:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related?

Cheers


Cleaning a 1970 Raleigh Competition (Carlton built)
frameset which is, basically, making black snot with
emery
dust and elbow grease.


Applauseテつ* Weinmann center pulls and everything
70's going
on to it?

We normally only see the frames here but yes he says it's
all original.

For those who like that sort of thing, befo
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18c.jpg
after:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18q.jpg

About brakes: Those were the long-arm center pull brakes
that came originally on my Raleigh Super Course. It
also had
a similar stamped steel cable housing stop hanging from
the
headset. That part was pretty flexible.

I always thought those brakes were weak. Eventually I
replaced them with Shimano cantilevers and a more rigid
cable stop. Also, Kool-Stop salmon pads. I like that setup
much better. The Weinmann brakes are now on my three
speed.

But when the bike had those original brakes, I did loaded
tours of England (with some time in hilly Devon) and
Scotland (including the hills around Loch Ness) plus the
Appalachians.

Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand
lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop?


We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not
cheap, it's highly skilled labor.

Who did yours? Did you do it yourself?

I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to
try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten
around to it!

Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at
a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the
point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping
analemma curves on my ceiling.

If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who
could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But
pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well
upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these
curves. It's terribly tedious.



I asked because I couldn't think of a frame with hand
painted graphics. I still can't recall one.


1972 Raleigh Super Course, Carlton factory (I think).



It's not.* Those are solvent-applied[1] film graphics.

[1] butyl cellosolve


Really! OK, I didn't know that.


--
- Frank Krygowski
 




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