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OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL
On 2/14/2020 4:33 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:26:17 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 8:53 AM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 12:52 AM, Tosspot wrote: On 13/02/2020 01:45, AMuzi wrote: On 2/12/2020 5:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related? Cheers Cleaning a 1970 Raleigh Competition (Carlton built) frameset which is, basically, making black snot with emery dust and elbow grease. Applause Weinmann center pulls and everything 70's going on to it? We normally only see the frames here but yes he says it's all original. For those who like that sort of thing, befo http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18c.jpg after: http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18q.jpg About brakes: Those were the long-arm center pull brakes that came originally on my Raleigh Super Course. It also had a similar stamped steel cable housing stop hanging from the headset. That part was pretty flexible. I always thought those brakes were weak. Eventually I replaced them with Shimano cantilevers and a more rigid cable stop. Also, Kool-Stop salmon pads. I like that setup much better. The Weinmann brakes are now on my three speed. But when the bike had those original brakes, I did loaded tours of England (with some time in hilly Devon) and Scotland (including the hills around Loch Ness) plus the Appalachians. Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop? We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not cheap, it's highly skilled labor. Who did yours? Did you do it yourself? I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten around to it! Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping analemma curves on my ceiling. If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these curves. It's terribly tedious. You can buy "paint pens", I think that they are called. I've used them to pin stripe things and they worked for me :-) https://www.amazon.com/paint-pens/s?k=paint+pens I pinstriped a frame and than sprayed a clear coat and so far it has held up well. Besides the acrylic ones I use (probably what you used too - Uchida Paint Pen? DecoColor?) they now come in a water-base version (can't recall the brand) including neon colors. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Tracking down noises: was: OT. Anything BICYCLING relatedgoing on here? LOL
On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 8:47:00 PM UTC-8, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 16:20:04 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: Seems we could do with an entire thread on tracking down bike noises. I've experienced many mysteries. Working on cars, a mechanic's stethoscope has been handy, but it's useless on a bike. My favorite story in that line is a mysterious clanking that started while I was riding over a long, high bridge. It turned out that the noise was coming from a bird flying beside me. I swear, that bird was smirking. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ I'm sure it was. We have a lady bird watcher in the group and she does bird counts in one area. When I go to her target area there are song birds of every sort everywhere. But when she goes the hide. I think that if they get marked down as "endangered" they get special services from the government. |
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OT. Anything BICYCLING related going on here? LOL
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 10:47:40 AM UTC-8, Ted Heise wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:26:02 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 10:36 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: OK, frame and fork. When I started riding as an adult, anyone wanting top quality bought their frame and fork (if not the whole bike) from Europe. Everyone knew that bikes made in the U.S. couldn't be any good. We're in a different world now. But seriously, was there a reason you didn't find a European manufacturer? I'm just curious. Frank, when you were a wee lad we had Paramounts, as high a quality handbuilt frame as anything on earth +1 My old riding buddy had a couple of Paramounts. His oldest was a thing of beauty, and much beloved. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA All of the Paramount's I had were European-like models, heavy, not well balanced and made from some sort of tubing that could double under the street running sewage through. I never could find a Waterford made model in my size. They were really nice bikes in steel and the new Waterfords make them look like trash. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:31:42 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 4:33 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:26:17 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 8:53 AM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 12:52 AM, Tosspot wrote: On 13/02/2020 01:45, AMuzi wrote: On 2/12/2020 5:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related? Cheers Cleaning a 1970 Raleigh Competition (Carlton built) frameset which is, basically, making black snot with emery dust and elbow grease. Applause Weinmann center pulls and everything 70's going on to it? We normally only see the frames here but yes he says it's all original. For those who like that sort of thing, befo http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18c.jpg after: http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18q.jpg About brakes: Those were the long-arm center pull brakes that came originally on my Raleigh Super Course. It also had a similar stamped steel cable housing stop hanging from the headset. That part was pretty flexible. I always thought those brakes were weak. Eventually I replaced them with Shimano cantilevers and a more rigid cable stop. Also, Kool-Stop salmon pads. I like that setup much better. The Weinmann brakes are now on my three speed. But when the bike had those original brakes, I did loaded tours of England (with some time in hilly Devon) and Scotland (including the hills around Loch Ness) plus the Appalachians. Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop? We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not cheap, it's highly skilled labor. Who did yours? Did you do it yourself? I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten around to it! Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping analemma curves on my ceiling. If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these curves. It's terribly tedious. You can buy "paint pens", I think that they are called. I've used them to pin stripe things and they worked for me :-) https://www.amazon.com/paint-pens/s?k=paint+pens I pinstriped a frame and than sprayed a clear coat and so far it has held up well. Besides the acrylic ones I use (probably what you used too - Uchida Paint Pen? DecoColor?) they now come in a water-base version (can't recall the brand) including neon colors. I just used black. The bike is powder coated red and yellow and while black doesn't look "bad" but I think, if there is a next time, I'll use red on the yellow sections and yellow on the red sections. They certainly do work better than sitting there with your tongue sticking out the corner of your mouth trying to stripe with a tiny paint brush :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:49:53 -0600,
AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 2:26 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop? We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not cheap, it's highly skilled labor. Who did yours? Did you do it yourself? I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten around to it! Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping analemma curves on my ceiling. If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these curves. It's terribly tedious. I asked because I couldn't think of a frame with hand painted graphics. I still can't recall one. The Waterford I bought back in 1998 had my name (in cursive) painted on it. I had assumed that was hand painted, but maybe it was not? In a thread tie (or maybe it was somewhere else in this thread?), I bought the Waterford because I was envious of my buddy's classic Paramount, and it seemed the closest I could come to it. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA |
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On 2/15/2020 8:24 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:49:53 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 2:26 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop? We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not cheap, it's highly skilled labor. Who did yours? Did you do it yourself? I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten around to it! Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping analemma curves on my ceiling. If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these curves. It's terribly tedious. I asked because I couldn't think of a frame with hand painted graphics. I still can't recall one. The Waterford I bought back in 1998 had my name (in cursive) painted on it. I had assumed that was hand painted, but maybe it was not? In a thread tie (or maybe it was somewhere else in this thread?), I bought the Waterford because I was envious of my buddy's classic Paramount, and it seemed the closest I could come to it. Waterford script (and block) graphics are dry mount film transfers: http://www.yellowjersey.org/wfdrs33.jpg I know the guy who screens them. Regarding Frank's Raleigh, these are actual 45 year old solvent mount graphics (hence a bit yellowed) recently applied: http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/rsc18q.jpg -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 2/14/2020 6:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/14/2020 4:33 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:26:17 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 8:53 AM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 12:52 AM, Tosspot wrote: On 13/02/2020 01:45, AMuzi wrote: On 2/12/2020 5:43 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: Anyone here doing anything BICYCLING related? Cheers Cleaning a 1970 Raleigh Competition (Carlton built) frameset which is, basically, making black snot with emery dust and elbow grease. ApplauseÂÂ* Weinmann center pulls and everything 70's going on to it? We normally only see the frames here but yes he says it's all original. For those who like that sort of thing, befo http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18c.jpg after: http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/ral18q.jpg About brakes: Those were the long-arm center pull brakes that came originally on my Raleigh Super Course. It also had a similar stamped steel cable housing stop hanging from the headset. That part was pretty flexible. I always thought those brakes were weak. Eventually I replaced them with Shimano cantilevers and a more rigid cable stop. Also, Kool-Stop salmon pads. I like that setup much better. The Weinmann brakes are now on my three speed. But when the bike had those original brakes, I did loaded tours of England (with some time in hilly Devon) and Scotland (including the hills around Loch Ness) plus the Appalachians. Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop? We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not cheap, it's highly skilled labor. Who did yours? Did you do it yourself? I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten around to it! Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping analemma curves on my ceiling. If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these curves. It's terribly tedious. You can buy "paint pens", I think that they are called. I've used them to pin stripe things and they worked for me :-) https://www.amazon.com/paint-pens/s?k=paint+pens I pinstriped a frame and than sprayed a clear coat and so far itÂ* has held up well. Besides the acrylic ones I use (probably what you used too - Uchida Paint Pen? DecoColor?) they now come in a water-base version (can't recall the brand) including neon colors. An art teacher friend of mine recommended those paint pens. I tried Artist's Loft brand, but they are not sufficiently opaque. These say they're alcohol based. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 08:56:13 -0600,
AMuzi wrote: On 2/15/2020 8:24 AM, Ted Heise wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:49:53 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 2:26 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop? We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not cheap, it's highly skilled labor. Who did yours? Did you do it yourself? I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten around to it! Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping analemma curves on my ceiling. If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these curves. It's terribly tedious. I asked because I couldn't think of a frame with hand painted graphics. I still can't recall one. The Waterford I bought back in 1998 had my name (in cursive) painted on it. I had assumed that was hand painted, but maybe it was not? In a thread tie (or maybe it was somewhere else in this thread?), I bought the Waterford because I was envious of my buddy's classic Paramount, and it seemed the closest I could come to it. Waterford script (and block) graphics are dry mount film transfers: http://www.yellowjersey.org/wfdrs33.jpg I know the guy who screens them. Interesting. Just to double confirm, they use the same process not just for the company name, but for the customer hame (i.e., a one off, unique to each bike)? -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA |
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On 2/15/2020 11:34 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 08:56:13 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 2/15/2020 8:24 AM, Ted Heise wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:49:53 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 2:26 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 1:29 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/14/2020 11:17 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: Separate question: Andrew, on my bike, the logos were hand lettered, not decals. Do you do that in your shop? We do not ourselves. We hire it out to an artist; not cheap, it's highly skilled labor. Who did yours? Did you do it yourself? I never attempted it. I did trace the original, hoping to try it someday, but it's 30 years later and I haven't gotten around to it! Vaguely related: For a few years, I've been nibbling away at a weird project, a "reflecting ceiling sundial." I'm at the point where I need to paint a complicated set of overlapping analemma curves on my ceiling. If I had a skilled pinstripe artist or sign painter who could work in an anti-gravity field, I'd hire him. But pinstriping brushes and rollers don't seem to work well upside down. I'm forced to double-mask dozens of these curves. It's terribly tedious. I asked because I couldn't think of a frame with hand painted graphics. I still can't recall one. The Waterford I bought back in 1998 had my name (in cursive) painted on it. I had assumed that was hand painted, but maybe it was not? In a thread tie (or maybe it was somewhere else in this thread?), I bought the Waterford because I was envious of my buddy's classic Paramount, and it seemed the closest I could come to it. Waterford script (and block) graphics are dry mount film transfers: http://www.yellowjersey.org/wfdrs33.jpg I know the guy who screens them. Interesting. Just to double confirm, they use the same process not just for the company name, but for the customer hame (i.e., a one off, unique to each bike)? Customer name or logo or motto (billing line says 'personalization') may be either hand lettered by a not staff artist, like striping: http://www.yellowjersey.org/wfdsam1.jpg or computer generated letters. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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