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"Mike Rice" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:11:54 -0600, "HH" wrote: "Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... snip . Only a savage and a barbarian like Frank K. would sink that low. snip I'm only guessing, but I'd bet Frank K. has never been called a savage and a barbarian in rec.bicycles.misc. Not even in one of their stupid helmet threads. Tough crowd in the recumbent room. Not really tough crowd, just one crusty coot behind the curtain doiing his best to scare off the villagers. ARBR has been at a low ebb, you'll not often find a crowd there as of late. Indiana Mike I am enlivening the group which would otherwise expire of terminal boredom. ARBR has been done in by a criminal vandal troll. That is because most of us on ARBR are elderly men who do not have much stomach for combat. As you can so plainly see, I am the exception. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"Johnny Sunset" wrote in message oups.com... HH wrote: "Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... snip . Only a savage and a barbarian like Frank K. would sink that low. snip I'm only guessing, but I'd bet Frank K. has never been called a savage and a barbarian in rec.bicycles.misc. Not even in one of their stupid helmet threads. Tough crowd in the recumbent room. See http://highracers.blogspot.com/2005/12/save-recumbent-community-join-lamfra.html for one person's opinion. If I went to this link and saw something I did not like (an obscenity for instance) I would have to spend the next half dozen posts taking Mr. Sherman to the woodshed. I am tired of doing that, so I won't bother going to his links anymore than I would bother going to the links of Ed Gin (the criminal vandal troll who destroyed ARBR). Mr. Sherman has always had a very strange sense of humor which I have never understood. Truth to tell I am not amused by anything anymore. That is for kids and dunces. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"Johnny Sunset" wrote in message ups.com... Peter Clinch wrote: ... One thing to bear in mind with 'bents is they have rather different performance characteristics to typical uprights. You'll typically be slower up hills, faster into headwinds and down hills. This can be a problem for all concerned if you're on a group tour on a hilly, windy circuit, depending on how much folk are happy to wait up and take it at a slowest pace. Lower machines can make life a little more awkward to speak to folk next to you, and the fact that other folk can't draft you can be an annoyance to some, though it'll depend on the group. Something to bear in mind if you're into group riding though. The most annoying thing on larger group rides is when a cluster of upright cyclists spread out and take up the whole road (or whole lane when there is oncoming traffic) on a descent. This forces the rider on an aerodynamic recumbent to ride the brakes all the way down the hill. I am sure these same upright riders would be "****ing and moaning" if a slow group of Fat Old Geezers (FOGs) on recumbents did the same on an uphill section. Recumbent cyclists like to go as fast as they can downhill to make up for their turtle pace going uphill. However, no matter how fast recumbents go downhill, they can never make it up. They will inevitably fall behind uprights. If you aren't fast going uphill, you are not in the game. Elementary, my dear Watson! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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In article ,
"Edward Dolan" writes: If I went to this link and saw something I did not like (an obscenity for instance) I would have to spend the next half dozen posts taking Mr. Sherman to the woodshed. Yeah, fantasy can be so grueling. I am tired of doing that, Scared-y cat. so I won't bother going to his links anymore than I would bother going to the links of Ed Gin (the criminal vandal troll who destroyed ARBR). Mr. Sherman has always had a very strange sense of humor which I have never understood. It's understandable that humour escapes you. Regards, Be fruitful, multiply, and go forth. While you're at it, I suggest designing/building yourself a real recumbent instead of buying that off-the-shelf, pre-made,stock stuff that inept lusers such as yourself resort to. Maybe it'll help improve your self-image. Especially if you can ride it around the block without tbe wheels falling off in the first hundred yards. -- -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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"Tom Keats" wrote in message ... [...] While you're at it, I suggest designing/building yourself a real recumbent instead of buying that off-the-shelf, pre-made,stock stuff that inept lusers such as yourself resort to. Maybe it'll help improve your self-image. Especially if you can ride it around the block without tbe wheels falling off in the first hundred yards. You bet, nothing like reinventing the wheel. That is what idiots do all the time. The only reason to build your own recumbent is to save some money. Otherwise, it is a waste of time and effort. Anyone on RBM build their own bikes? Of course not. That is because they have more brains than do we recumbent cyclists. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"Edward Dolan" writes: The only reason to build your own recumbent is to save some money. Otherwise, it is a waste of time and effort. Anyone on RBM build their own bikes? Of course not. You'd be surprised. You've gotcher tallbikes & chopperz -- things that are boldly in-yer-face, unlike your recessive, shy, shrinking-violet street luges that wanna get run over in the blind spots in front of cement trucks while you introvertedly avoid eye-contact or any other communication with fellow road users. Such self-wrapped cocoonery! That is because they have more brains than do we recumbent cyclists. Not brains. Balls. Speaking of which -- you're not so great after all, are you? -- -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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Be careful to which experts you defer your thinking Ed. In the case of H*lm*ts, the most vocal experts in favor are the manufacturers. I believe their primary interest is the $. Actually the most vocal group is pediatricians, followed by doctors in general. The manufacturers tend to be less vocal, because it would be seen as too self-serving. Do you feel it is irrelevant that the safest area in the world for cycling (the Netherlands) has perhaps the lowest incidence of h*lm*t use? The reason for this has been explained many times. It's due to differences in cycling road infrastructure, the attitudes of drivers towards cyclists, the near 100% use of lighting at night, etc. If you go to the Netherlands, you'll understand the difference. And what is your answer to the experts who point out that no population has ever shown a decrease in head impact injury when h*lm*t use increased? The population studies do show that a) cycling is not a dangerous activity, and b) compulsion laws are a bad idea. But don't fall for the junk science promulgated by people from the anti-compulsion side. They have taken spurious correlation to levels usually only seen in fake studies for OTC medications, herbal remedies, and diet pulls. I'm sure you are aware that h*lm*t threads take on a life of their own. You've seen it many times before. It is your kind of thread. Most folks have closed minds and will not think at all. That's fine, but what's sad is when the people with closed minds cause other people to close their minds as well. |
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Mike Rice wrote:
I have a friend who is a physical therapist. He has had patients who suffered debilitating head injury while riding without h*lm*ts and will never have a normal life as a result. He is a h*lm*t proponent. I have a relative that is also a PT, and she's has the same perspective. However I don't believe that doctors or PT's, who only deal with the injured patients, have a balanced view. It's fine for them to explain how helmets reduce the severity of head injuries, and certainly the ER and accident data shows this to be beyond question, but the number of such injuries is sufficiently low that compulsion, at least for adults, is not warranted. It's better to approach the issue through education, which will not alienate people. Ironically the biggest contribution toward more compulsion is the rash of junk science papers and articles generated by the anti-compulsion forces. The medical community feels obliged to respond in some way, and they have the respectability that is necessary to get the compulsion laws pushed through. |
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Edward Dolan wrote:
"The Wogster" wrote in message .. . Edward Dolan wrote: [...] Anyone who does not wear SOMETHING on their blasted head when in the great out of doors is uncivilized. If you were civilized you would know this much at least. But you are a barbarian and a savage who goes about the world uncovered. You belong in New Guinea, not the Western World. In the good old days, a gentleman of culture and leisure such as myself would not be caught dead out of doors without SOMETHING on his blasted head. I blame President Kennedy for setting in motion this penchant for not wearing anything on your blasted head. Frank, I urge you, put SOMETHING on that blasted head of yours, most especially when you are riding your bike. Otherwise, you will look like the dork and the jerk that you are. I am also of the notion that grown men should not be wearing baseball style of caps. They are for nerdy teenagers, not dignified men of the world. Go back to the 1930's if you would know what we should be wearing on our blasted heads. I suppose that means we need to wear a wool suit, tie and spats, with Oxfords to go along with that fedora. I spend 6 months of the year wearing a touque outside, typically wear a ball cap during the summer, when being active. They keep the sun off your head, the sun out of your eyes, work well for keeping rain out of your eyes as well. I do not like any kind of caps. Hats are what is called for for grown men. Caps are for kids. Men wearing caps look absurd. They look dorky and jerky. In winter, I would rather be a warm dork, then, well there has never been a proper hat, designed for winter use, except maybe those Russian things made from dead animal fur. They are heavy, and really kind of ugly. But most men dress like slobs these days in every respect. Men who wear blue jeans are especially hideous.The fatter and uglier we get, the worse we dress. The only solution is the grave when the world will be rid of our loathsome presence. There is, of course, a solution to that, more human powered miles, fewer car miles. The more calories you burn, given the same amount of food, the less weight you need to worry about. I refer you to the good old days of the 1930's and 1940's when men looked like men with proper hats on their heads. Apparently those days are gone forever and we are doomed to go into the future looking like very old kids with beanies on our heads and blue jeans on our asses. It is really quite laughable. If one does no physical activity faster then a walk or cycles at less then 7MPH, and does so only when the temperature is between 40F and 75F then clothing from those days would make sense. Mind you the practicality of denim outside of those temperature regions, also doesn't make sense, because it chaffs in the summer, and since it's cotton, it simply gets cold and wet in winter. One thing we have really gained, recently is activity centred clothing, where the way you dress, is indictive of activity, the stuffed shirt can wear a shirt and tie. The cyclist can wear cycling clothes, the hiker can wear hiking clothes (other then the pocket placement, and no need of a chamios) this is similar to cycling clothing. W |
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Mike Rice wrote:
I have a friend who is a physical therapist. He has had patients who suffered debilitating head injury while riding without h*lm*ts and will never have a normal life as a result. He is a h*lm*t proponent. Um, shouldn't you asterisk abusers also b*st*rdize the SUBJECT line?!? eg Bill "helmet h*ir" S. |
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