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It is covered in motorcycle training. On motorways, the legality of it
has always been debatable but the police “allow” it so long as is done with care. In traffic, the things to watch for are unannounced, all of a sudden right turns or u-turns from cars. Traffic pulling out from the left, (ie they are turning right but will be looking for traffic to their left and not expecting a two wheeled vehicle coming up on the outside). Oncoming traffic (obviously). Doors, it is rare that a driver will throw open their door in traffic but it does happen. Fag ends are a particular problem when they get thrown out of the window but when they are, and they just miss you if you shout “thanks” straight away as you pass the car, it freaks the hell out of the driver. PS chucking fag ends out of cars is illegal. Pedal cyclists filtering on the left have additional problems such as oncoming traffic turning right and the traffic they are passing turning left. Getting doored by a passenger getting out is a very real problem. Don’t be fooled by the provision of a cycle lane, a cycle lane in this instance is a very dangerous place. Then if you do get to the front, you need to get in front of the car in front to make sure they see you. If it is a larger vehicle, especially with a high cab, DON’T DO IT, wait behind. For others it was the last thing they did. Don’t be fooled by cycle lanes either, they offer no protection. And… Never ever ever (no never) filter on the left if there are railings, even if there is a cycle lane. If the traffic moves left or turns left you will die by crushing. -- Simon For personal replies, please use my reply-to address. |
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"Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message ... Pedal cyclists filtering on the left have additional problems such as oncoming traffic turning right and the traffic they are passing turning left. Getting doored by a passenger getting out is a very real problem. Don’t be fooled by the provision of a cycle lane, a cycle lane in this instance is a very dangerous place. I use left hand side cycle lanes all the time as they are about 1.5 metres wide and drivers tend to stay well clear of them meaning I have plenty of room to spare. -- Simon Mason http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ |
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On 14/11/2011 17:16, Simon Weaseltemper wrote:
It is covered in motorcycle training. On motorways, the legality of it has always been debatable but the police “allow” it so long as is done with care. In traffic, the things to watch for are unannounced, all of a sudden right turns or u-turns from cars. Traffic pulling out from the left, (ie they are turning right but will be looking for traffic to their left and not expecting a two wheeled vehicle coming up on the outside). Oncoming traffic (obviously). Doors, it is rare that a driver will throw open their door in traffic but it does happen. Fag ends are a particular problem when they get thrown out of the window but when they are, and they just miss you if you shout “thanks” straight away as you pass the car, it freaks the hell out of the driver. PS chucking fag ends out of cars is illegal. Pedal cyclists filtering on the left have additional problems such as oncoming traffic turning right and the traffic they are passing turning left. Getting doored by a passenger getting out is a very real problem. Don’t be fooled by the provision of a cycle lane, a cycle lane in this instance is a very dangerous place. Then if you do get to the front, you need to get in front of the car in front to make sure they see you. If it is a larger vehicle, especially with a high cab, DON’T DO IT, wait behind. For others it was the last thing they did. Don’t be fooled by cycle lanes either, they offer no protection. And… Never ever ever (no never) filter on the left if there are railings, even if there is a cycle lane. If the traffic moves left or turns left you will die by crushing. All well and good. Which Road Traffic Act defines it? Where is it mentioned in the Highway Code? |
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On 14/11/2011 19:14, JNugent wrote:
On 14/11/2011 17:16, Simon Weaseltemper wrote: It is covered in motorcycle training. On motorways, the legality of it has always been debatable but the police “allow” it so long as is done with care. In traffic, the things to watch for are unannounced, all of a sudden right turns or u-turns from cars. Traffic pulling out from the left, (ie they are turning right but will be looking for traffic to their left and not expecting a two wheeled vehicle coming up on the outside). Oncoming traffic (obviously). Doors, it is rare that a driver will throw open their door in traffic but it does happen. Fag ends are a particular problem when they get thrown out of the window but when they are, and they just miss you if you shout “thanks” straight away as you pass the car, it freaks the hell out of the driver. PS chucking fag ends out of cars is illegal. Pedal cyclists filtering on the left have additional problems such as oncoming traffic turning right and the traffic they are passing turning left. Getting doored by a passenger getting out is a very real problem. Don’t be fooled by the provision of a cycle lane, a cycle lane in this instance is a very dangerous place. Then if you do get to the front, you need to get in front of the car in front to make sure they see you. If it is a larger vehicle, especially with a high cab, DON’T DO IT, wait behind. For others it was the last thing they did. Don’t be fooled by cycle lanes either, they offer no protection. And… Never ever ever (no never) filter on the left if there are railings, even if there is a cycle lane. If the traffic moves left or turns left you will die by crushing. All well and good. Which Road Traffic Act defines it? Probably none Where is it mentioned in the Highway Code? Probably nowhere, it’s the kind of stuff you need to learn to stay alive. -- Simon For personal replies, please use my reply-to address. |
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On 14/11/2011 20:10, Simon Weaseltemper wrote:
On 14/11/2011 19:14, JNugent wrote: On 14/11/2011 17:16, Simon Weaseltemper wrote: It is covered in motorcycle training. On motorways, the legality of it has always been debatable but the police “allow” it so long as is done with care. In traffic, the things to watch for are unannounced, all of a sudden right turns or u-turns from cars. Traffic pulling out from the left, (ie they are turning right but will be looking for traffic to their left and not expecting a two wheeled vehicle coming up on the outside). Oncoming traffic (obviously). Doors, it is rare that a driver will throw open their door in traffic but it does happen. Fag ends are a particular problem when they get thrown out of the window but when they are, and they just miss you if you shout “thanks” straight away as you pass the car, it freaks the hell out of the driver. PS chucking fag ends out of cars is illegal. Pedal cyclists filtering on the left have additional problems such as oncoming traffic turning right and the traffic they are passing turning left. Getting doored by a passenger getting out is a very real problem. Don’t be fooled by the provision of a cycle lane, a cycle lane in this instance is a very dangerous place. Then if you do get to the front, you need to get in front of the car in front to make sure they see you. If it is a larger vehicle, especially with a high cab, DON’T DO IT, wait behind. For others it was the last thing they did. Don’t be fooled by cycle lanes either, they offer no protection. And… Never ever ever (no never) filter on the left if there are railings, even if there is a cycle lane. If the traffic moves left or turns left you will die by crushing. All well and good. Which Road Traffic Act defines it? Probably none Where is it mentioned in the Highway Code? Probably nowhere, it’s the kind of stuff you need to learn to stay alive. So it's unofficial, "folk" advice and nobody else is obliged to take the slightest notice of it? |
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JNugent wrote:
On 14/11/2011 20:10, Simon Weaseltemper wrote: On 14/11/2011 19:14, JNugent wrote: On 14/11/2011 17:16, Simon Weaseltemper wrote: It is covered in motorcycle training. On motorways, the legality of it has always been debatable but the police “allow” it so long as is done with care. In traffic, the things to watch for are unannounced, all of a sudden right turns or u-turns from cars. Traffic pulling out from the left, (ie they are turning right but will be looking for traffic to their left and not expecting a two wheeled vehicle coming up on the outside). Oncoming traffic (obviously). Doors, it is rare that a driver will throw open their door in traffic but it does happen. Fag ends are a particular problem when they get thrown out of the window but when they are, and they just miss you if you shout “thanks” straight away as you pass the car, it freaks the hell out of the driver. PS chucking fag ends out of cars is illegal. Pedal cyclists filtering on the left have additional problems such as oncoming traffic turning right and the traffic they are passing turning left. Getting doored by a passenger getting out is a very real problem. Don’t be fooled by the provision of a cycle lane, a cycle lane in this instance is a very dangerous place. Then if you do get to the front, you need to get in front of the car in front to make sure they see you. If it is a larger vehicle, especially with a high cab, DON’T DO IT, wait behind. For others it was the last thing they did. Don’t be fooled by cycle lanes either, they offer no protection. And… Never ever ever (no never) filter on the left if there are railings, even if there is a cycle lane. If the traffic moves left or turns left you will die by crushing. All well and good. Which Road Traffic Act defines it? Probably none Where is it mentioned in the Highway Code? Probably nowhere, it’s the kind of stuff you need to learn to stay alive. So it's unofficial, "folk" advice and nobody else is obliged to take the slightest notice of it? It is also frowned upon by insurance companies, they reduce claims for people thought to be 'filtering' |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:10:04 +0000, Simon Weaseltemper wrote:
On 14/11/2011 19:14, JNugent wrote: (of filtering) Which Road Traffic Act defines it? Probably none I don't think any road traffic act defines "wheel" either, but cars still have them. The implication that if a road traffic act doesn't define it it shouldn't be allowed on the road is a bit silly. Where is it mentioned in the Highway Code? Probably nowhere, it’s the kind of stuff you need to learn to stay alive. That's the wrong answer, however. The correct answer is rules 88 and 211, in both of which places filtering is mentioned without any indication that the motorcyclist or cyclist (as appropriate) should not be doing it. regards, Ian SMith -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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On 14/11/2011 22:23, Ian Smith wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:10:04 +0000, Simon wrote: On 14/11/2011 19:14, JNugent wrote: (of filtering) Which Road Traffic Act defines it? Probably none I don't think any road traffic act defines "wheel" either, but cars still have them. The implication that if a road traffic act doesn't define it it shouldn't be allowed on the road is a bit silly. Where is it mentioned in the Highway Code? Probably nowhere, it’s the kind of stuff you need to learn to stay alive. That's the wrong answer, however. The correct answer is rules 88 and 211, in both of which places filtering is mentioned without any indication that the motorcyclist or cyclist (as appropriate) should not be doing it. Or, indeed, that they should be doing it. I still remember my driving test, all those decade ago. The examiner told me that when he waved his clipboard in a particular way, I was to stop as soon as possible "as though a child had run into the road". I'm sure that was not meant to be interpreted as meaning that children *should* run into the road. |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:49:45 +0000, Simon Mason wrote:
"Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message ... Pedal cyclists filtering on the left have additional problems such as oncoming traffic turning right and the traffic they are passing turning left. Getting doored by a passenger getting out is a very real problem. Don’t be fooled by the provision of a cycle lane, a cycle lane in this instance is a very dangerous place. I use left hand side cycle lanes all the time as they are about 1.5 metres wide and drivers tend to stay well clear of them meaning I have plenty of room to spare. Left hand bicycle lanes fine. If no bicycle lane is marked I tend now simply not to filter down the left. Especially if the traffic is moving. -- An oft-repeated lie is still a lie. |
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On Nov 15, 1:21*am, Peter Keller wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:49:45 +0000, Simon Mason wrote: "Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message ... Pedal cyclists filtering on the left have additional problems such as oncoming traffic turning right and the traffic they are passing turning left. Getting doored by a passenger getting out is a very real problem.. Don’t be fooled by the provision of a cycle lane, a cycle lane in this instance is a very dangerous place. I use left hand side cycle lanes all the time as they are about 1.5 metres wide and drivers tend to stay well clear of them meaning I have plenty of room to spare. Left hand bicycle lanes fine. If no bicycle lane is marked I tend now simply not to filter down the left. *Especially if the traffic is moving. I simply filter down the left or right depending on which is easier. Makes no difference to me as long as I am making progress unlike the car drivers stuck "in traffic". -- Simon Mason |
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