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Old December 1st 07, 10:47 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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On 1 Dec 2007 02:24:20 GMT, Zebee Johnstone wrote:

But then just watch cyclists who are angry if someone says they should
stop at red lights, or not ride on the footpath.

I think it's really funny how cycle activists pretend cyclists don't get
angry if they are held up. Of course they do. But as breaking the
law is easy and consequences are few they seldom get held up. SO they
can keep pretending.


Same as motorcycle activists really, doesn't help so gloss over it.

Then there are the illegalities we do lobby about - riding across
pedestrian crossings for cyclists, using cycle lanes/shoulder for
motorcyclists - both at an appropriately reduced speed and deferring
to other users.
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Old December 1st 07, 11:03 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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In aus.bicycle on Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:55:50 +1100
Terryc wrote:
Zebee Johnstone wrote:

I won't take part *because* of the results. WHich I couldn't change
but would only reinforce.


So you have never attempted and never will attemp a meaningful
relationship with any one ? Same logic.


Eh?

You attempt relationships to change people? To even change lots of
people?

Ok... logic eh?

really? Then how come those who see it don't see that?


Because they don't want to.


Heh.

"It is the world that's wrong! It is! It is!"

Zebee
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Old December 1st 07, 11:05 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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In aus.bicycle on Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:47:51 +1100
Aeek wrote:
On 1 Dec 2007 02:24:20 GMT, Zebee Johnstone wrote:

But then just watch cyclists who are angry if someone says they should
stop at red lights, or not ride on the footpath.

I think it's really funny how cycle activists pretend cyclists don't get
angry if they are held up. Of course they do. But as breaking the
law is easy and consequences are few they seldom get held up. SO they
can keep pretending.


Same as motorcycle activists really, doesn't help so gloss over it.


Sure. THe reason that two wheelers can feel so superior about their
lack of gridlock is because they can do stuff because they are
physically narrow.

When something threatens to slow them down, they get just as annoyed
as 4 wheelers.

Pretending that only 4 wheelers suffer from that is silly.


Zebee
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Old December 1st 07, 11:15 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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This is going to be one fat troll...


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Old December 1st 07, 11:31 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:15:58 +1100, "Resound"
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This is going to be one fat troll...


Lochac Trolls are much more dangerous than the original trolls.
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Old December 1st 07, 12:31 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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Resound Wrote:
This is going to be one fat troll...


Floggin' a dead 'orse.

Fig A:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fuDDqU6n4o

Fig B (ad infinitum):
http://tinyurl.com/24pbrg


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Old December 1st 07, 02:47 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
In aus.bicycle on Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:55:50 +1100
Terryc wrote:

Zebee Johnstone wrote:


I won't take part *because* of the results. WHich I couldn't change
but would only reinforce.


So you have never attempted and never will attemp a meaningful
relationship with any one ? Same logic.



Eh?

You attempt relationships to change people? To even change lots of
people?


Because they don't want to.


Lol, thanks for the clear example of exactly what I was saying.

But because you are a bigoted idiot I will spell it out.

You do not take part in Critical Mass because simply riding,on the road
together with other bicyclists, which is a legal activity, might offend
some motorist. (But it is okay for motorist to drive on the road
together. Funny logic.).

If you applied your logic to relationships, then you'd never have a
relationship in case it didn't work out and someone was offended.

The bottom line is that you are just another arselicker who isn't
prepared to stand up. Every time somone post something critical of
critical mass, Zeebee jumps right in there with them.



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Old December 1st 07, 09:46 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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Terryc Wrote:
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
In aus.bicycle on Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:55:50 +1100
Terryc wrote:

Zebee Johnstone wrote:


I won't take part *because* of the results. WHich I couldn't

change
but would only reinforce.

So you have never attempted and never will attemp a meaningful
relationship with any one ? Same logic.



Eh?

You attempt relationships to change people? To even change lots of
people?


Because they don't want to.


Lol, thanks for the clear example of exactly what I was saying.

But because you are a bigoted idiot I will spell it out.

You do not take part in Critical Mass because simply riding,on the
road
together with other bicyclists, which is a legal activity, might
offend
some motorist. (But it is okay for motorist to drive on the road
together. Funny logic.).

If you applied your logic to relationships, then you'd never have a
relationship in case it didn't work out and someone was offended.

The bottom line is that you are just another arselicker who isn't
prepared to stand up. Every time somone post something critical of
critical mass, Zeebee jumps right in there with them.


The personal attack is borne of frustration when the argument isn't
going well...

fwiw, I haven't participated in a cm ride, though I note that I get
more abuse from motorists after one has just taken place than before it.
The cm crowd like to think they are helping - I'm not sure I can handle
more of this kind of help. There are plenty of other bicycle advocacy
groups out there if you want to make a difference, otherwise just make a
statement by being out there on the roads and set a good example.

As for whether cm folks are fundamentalist plonkers, I don't think so,
but I can tell them that they aren't helping relations between road
users. Other advocacy groups do.

Ritch


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Old December 1st 07, 11:12 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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ritcho wrote:

fwiw, I haven't participated in a cm ride, though I note that I get
more abuse from motorists after one has just taken place than before it.


But is cm responsible for this, or the radio shock jocks & ******
journalists?

The cm crowd like to think they are helping - I'm not sure I can handle
more of this kind of help.


But is CM to blame?
Or constable plod with their derogatory press releases?


There are plenty of other bicycle advocacy
groups out there if you want to make a difference,


Sadly, very few of these groups have made any difference ver the decades

As for whether cm folks are fundamentalist plonkers, I don't think so,


That just tells you who are the arse lickers who are not prepared to
stand up.


Other advocacy groups do.


I gave up holding my breath on this over thrity years ago, CM came about
because other groups are not effective. Many other groups have just
turned bicycle riding into a circus that performs off the road or has
been hijaccked for their income.
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Old December 1st 07, 11:47 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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ritcho wrote:

The bottom line is that you are just another arselicker who isn't
prepared to stand up.


The bottom line is that I don't believe that '****ed off/chip on the
shoulder people' represent my views very well most of the time.

You see I happen to believe that the way to change behaviour and views
is by education and not intimidation.


G-S


 




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