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Old July 7th 08, 11:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Ted Mittelstaedt
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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
m...
Oops - forgot to mention - the next day was a "Ride to Work Day" and some
new rider on a bike path struck the steel post in the center of the path

at
an intersection designed to keep cars off of the bike path, flipped over

the
handlebars and was killed instantly.


And from this we have learned, what?

1) To wear body armor when riding a 2 wheel vehicle at 30Mph?

2) To not go 30Mph when not wearing such armor?

Nahhhhhhh!!!!!

Don't worry, your in good company, look at all the squids that
get on motorcycles and ride around in jeans and a Tee Shirt
this time of year.

Ted


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Old July 7th 08, 11:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
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The answer is simple - stay off the paths and ride on the roads.


Heh,

Now why then do the cops usually tell us car drivers that the
simple answer is to -SLOW DOWN- and that you can be
given a ticket for not going at a safe speed for the conditions,
regardless of the posted speed?

Something doesen't compute, here... ;-)

Ted


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Old July 7th 08, 12:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 5 jul, 02:11, Joel Mayes wrote:

Most drum brakes will look up if poorly maintained, but are perfectly
safe in maintained regularly. Recumbent maker Greenspeed uses Sturmey
drums on their trikes and I've never heard of one locking up.


Thanks. It could be caused by poor maintanance. The bike was second
hand (or third?). Bought it from a well known shop for quite a lot of
money though. I bought a brand new bike after this. But I walk now
when going down hill...


When you said it locked, do you mean it just suddenly grabbed, but when
you let up on the brake it stopped grabbing? Or do you mean that you
squeezed it and something inside snapped, it locked, and only disassembly
of the brake was able to get the wheel turning again?

When you were going down that hill, and braking, were you lightly holding
on to the brake all the way down the hill (riding the brake all the way
down)
or were you periodically squeezing it hard to slow down, then letting it off
and continuing to coast down, picking up speed, until the next hard squeeze?

If you were riding it all the way down, well that's the wrong way to use
drum brakes. It heats them up the most.

Any -competent- bike shop should have been able to disassemble the
brake and tell you exactly what went wrong with it. Take it to another
shop.

Ted


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Old July 7th 08, 02:07 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Tom Kunich wrote:
"Peter Cole" wrote in message
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Tom Kunich wrote:

Coming down little Pinehurst on my Look, my clipless pedal broke out
and apparently my foot touched the ground at about 30 mph. The foot
and leg swung back and I suppose I pulled it forward to keep from
falling in the turn. Made it around the turn just as the foot swung
into the front wheel spokes breaking off the carbon fork blade.


Glad you're recovering. Just curious, did your pedal break, or did you
just come unclipped? What do you think caused it?


I was converting over to Crank Bros pedals. Their shoe clips were made
from a very soft material. Since you normally break out by rotating your
angle outwards this shoved the soft brass clip material the opposite way
building up a berm under that side of the clip and after about 1500
miles the slightest inward twist of your heal would cause the clip to
release from the pedal.

Crank Bros sent me a new set of clips that supposedly are much harder.
In the meantime I converted over to SPDs since their cleats wear a very
long time - over 10,000 miles according to some folks.

Since I used to use Look Delta exclusively, I went back to those and
they have such a solid, secure feel that I'll probably just use those
pedals and put up with the silly duckwalk cleats and covers.



Wow, that's scary. I'm thinking that the CB pedals don't have any stop
to prevent slipping sideways if the cleat disengages under a lateral load.

A friend of mine had a low speed twisting fall on a mountain bike trail
that resulted in a spiral fracture of his leg bone (multiple surgeries,
pins, plates, etc.). He was using Crank Bros pedals, which, for some
reason didn't release. He's since switched back to SPD.

A lot of people express concern of SPD accidental release, especially
with the "multi-release" style cleat (which I use). I've always felt
that MTB'ing was a much more demanding application for that, and if a
pedal didn't release when it shouldn't in the woods, then it wouldn't on
the road. It's possible that my friends mishap was no fault of the
pedal, just a fluke where the angles lined up to trap his foot against
the crank or something, but in over a decade of bouncing over roots and
rocks, pulling up steep ravines and twisting my body every which way to
maintain balance, I've never come out of (even worn) SPDs (set on light
release), nor have I ever had my foot trapped in any of countless
crashes, so I use them on my road bikes, too. I did pull out once,
winching up a climb that was about the limit for my fixed gear, with a
worn cleat on a sloppy fitting Wellgo SPD clone

Another friend of mine tore a knee ligament while walking in Look
cleats. They make excellent skates, especially on linoleum. I don't mean
to exploit your misfortune to make a rant -- just looking for another
data point, thanks.
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Old July 7th 08, 08:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
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On Jul 5, 3:44*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:

The answer is simple - stay off the paths and ride on the roads.

A cyclist usually loses in a cyclist to pedestrian collision, since the
cyclist goes over the bars and lands on his/her head. That is why I
prefer a bicycle that puts the chain wheels and my feet out front in
pedestrian infested areas.

An air horn is a good accessory to get the attention of the clueless.

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The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text -

Normally I would agree 100% - but just 2 weeks ago I had a young
person, 13 or so, stop at the edge of the street, look both ways for
CARs coming but not my bike, insert her iPod ear buds and step right
out in front of me - no crosswalk, just where she felt like crossing.
It was fortunate that her check for cars worked better than for bikes
as I was able to cut in front of her as a car would have hit both of
us otherwise. As others said, even the street isn't safe from
pedestrians and other bikes, although safer than a crowded path at
least.

Rick

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Old July 8th 08, 12:27 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
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Rick B? wrote:
On Jul 5, 3:44 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
The answer is simple - stay off the paths and ride on the roads.

A cyclist usually loses in a cyclist to pedestrian collision, since the
cyclist goes over the bars and lands on his/her head. That is why I
prefer a bicycle that puts the chain wheels and my feet out front in
pedestrian infested areas.

An air horn is a good accessory to get the attention of the clueless.

The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text -

Normally I would agree 100% - but just 2 weeks ago I had a young
person, 13 or so, stop at the edge of the street, look both ways for
CARs coming but not my bike, insert her iPod ear buds and step right
out in front of me - no crosswalk, just where she felt like crossing.
It was fortunate that her check for cars worked better than for bikes
as I was able to cut in front of her as a car would have hit both of
us otherwise. As others said, even the street isn't safe from
pedestrians and other bikes, although safer than a crowded path at
least.

The air horn is for the ear bud/headphone set, while a bell is good for
pedestrians with normal hearing. I prefer a bell with a longer ring, and
not the "single-ding" type.

The most stupid creature in the world is the college undergraduate
pedestrian, and is one of the greatest menaces the cyclist will ever
face. They get even worse after ingesting mood altering substances.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Old July 8th 08, 02:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Werehatrack wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:27:56 -0500, Tom Sherman
may have said:

The air horn is for the ear bud/headphone set, while a bell is good for
pedestrians with normal hearing. I prefer a bell with a longer ring, and
not the "single-ding" type.


I've had reasonable results with loud noise generaion devices against
iPod-induced tunnelsenses, but it sometimes fails to get their
attention when the earphone is a Bluetooth headset for their cell
phone, and the conversation is taking up all their processor time. I
wish a paintball bola was practical.

Handlebar mounted Taser?

The most stupid creature in the world is the college undergraduate
pedestrian, and is one of the greatest menaces the cyclist will ever
face. They get even worse after ingesting mood altering substances.


They're bad; I'm not sure if they're worse than the people with four
lap dogs on leashes, pulling in ~5.326 different directions.

Someone needs to design a bicycle mounted leash cutter for those 30-foot
long reel leashes.

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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Old July 8th 08, 02:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:27:56 -0500, Tom Sherman
may have said:

The air horn is for the ear bud/headphone set, while a bell is good for
pedestrians with normal hearing. I prefer a bell with a longer ring, and
not the "single-ding" type.


I've had reasonable results with loud noise generaion devices against
iPod-induced tunnelsenses, but it sometimes fails to get their
attention when the earphone is a Bluetooth headset for their cell
phone, and the conversation is taking up all their processor time. I
wish a paintball bola was practical.

The most stupid creature in the world is the college undergraduate
pedestrian, and is one of the greatest menaces the cyclist will ever
face. They get even worse after ingesting mood altering substances.


They're bad; I'm not sure if they're worse than the people with four
lap dogs on leashes, pulling in ~5.326 different directions.

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Old July 8th 08, 08:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
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On Jul 7, 3:18 pm, Rick wrote:
On Jul 5, 3:44 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:

The answer is simple - stay off the paths and ride on the roads.


A cyclist usually loses in a cyclist to pedestrian collision, since the
cyclist goes over the bars and lands on his/her head. That is why I
prefer a bicycle that puts the chain wheels and my feet out front in
pedestrian infested areas.


An air horn is a good accessory to get the attention of the clueless.


--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text -


Normally I would agree 100% - but just 2 weeks ago I had a young
person, 13 or so, stop at the edge of the street, look both ways for
CARs coming but not my bike, insert her iPod ear buds and step right
out in front of me - no crosswalk, just where she felt like crossing.
It was fortunate that her check for cars worked better than for bikes
as I was able to cut in front of her as a car would have hit both of
us otherwise. As others said, even the street isn't safe from
pedestrians and other bikes, although safer than a crowded path at
least.

Rick


For months I've been riding with my flashing LED headlight on even in
broad daylight. I've seen pedestrians and other cyclists do a double-
take when it's caught their peripheral vision, at least some of whom
were about to walk or ride into the street in front of me.

Part of it is that here essentially all motor vehicles have daytime
running lights (they've been mandatory on new cars in this country for
well over a decade) and I'm convinced that an unlit vehicle is at a
real disadvantage. I think road users have gotten into the habit of
not even looking for cars, but just looking for lights.

I also run my taillight too, but I'm much less convinced it makes any
difference.

Chip C
Toronto

 




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