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spoke count- MTB vs Road?
Hi all,
I'm a roadie who's thinking about building a mountain bike. I'm a bit of a Clydesdale, about 6'3" and 220 lbs. On my road bike, I use 36 spoke, 3x cross wheels that I built using Mavic CXP33 rims and a double-butted spoke- don't remember offhand which one. As I look at mountain bikes, it seems like the standard is 32 spoke and I don't hear about a lot of wheel issues. Are there some underlying reasons like stronger rims, maybe the wider rear axle requiring less dishing, or the diameter being a little smaller that let the lower counts work since it seems like MTB wheels would get a lot more abuse? I guess I'm looking for some reassurance that a well-done set of 32 spoke wheels will be ok for me or a recommendation that I should be looking for 36 spoke wheels. Thanks! Lyle |
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res09c5t wrote:
Hi all, I'm a roadie who's thinking about building a mountain bike. I'm a bit of a Clydesdale, about 6'3" and 220 lbs. On my road bike, I use 36 spoke, 3x cross wheels that I built using Mavic CXP33 rims and a double-butted spoke- don't remember offhand which one. As I look at mountain bikes, it seems like the standard is 32 spoke and I don't hear about a lot of wheel issues. Are there some underlying reasons like stronger rims, maybe the wider rear axle requiring less dishing, or the diameter being a little smaller that let the lower counts work since it seems like MTB wheels would get a lot more abuse? I guess I'm looking for some reassurance that a well-done set of 32 spoke wheels will be ok for me or a recommendation that I should be looking for 36 spoke wheels. Thanks! Lyle It's the smaller wheel size that's normally used as justification, but if I were you I'd go for the 36 spoke option. The weight difference is negligible and the (factory-built) 32 spoke wheels I used when I did a lot of mountain biking never stayed very true. For real piece of mind, MTB hubs are available with 48 holes - they need to be built up x4. |
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Per res09c5t:
Are there some underlying reasons like stronger rims, maybe the wider rear axle requiring less dishing, or the diameter being a little smaller that let the lower counts work since it seems like MTB wheels would get a lot more abuse? I guess I'm looking for some reassurance that a well-done set of 32 spoke wheels will be ok for me or a recommendation that I should be looking for 36 spoke wheels. I'm about 215. Been beating on my wheel sets for way over 5 years now. I'm not at all skilled or daring as a rider, but I probably make up for that wheel-stress-wise by sheer clumsiness. Only problems I've had are with an original set where the rear wheel was done on a rim which eventually started cracking around the nipple eyelets. That make/model rim has held up fine for front wheel use, but for rear wheel use I now use rims with double eyelets (or whatever the term of art is...). -- PeteCresswell |
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"Zog The Undeniable" wrote in message
... It's the smaller wheel size that's normally used as justification, but if I were you I'd go for the 36 spoke option. The weight difference is negligible and the (factory-built) 32 spoke wheels I used when I did a lot of mountain biking never stayed very true. For real piece of mind, MTB hubs are available with 48 holes - they need to be built up x4. TBH I'd stick with 36 - that's what we've got on the MTB tandem, and that's fine so far. cheers, clive |
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res09c5t wrote:
Hi all, I'm a roadie who's thinking about building a mountain bike. I'm a bit of a Clydesdale, about 6'3" and 220 lbs. On my road bike, I use 36 spoke, 3x cross wheels that I built using Mavic CXP33 rims and a double-butted spoke- don't remember offhand which one. As I look at mountain bikes, it seems like the standard is 32 spoke and I don't hear about a lot of wheel issues. Are there some underlying reasons like stronger rims, maybe the wider rear axle requiring less dishing, or the diameter being a little smaller that let the lower counts work since it seems like MTB wheels would get a lot more abuse? I guess I'm looking for some reassurance that a well-done set of 32 spoke wheels will be ok for me or a recommendation that I should be looking for 36 spoke wheels. Thanks! Lyle I'm 6'4" 235lbs I use 32 spoke wheels on all my bikes free ride and XC just make sure to use a 14 gauge spoke and a good quality hub also I find that Mavic rims take the abuse better then their brethren. |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:53:09 +0100, Zog The Undeniable
wrote: res09c5t wrote: Hi all, I'm a roadie who's thinking about building a mountain bike. I'm a bit of a Clydesdale, about 6'3" and 220 lbs. On my road bike, I use 36 spoke, 3x cross wheels that I built using Mavic CXP33 rims and a double-butted spoke- don't remember offhand which one. As I look at mountain bikes, it seems like the standard is 32 spoke and I don't hear about a lot of wheel issues. Are there some underlying reasons like stronger rims, maybe the wider rear axle requiring less dishing, or the diameter being a little smaller that let the lower counts work since it seems like MTB wheels would get a lot more abuse? I guess I'm looking for some reassurance that a well-done set of 32 spoke wheels will be ok for me or a recommendation that I should be looking for 36 spoke wheels. Thanks! Lyle It's the smaller wheel size that's normally used as justification, but if I were you I'd go for the 36 spoke option. The weight difference is negligible and the (factory-built) 32 spoke wheels I used when I did a lot of mountain biking never stayed very true. For real piece of mind, MTB hubs are available with 48 holes - they need to be built up x4. Why not 3X? ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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"Fred" wrote in message
... For real piece of mind, MTB hubs are available with 48 holes - they need to be built up x4. Why not 3X? 4x on 48H gives you the spokes coming out of the hub at the same angle as 3x with 36H. |
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wizardB wrote:
I'm 6'4" 235lbs I use 32 spoke wheels on all my bikes free ride and XC just make sure to use a 14 gauge spoke and a good quality hub also I find that Mavic rims take the abuse better then their brethren. Double-butted spokes will usually "take abuse" much better than plain gauge ones. They're not just for weight saving; they put a bit of stretch into the spoke at a point where it rarely breaks and doesn't need to be thick anyway. The hub is irrelevant, unless we're talking about Sturmey-Archer hubs with thin steel flanges which tend to break spokes at the elbow, but you won't be using one of those ;-) The wheel build is the most important factor. |
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On Aug 9, 10:58*am, "res09c5t" wrote:
Hi all, I'm a roadie who's thinking about building a mountain bike. *I'm a bit of a Clydesdale, about 6'3" and 220 lbs. *On my road bike, I use 36 spoke, 3x cross wheels that I built using Mavic CXP33 rims and a double-butted spoke- don't remember offhand which one. *As I look at mountain bikes, it seems like the standard is 32 spoke and I don't hear about a lot of wheel issues. Are there some underlying reasons like stronger rims, maybe the wider rear axle requiring less dishing, or the diameter being a little smaller that let the lower counts work since it seems like MTB wheels would get a lot more abuse? *I guess I'm looking for some reassurance that a well-done set of 32 spoke wheels will be ok for me or a recommendation that I should be looking for 36 spoke wheels. Thanks! Lyle Shorter spokes, heavier rim, big fat tire. BUT easy to find 36h MTB hubs and rims, don't let MO or a bike shop say they aren't available, cuz they are. 4 spokes make for a stronger wheel, all else being equal. NO reason to not use 36 spokes. |
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As a "clydesdale" your better choice would be 36 spokes. You might be
able to get away with 32 IF it's a full suspension frame w/good travel (the suspension has a long way to go before bottoming out) I usually ride 36 on my road tourer (I'm no clydesdale, not at 165-170), and I was worries when I got my new MTB and it had 32 spoke wheels (radial on the front) But I haven't broken anything yet. Although I don't ride like those "nuts" on ESPN either... ;-3) - - Compliments of: "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman" If you want to E-mail me use: ChrisZCorner "at" webtv "dot" net My website: http://geocities.com/czcorner |
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