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  #321  
Old May 22nd 20, 01:17 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 07:24:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 4:14:11 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:51:41 -0700, cyclintom wrote:


Stalking shows _such_ lack of class!


--
- Frank Krygowski

But telling me that from 2/3rds of the way across the US you could tell
what the trees are like is about as high class as it gets?


Come into the 18th Century at least. Then look to Google street view and
you'll coming into the 19th Centure.

I won't other mentioning the various times available on near map.


No one expects the Australian educational system to teach you how to interpret plain numbers or to be able to read it to begin with.


And thus speaks the pundit who never graduated from high school!
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John B.

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  #322  
Old May 22nd 20, 01:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 07:26:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 5:51:21 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:54:04 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 12:59:46 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
wrote:
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 10:47:36 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/20/2020 11:56 AM,
wrote:

I do not know what is going on...

FINALLY we agree!

... or why but one department of the CDC is showing huge differences
from those of the department Fauci heads. Since the one department
supplies actual figures to insurance companies they are FAR less likely
to be politicized.

Don't fixate on Fauci, Tom. There are over 100 other nations treating
this at least as seriously as the U.S. is doing. Data from all of them
confirms this is a real problem.

Do you really think they all really part of a huge global conspiracy
assembled just to make you look bad?

--
- Frank Krygowski

You live in Youngstown don't you? Should I send your postings to Heather?


A). That’s not at all classy. It wasn’t classy when Jobst did it to you and
it remains that way now.

B) I’m pretty sure that Frank’s wife knows his opinions and his political
leanings. I’m certain she would be more horrified with your posts than with
his responses to them.

But if there's one thing that shows real class it is telling me that a tree branch wasn't hanging over the bike lane and didn't hit me in the head. Now THAT is real class.

If his wife knows his spineless weaknesses that is her fault for remaining around.


Hmmmm.... Don't I remember you telling us that your wife divorced you?
Or maybe it was "ran away"? Or perhaps both? It is very noticeable
that you never mention a wife any more, so it must have been one or
the other. Mustn't it?


t least I didn't have to marry someone that can't speak the same language as me only because I had a retirement pension.


What ever are you talking about? If you are referring to my wife she
speaks Thai (two dialects), Lao, English, Chinese (Teo Chew),
Malaysian and Indonesian.

And how many languages are you fluent in, you ignorant Ass? You aren't
even fluent in the truth.
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cheers,

John B.

  #323  
Old May 22nd 20, 02:10 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 10:30:07 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/21/2020 9:26 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 5:51:21 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:54:04 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 12:59:46 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
wrote:
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 10:47:36 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/20/2020 11:56 AM,
wrote:

I do not know what is going on...

FINALLY we agree!

... or why but one department of the CDC is showing huge differences
from those of the department Fauci heads. Since the one department
supplies actual figures to insurance companies they are FAR less likely
to be politicized.

Don't fixate on Fauci, Tom. There are over 100 other nations treating
this at least as seriously as the U.S. is doing. Data from all of them
confirms this is a real problem.

Do you really think they all really part of a huge global conspiracy
assembled just to make you look bad?

--
- Frank Krygowski

You live in Youngstown don't you? Should I send your postings to Heather?


A). That’s not at all classy. It wasn’t classy when Jobst did it to you and
it remains that way now.

B) I’m pretty sure that Frank’s wife knows his opinions and his political
leanings. I’m certain she would be more horrified with your posts than with
his responses to them.

But if there's one thing that shows real class it is telling me that a tree branch wasn't hanging over the bike lane and didn't hit me in the head. Now THAT is real class.

If his wife knows his spineless weaknesses that is her fault for remaining around.

Hmmmm.... Don't I remember you telling us that your wife divorced you?
Or maybe it was "ran away"? Or perhaps both? It is very noticeable
that you never mention a wife any more, so it must have been one or
the other. Mustn't it?


t least I didn't have to marry someone that can't speak the same language as me only because I had a retirement pension.


Tom, your typical 20-year man retires from the US military
at a rate higher than I have ever earned in a year:

https://themilitarywallet.com/milita...orth-millions/

Which is probably appropriate given that I have only rarely
been at risk to my life at work.


I hate to tell you Andrew but there are a lot of errors in that story
:-)
The statement that an enlisted man can retire at 20 years having
attained the rank of Master Sergeant (E-7) is only half correct. An
enlisted man can retire after 20 years of service (no guarantee of
attaining E-7 rank :-)

The pay scale the article used for E-7 - $3,995.40. I believe today's
pay scale is actually $4,946.33. Or in other words a guy that reached
20 years this year would be paid 50% of that number, but what about
inflation? When I retired, in 1972, my base salary was 699.90/month
and with 20 years service I was entitled to 50% of that. Which, of
course was why I rushed out and got another job.

And yes, as time passed the retirement pay has been raised from time
to time but it has never attained anywhere close to current military
retirement pay.

No, I am not bitching, simply pointing out reality.
--
cheers,

John B.

  #324  
Old May 22nd 20, 02:17 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 07:24:31 -0700, cyclintom wrote:

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 4:14:11 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:51:41 -0700, cyclintom wrote:


Stalking shows _such_ lack of class!


--
- Frank Krygowski

But telling me that from 2/3rds of the way across the US you could
tell what the trees are like is about as high class as it gets?


Come into the 18th Century at least. Then look to Google street view
and you'll coming into the 19th Centure.

I won't other mentioning the various times available on near map.


No one expects the Australian educational system to teach you how to
interpret plain numbers or to be able to read it to begin with.


Most Australian kds learn their numbers before they start school. One of
their jobs at that age is going out to count the kangaroos in the top
paddock.

  #325  
Old May 22nd 20, 04:36 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Gravel bikes

On 19/5/20 11:51 am, news18 wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2020 21:42:56 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 5/18/2020 6:38 PM, James wrote:

I bought a gravel bike so that I have more variety of routes and places
to explore.Â* I often ride a mix of bitumen and gravel, and the MTB is
just a slug on bitumen.Â* Furthermore my gravel bike has 3 water bottles
in the main triangle, which is really handy around here in hot weather.
It's also good for towing my shopping trailer.


I certainly agree about mountain bikes being "slugs" on paved roads.


If you ride nobbies.

I have a friend who is not an avid cyclist, although he did some 1000
mile camping tours when much younger. He likes riding under a full moon,
and usually invites me to ride with him. I use one of my road bikes, he
uses his mountain bike. In fact, he uses it everywhere, except off road.
He has no interest in riding on dirt.

At one time, he mentioned that he still had his 1970s Trek touring bike,
but it needed lots of work. I said that bike would be much more
appropriate for his riding and offered to overhaul it for him. And I put
many hours into a complete overhaul. (I may have mentioned having to
disassemble the Campy touring rear derailleur to get it working.)

He came to get the completed bike, test rode it once around my block and
said he didn't like it. It didn't feel stable enough for him. AFAIK he's
never ridden it since.


Did you set it up for racing or touring?


Most of the difference is in the steering. The angle of the head tube
and trail is different on a MTB.

I find riding a MTB no hands is challenging, and easy with on a road or
gravel bike.

YMMV

MTBs typically also have suspension forks and almost flat handlebars.
The former adds a heap of unnecessary weight and the latter encourages a
sit up and beg riding position, with little opportunity for change.

--
JS
  #326  
Old May 22nd 20, 05:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Gravel bikes

On Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:36:12 UTC-4, James wrote:
On 19/5/20 11:51 am, news18 wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2020 21:42:56 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 5/18/2020 6:38 PM, James wrote:

I bought a gravel bike so that I have more variety of routes and places
to explore.Â* I often ride a mix of bitumen and gravel, and the MTB is
just a slug on bitumen.Â* Furthermore my gravel bike has 3 water bottles
in the main triangle, which is really handy around here in hot weather.

  #327  
Old May 22nd 20, 07:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Gravel bikes

On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 6:04:15 AM UTC+2, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:36:12 UTC-4, James wrote:
On 19/5/20 11:51 am, news18 wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2020 21:42:56 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 5/18/2020 6:38 PM, James wrote:

I bought a gravel bike so that I have more variety of routes and places
to explore.Â* I often ride a mix of bitumen and gravel, and the MTB is
just a slug on bitumen.Â* Furthermore my gravel bike has 3 water bottles
in the main triangle, which is really handy around here in hot weather.
It's also good for towing my shopping trailer.

I certainly agree about mountain bikes being "slugs" on paved roads.

If you ride nobbies.

I have a friend who is not an avid cyclist, although he did some 1000
mile camping tours when much younger. He likes riding under a full moon,
and usually invites me to ride with him. I use one of my road bikes, he
uses his mountain bike. In fact, he uses it everywhere, except off road.
He has no interest in riding on dirt.

At one time, he mentioned that he still had his 1970s Trek touring bike,
but it needed lots of work. I said that bike would be much more
appropriate for his riding and offered to overhaul it for him. And I put
many hours into a complete overhaul. (I may have mentioned having to
disassemble the Campy touring rear derailleur to get it working.)

He came to get the completed bike, test rode it once around my block and
said he didn't like it. It didn't feel stable enough for him. AFAIK he's
never ridden it since.

Did you set it up for racing or touring?


Most of the difference is in the steering. The angle of the head tube
and trail is different on a MTB.

I find riding a MTB no hands is challenging, and easy with on a road or
gravel bike.

YMMV

MTBs typically also have suspension forks and almost flat handlebars.
The former adds a heap of unnecessary weight and the latter encourages a
sit up and beg riding position, with little opportunity for change.

--
JS


I have a number of old rigid frame, rigid front fork MTBs that I've converted to dropbar dirt/gravel roads and/or touring bikes. I like the 26" MTB size wheels because tires are so varied in possible choices. I can tires from 50+mm to 25.4mm online if not in the bicycle shop. Anything from slicks to aggressive knobs are available. In my honest opinion that's about the most versatile wheel size there is. Others, well, YMMV

Cheers


Before gravel bikes were 'invented'/became popular the crossbike was the way to go for off road riding if you didn't want to ride a sluggish ATB. Because of the UCI limitation for cross bikes the choice of tyres was very limited. Now with the gravel bikes the choice is huge.

Lou
  #328  
Old May 22nd 20, 02:35 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 5/21/2020 11:04 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:36:12 UTC-4, James wrote:
On 19/5/20 11:51 am, news18 wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2020 21:42:56 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 5/18/2020 6:38 PM, James wrote:

I bought a gravel bike so that I have more variety of routes and places
to explore. I often ride a mix of bitumen and gravel, and the MTB is
just a slug on bitumen. Furthermore my gravel bike has 3 water bottles
in the main triangle, which is really handy around here in hot weather.
It's also good for towing my shopping trailer.

I certainly agree about mountain bikes being "slugs" on paved roads.

If you ride nobbies.

I have a friend who is not an avid cyclist, although he did some 1000
mile camping tours when much younger. He likes riding under a full moon,
and usually invites me to ride with him. I use one of my road bikes, he
uses his mountain bike. In fact, he uses it everywhere, except off road.
He has no interest in riding on dirt.

At one time, he mentioned that he still had his 1970s Trek touring bike,
but it needed lots of work. I said that bike would be much more
appropriate for his riding and offered to overhaul it for him. And I put
many hours into a complete overhaul. (I may have mentioned having to
disassemble the Campy touring rear derailleur to get it working.)

He came to get the completed bike, test rode it once around my block and
said he didn't like it. It didn't feel stable enough for him. AFAIK he's
never ridden it since.

Did you set it up for racing or touring?


Most of the difference is in the steering. The angle of the head tube
and trail is different on a MTB.

I find riding a MTB no hands is challenging, and easy with on a road or
gravel bike.

YMMV

MTBs typically also have suspension forks and almost flat handlebars.
The former adds a heap of unnecessary weight and the latter encourages a
sit up and beg riding position, with little opportunity for change.

--
JS


I have a number of old rigid frame, rigid front fork MTBs that I've converted to dropbar dirt/gravel roads and/or touring bikes. I like the 26" MTB size wheels because tires are so varied in possible choices. I can tires from 50+mm to 25.4mm online if not in the bicycle shop. Anything from slicks to aggressive knobs are available. In my honest opinion that's about the most versatile wheel size there is. Others, well, YMMV

Cheers


You are not alone in that analysis:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/3rmt.html

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  #329  
Old May 22nd 20, 03:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 11:19:15 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 6:04:15 AM UTC+2, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:36:12 UTC-4, James wrote:
On 19/5/20 11:51 am, news18 wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2020 21:42:56 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 5/18/2020 6:38 PM, James wrote:

I bought a gravel bike so that I have more variety of routes and places
to explore.Â* I often ride a mix of bitumen and gravel, and the MTB is
just a slug on bitumen.Â* Furthermore my gravel bike has 3 water bottles
in the main triangle, which is really handy around here in hot weather.
It's also good for towing my shopping trailer.

I certainly agree about mountain bikes being "slugs" on paved roads.

If you ride nobbies.

I have a friend who is not an avid cyclist, although he did some 1000
mile camping tours when much younger. He likes riding under a full moon,
and usually invites me to ride with him. I use one of my road bikes, he
uses his mountain bike. In fact, he uses it everywhere, except off road.
He has no interest in riding on dirt.

At one time, he mentioned that he still had his 1970s Trek touring bike,
but it needed lots of work. I said that bike would be much more
appropriate for his riding and offered to overhaul it for him. And I put
many hours into a complete overhaul. (I may have mentioned having to
disassemble the Campy touring rear derailleur to get it working.)

He came to get the completed bike, test rode it once around my block and
said he didn't like it. It didn't feel stable enough for him. AFAIK he's
never ridden it since.

Did you set it up for racing or touring?

Most of the difference is in the steering. The angle of the head tube
and trail is different on a MTB.

I find riding a MTB no hands is challenging, and easy with on a road or
gravel bike.

YMMV

MTBs typically also have suspension forks and almost flat handlebars.
The former adds a heap of unnecessary weight and the latter encourages a
sit up and beg riding position, with little opportunity for change.

--
JS


I have a number of old rigid frame, rigid front fork MTBs that I've converted to dropbar dirt/gravel roads and/or touring bikes. I like the 26" MTB size wheels because tires are so varied in possible choices. I can tires from 50+mm to 25.4mm online if not in the bicycle shop. Anything from slicks to aggressive knobs are available. In my honest opinion that's about the most versatile wheel size there is. Others, well, YMMV

Cheers


Before gravel bikes were 'invented'/became popular the crossbike was the way to go for off road riding if you didn't want to ride a sluggish ATB. Because of the UCI limitation for cross bikes the choice of tyres was very limited. Now with the gravel bikes the choice is huge.

Lou


I'm not quite sure what you mean by limited. The cross bikes I've had all would take 32 mm tires and if you use any larger you end up with the same sluggishness as an MTB.

I have a local course with short uphill stretches of perhaps 100 meters of 24% or more loose rock. NO cross bike will go up those but I could get 7/8ths of the way to the top before carrying them the rest of the way. I did manage to go all the way to the top with a full suspension bike but they are very heavy on the front end and you don't have to worry about them lifting a front wheel.

The shorter 20% I would ride over. The downhill sections are 30% and more in sections and 32 mm tires are too much traction. That is dangerous to try and do more than try to slow yourself for the next hairpin turn. The idea is to wait for a flatter section and cram on the brakes to slow you for the next steep section. One particularly nasty area was only 40 meters long but covered entirely with cross hatched rain ruts and 40%. The idea was to hit that fast enough that you got through it and onto the flat before you lost control.

With a full suspension you just rode through it at any speed you wanted to go.

But climbing I would run away from MTB's. Especially full suspension models which are so heavy. I'm told that the very top end are no heavier than a cross bike but I would have to see them to believe it.

I see people with 36 or even 42 mm tires on cross bikes but I'm sure that they don't ride any real off-road.
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Old May 22nd 20, 03:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 6:35:26 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/21/2020 11:04 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:36:12 UTC-4, James wrote:
On 19/5/20 11:51 am, news18 wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2020 21:42:56 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 5/18/2020 6:38 PM, James wrote:

I bought a gravel bike so that I have more variety of routes and places
to explore. I often ride a mix of bitumen and gravel, and the MTB is
just a slug on bitumen. Furthermore my gravel bike has 3 water bottles
in the main triangle, which is really handy around here in hot weather.
It's also good for towing my shopping trailer.

I certainly agree about mountain bikes being "slugs" on paved roads.

If you ride nobbies.

I have a friend who is not an avid cyclist, although he did some 1000
mile camping tours when much younger. He likes riding under a full moon,
and usually invites me to ride with him. I use one of my road bikes, he
uses his mountain bike. In fact, he uses it everywhere, except off road.
He has no interest in riding on dirt.

At one time, he mentioned that he still had his 1970s Trek touring bike,
but it needed lots of work. I said that bike would be much more
appropriate for his riding and offered to overhaul it for him. And I put
many hours into a complete overhaul. (I may have mentioned having to
disassemble the Campy touring rear derailleur to get it working.)

He came to get the completed bike, test rode it once around my block and
said he didn't like it. It didn't feel stable enough for him. AFAIK he's
never ridden it since.

Did you set it up for racing or touring?

Most of the difference is in the steering. The angle of the head tube
and trail is different on a MTB.

I find riding a MTB no hands is challenging, and easy with on a road or
gravel bike.

YMMV

MTBs typically also have suspension forks and almost flat handlebars.
The former adds a heap of unnecessary weight and the latter encourages a
sit up and beg riding position, with little opportunity for change.

--
JS


I have a number of old rigid frame, rigid front fork MTBs that I've converted to dropbar dirt/gravel roads and/or touring bikes. I like the 26" MTB size wheels because tires are so varied in possible choices. I can tires from 50+mm to 25.4mm online if not in the bicycle shop. Anything from slicks to aggressive knobs are available. In my honest opinion that's about the most versatile wheel size there is. Others, well, YMMV

Cheers


You are not alone in that analysis:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/3rmt.html

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


Tire availability aside there was a reason that MTB's went to 29" (700c). 26" tires stick in places that the larger diameter simply rolls over.
 




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