Cyclists are 9 percent of the road casualties in Leeds

"A campaign has started in Leeds to stop cyclists dying in the city. In the
last year 255 cyclists were injured on the roads. 45 of them were seriously
injured and one person was killed. This means cyclists make up 9% of the
overall casualty total - an increase from 7% in 2008

Four out of five collisions happen on weekdays during morning and evening
commutes. The road with the highest casualty rate in the city is the A660,
with the most common cause being where a driver signals to allow another to
turn right in front of them into a side road. The turn vehicle then collides
with a cyclist, who is travelling up the inside of the traffic."

Easy answer to the last bit, just make it illegal with a huge penaty to
undertake any vehicle AND enforce it.


http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/201...s-to-cyclists/

On May 29, 2:36*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
"A campaign has started in Leeds to stop cyclists dying in the city. In the
last year 255 cyclists were injured on the roads. 45 of them were seriously
injured and one person was killed. This means cyclists make up 9% of the
overall casualty total - an increase from 7% in 2008

Four out of five collisions happen on weekdays during morning and evening
commutes. The road with the highest casualty rate in the city is the A660,
with the most common cause being where a driver signals to allow another to
turn right in front of them into a side road. The turn vehicle then collides
with a cyclist, who is travelling up the inside of the traffic."

Easy answer to the last bit, just make it illegal with a huge penaty to
undertake any vehicle AND enforce it.


Isn't this a multi-lane road?

On 29/05/2012 16:38, Squashme wrote:

On May 29, 2:36 pm, wrote:

"A campaign has started in Leeds to stop cyclists dying in the city. In the
last year 255 cyclists were injured on the roads. 45 of them were seriously
injured and one person was killed. This means cyclists make up 9% of the
overall casualty total - an increase from 7% in 2008

Four out of five collisions happen on weekdays during morning and evening
commutes. The road with the highest casualty rate in the city is the A660,
with the most common cause being where a driver signals to allow another to
turn right in front of them into a side road. The turn vehicle then collides
with a cyclist, who is travelling up the inside of the traffic."

Easy answer to the last bit, just make it illegal with a huge penaty to
undertake any vehicle AND enforce it.

Isn't this a multi-lane road?

You're still only supposed to overtake on the nearside when the vehicle being
undertaken is stopped for a right turn *and* (not "or) is signalling right or
when the traffic is moving slowly in queues.

And yes, "moving slowly in queues" is problematic and perhaps needs a legal
definition.

On May 29, 5:38*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 29/05/2012 16:38, Squashme wrote:

On May 29, 2:36 pm, *wrote:
"A campaign has started in Leeds to stop cyclists dying in the city. In the
last year 255 cyclists were injured on the roads. 45 of them were seriously
injured and one person was killed. This means cyclists make up 9% of the
overall casualty total - an increase from 7% in 2008
Four out of five collisions happen on weekdays during morning and evening
commutes. The road with the highest casualty rate in the city is the A660,
with the most common cause being where a driver signals to allow another to
turn right in front of them into a side road. The turn vehicle then collides
with a cyclist, who is travelling up the inside of the traffic."
Easy answer to the last bit, just make it illegal with a huge penaty to
undertake any vehicle AND enforce it.
Isn't this a multi-lane road?

You're still only supposed to overtake on the nearside when the vehicle being
undertaken is stopped for a right turn *and* (not "or) is signalling right or
when the traffic is moving slowly in queues.

And yes, "moving slowly in queues" is problematic and perhaps needs a legal
definition.

I always take it as less than the "speed limit" for the road. Police
still hog the outside lane at 2mph under the speed limit with a trail
of cars behind and I pass on the nearside. As I don't cut in front of
them or exceed the limit they have no business with me. It is they
who are in the wrong, not the road-user who keeps to the left of the
carriageway.

On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:36:00 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

"A campaign has started in Leeds to stop cyclists dying in the city. In the
last year 255 cyclists were injured on the roads. 45 of them were seriously
injured and one person was killed. This means cyclists make up 9% of the
overall casualty total - an increase from 7% in 2008

If cyclist numbers have increased by 30% or more since 2008, then
cyclist casualty rates are falling.

Four out of five collisions happen on weekdays during morning and evening
commutes. The road with the highest casualty rate in the city is the A660,
with the most common cause being where a driver signals to allow another to
turn right in front of them into a side road. The turn vehicle then collides
with a cyclist, who is travelling up the inside of the traffic."

Easy answer to the last bit, just make it illegal with a huge penaty to
undertake any vehicle AND enforce it.


http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/201...s-to-cyclists/

Perhaps drivers should look before they manoeuvre.

However, the key does seem to be more respect for each other on both
sides. Wanton filtering up the inside of slow moving or stationary
traffic does seem to be asking for trouble. But slow and cautious
filtering up the inside of cars is one of the big advantages of the
bicycle over the motor vehicle on crowded city streets.

The design flaws of some large vehicles mean that cyclists should be
exceptionally cautious about filtering past them.

On 29/05/2012 18:20, thirty-six wrote:
On May 29, 5:38 pm, wrote:
On 29/05/2012 16:38, Squashme wrote:

On May 29, 2:36 pm, wrote:
"A campaign has started in Leeds to stop cyclists dying in the city. In the
last year 255 cyclists were injured on the roads. 45 of them were seriously
injured and one person was killed. This means cyclists make up 9% of the
overall casualty total - an increase from 7% in 2008
Four out of five collisions happen on weekdays during morning and evening
commutes. The road with the highest casualty rate in the city is the A660,
with the most common cause being where a driver signals to allow another to
turn right in front of them into a side road. The turn vehicle then collides
with a cyclist, who is travelling up the inside of the traffic."
Easy answer to the last bit, just make it illegal with a huge penaty to
undertake any vehicle AND enforce it.
Isn't this a multi-lane road?

You're still only supposed to overtake on the nearside when the vehicle being
undertaken is stopped for a right turn *and* (not "or) is signalling right or
when the traffic is moving slowly in queues.

And yes, "moving slowly in queues" is problematic and perhaps needs a legal
definition.

I always take it as less than the "speed limit" for the road. Police
still hog the outside lane at 2mph under the speed limit with a trail
of cars behind and I pass on the nearside. As I don't cut in front of
them or exceed the limit they have no business with me. It is they
who are in the wrong, not the road-user who keeps to the left of the
carriageway.

If you wish, you are allowed to be right in your own mind, and dead. No-one
can stop you.

On May 29, 7:02*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 29/05/2012 18:20, thirty-six wrote:









On May 29, 5:38 pm, *wrote:
On 29/05/2012 16:38, Squashme wrote:

On May 29, 2:36 pm, * *wrote:
"A campaign has started in Leeds to stop cyclists dying in the city. In the
last year 255 cyclists were injured on the roads. 45 of them were seriously
injured and one person was killed. This means cyclists make up 9% of the
overall casualty total - an increase from 7% in 2008
Four out of five collisions happen on weekdays during morning and evening
commutes. The road with the highest casualty rate in the city is the A660,
with the most common cause being where a driver signals to allow another to
turn right in front of them into a side road. The turn vehicle then collides
with a cyclist, who is travelling up the inside of the traffic."
Easy answer to the last bit, just make it illegal with a huge penaty to
undertake any vehicle AND enforce it.
Isn't this a multi-lane road?

You're still only supposed to overtake on the nearside when the vehicle being
undertaken is stopped for a right turn *and* (not "or) is signalling right or
when the traffic is moving slowly in queues.

And yes, "moving slowly in queues" is problematic and perhaps needs a legal
definition.

I always take it as less than the "speed limit" for the road. * Police
still hog the outside lane at 2mph under the speed limit with a trail
of cars behind and I pass on the nearside. *As I don't cut in front of
them or exceed the limit they have no business with me. *It is they
who are in the wrong, not the road-user who keeps to the left of the
carriageway.

If you wish, you are allowed to be right in your own mind, and dead. No-one
can stop you.

I always make sure there is evasion space should someone cut across.
The conditions when someone decides they have had enough of playing
follow the leader are usually predictable so the stress levels I
ekperience are well controlled.

On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:36:00 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

"A campaign has started in Leeds to stop cyclists dying in the city. In the
last year 255 cyclists were injured on the roads. 45 of them were seriously
injured and one person was killed. This means cyclists make up 9% of the
overall casualty total - an increase from 7% in 2008

Four out of five collisions happen on weekdays during morning and evening
commutes. The road with the highest casualty rate in the city is the A660,
with the most common cause being where a driver signals to allow another to
turn right in front of them into a side road. The turn vehicle then collides
with a cyclist, who is travelling up the inside of the traffic."

Easy answer to the last bit, just make it illegal with a huge penaty to
undertake any vehicle AND enforce it.

Thats a fantastic idea. Make all cyclists overtake on the right and
fine any car driver who tries to re-overtake them on the left.

Cassandra wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:36:00 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

"A campaign has started in Leeds to stop cyclists dying in the city.
In the last year 255 cyclists were injured on the roads. 45 of them
were seriously injured and one person was killed. This means
cyclists make up 9% of the overall casualty total - an increase from
7% in 2008

Four out of five collisions happen on weekdays during morning and
evening commutes. The road with the highest casualty rate in the
city is the A660, with the most common cause being where a driver
signals to allow another to turn right in front of them into a side
road. The turn vehicle then collides with a cyclist, who is
travelling up the inside of the traffic."

Easy answer to the last bit, just make it illegal with a huge penaty
to undertake any vehicle AND enforce it.

Thats a fantastic idea. Make all cyclists overtake on the right and
fine any car driver who tries to re-overtake them on the left.

one of the rules of the road is that you drive on the left except when
overtaking, turning right etc. If cyclists obeyed the rules they would not
get splattered.

Mrcheerful wrote:
Cassandra wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:36:00 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

"A campaign has started in Leeds to stop cyclists dying in the city.
In the last year 255 cyclists were injured on the roads. 45 of them
were seriously injured and one person was killed. This means
cyclists make up 9% of the overall casualty total - an increase from
7% in 2008

Four out of five collisions happen on weekdays during morning and
evening commutes. The road with the highest casualty rate in the
city is the A660, with the most common cause being where a driver
signals to allow another to turn right in front of them into a side
road. The turn vehicle then collides with a cyclist, who is
travelling up the inside of the traffic."

Easy answer to the last bit, just make it illegal with a huge penaty
to undertake any vehicle AND enforce it.

Thats a fantastic idea. Make all cyclists overtake on the right and
fine any car driver who tries to re-overtake them on the left.

one of the rules of the road is that you drive on the left except when
overtaking, turning right etc. If cyclists obeyed the rules they
would not get splattered.

and deliberate blocking of traffic is called obstruction and is of course
illegal.