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66 percent of cyclists ignore red lights
"Mrcheerful" wrote
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-29436118.html Selective sampling can produce any result you want Maybe the thing to do is look at junctions where compliance is low and grub those lights up. Plenty of candidates can be found even before looking at cyclist behaviour. |
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:38:12 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:59:26 +0100, Judith wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:27:06 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: wrote: On Sunday, 21 July 2013 22:16:07 UTC+1, Mrcheerful wrote: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-29436118.html The Republic (there's a clue here) of Ireland is no longer part of the UK, it was granted independence almost a century ago. Do keep up. Then I should have marked it OT, sorry. The particularly interesting bit about the story is that Ireland is having a crackdown on RLJ cyclists and is to introduce on the spot fines of 50 euros from next year. Apparently this has worked marvellously in places that have enforced it, reducing cylists RLJ to miniscule levels. I think something similar is need here to crack down on the lycra law-breakers. (© Crispin) Will the term "lycra law-breaker" now produce a Pavlovian response from you? many thanks for repeating it. -- Bertie Wooster's real name is Tom Crispin. He uses the name Bertie Wooster so that people involved with Young Lewisham and Greenwich Cyclists can't see what a tosser he is. |
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, JNugent wrote:
picture which otherwise, you cannot explain except in terms of it depicting exactly what the caption says it depicts. Let's see. The picture depicts a cyclist who has not crossed the stop line at a traffic light that is red. In your world this plainly proves that the cyclist disregarded the red light? Do you think cyclists should stop immediately they come into sight of any red traffic light and put both feet on the ground until it turns green? -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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Ian Smith wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, JNugent wrote: picture which otherwise, you cannot explain except in terms of it depicting exactly what the caption says it depicts. Let's see. The picture depicts a cyclist who has not crossed the stop line at a traffic light that is red. In your world this plainly proves that the cyclist disregarded the red light? Do you think cyclists should stop immediately they come into sight of any red traffic light and put both feet on the ground until it turns green? They should slow or stop (if safe to do so) so that they do not cross the Stop line while the lamp shows Red or Amber or a combination of the two, the law is quite clear on this and it is explained in the Highway Code. Whether they need to put one or both feet down is totally irrelevent and both your questions appear to be red herrings to divert attention away from the actual subject. |
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:43:04 +0100, JNugent
wrote: On 22/07/2013 10:36, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:54:58 +0100, Judith wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 08:27:55 +0100, Bertie Wooster wrote: snip Why would I be embarrassed by what happens in Ireland? "Lycra law-breakers" exist throughout the world? Are you proud of that then? Law-breakers exist throughout the world. I am proud that law-breaking is in steep decline in this country. Not, unfortunately, among cyclists. Have you the statistics to support that claim? |
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:40:36 +0100, Mrcheerful wrote:
Ian Smith wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, JNugent wrote: picture which otherwise, you cannot explain except in terms of it depicting exactly what the caption says it depicts. Let's see. The picture depicts a cyclist who has not crossed the stop line at a traffic light that is red. In your world this plainly proves that the cyclist disregarded the red light? Do you think cyclists should stop immediately they come into sight of any red traffic light and put both feet on the ground until it turns green? They should slow or stop (if safe to do so) so that they do not cross the Stop line while the lamp shows Red or Amber or a combination of the two, the law is quite clear on this and it is explained in the Highway Code. Yes. And does the photograph show that the cyclist crossed the stop line while the light was red? Or does it perhaps show a cyclist approaching the line while the light is red? Is that illegal? Is it breaking the law to approach the stop line while the light is red? Is teh cyclist in teh photo breaking the law? Whether they need to put one or both feet down is totally irrelevent and both your questions appear to be red herrings to divert attention away from the actual subject. The actual subject is does the photo show a cyclist who has broken the law. The actual answer is only if you think cyclists break the law by approaching a stop line while the light is red. -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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Ian Smith wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:40:36 +0100, Mrcheerful wrote: Ian Smith wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, JNugent wrote: picture which otherwise, you cannot explain except in terms of it depicting exactly what the caption says it depicts. Let's see. The picture depicts a cyclist who has not crossed the stop line at a traffic light that is red. In your world this plainly proves that the cyclist disregarded the red light? Do you think cyclists should stop immediately they come into sight of any red traffic light and put both feet on the ground until it turns green? They should slow or stop (if safe to do so) so that they do not cross the Stop line while the lamp shows Red or Amber or a combination of the two, the law is quite clear on this and it is explained in the Highway Code. Yes. And does the photograph show that the cyclist crossed the stop line while the light was red? Or does it perhaps show a cyclist approaching the line while the light is red? Is that illegal? Is it breaking the law to approach the stop line while the light is red? Is teh cyclist in teh photo breaking the law? Whether they need to put one or both feet down is totally irrelevent and both your questions appear to be red herrings to divert attention away from the actual subject. The actual subject is does the photo show a cyclist who has broken the law. The actual answer is only if you think cyclists break the law by approaching a stop line while the light is red. It would be highly unlikely that a newspaper would print a picture that actually shows an identifiable rider making an illegal manouevre. The picture is probably not actually directly relevant to the written content, I am a little surprised that anyone would be so naive as to think it is. Rather like dismising the whole story for a spelling mistake. |
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On Monday, 22 July 2013 14:56:16 UTC+1, Mrcheerful wrote:
It would be highly unlikely that a newspaper would print a picture that actually shows an identifiable rider making an illegal manouevre. The picture is probably not actually directly relevant to the written content, I am a little surprised that anyone would be so naive as to think it is. Rather like dismising the whole story for a spelling mistake. So you agree with 36's comment of "what a load of bollox!" then. |
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On 22/07/2013 12:40, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:43:04 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 22/07/2013 10:36, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:54:58 +0100, Judith wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 08:27:55 +0100, Bertie Wooster wrote: snip Why would I be embarrassed by what happens in Ireland? "Lycra law-breakers" exist throughout the world? Are you proud of that then? Law-breakers exist throughout the world. I am proud that law-breaking is in steep decline in this country. Not, unfortunately, among cyclists. Have you the statistics to support that claim? Are there more, or fewer, cyclists than there used to be? That will give you your answer. |
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