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Drivers "scared" by so many cyclists on a Sunday
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"One Surrey resident referred to a rapid growth in cycling "overtaking" the roads on Sundays, with driving very difficult. He said some residents are too scared to drive on Sundays because the roads are so packed with people on bikes." http://road.cc/content/news/169205-n...a-wearers-dull |
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Drivers "scared" by so many cyclists on a Sunday
On 18/10/2015 22:26, Alycidon wrote:
QUOTE: "One Surrey resident referred to a rapid growth in cycling "overtaking" the roads on Sundays, with driving very difficult. He said some residents are too scared to drive on Sundays because the roads are so packed with people on bikes." http://road.cc/content/news/169205-n...a-wearers-dull Good job cycling has declined drastically since 1948. |
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Drivers "scared" by so many cyclists on a Sunday
On 18/10/2015 22:36, David Lang wrote:
On 18/10/2015 22:26, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "One Surrey resident referred to a rapid growth in cycling "overtaking" the roads on Sundays, with driving very difficult. He said some residents are too scared to drive on Sundays because the roads are so packed with people on bikes." http://road.cc/content/news/169205-n...a-wearers-dull Good job cycling has declined drastically since 1948. It's obvious to everyone except you, that in 1948 very few people could afford cars, the main mode of transport was either horses |
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Drivers "scared" by so many cyclists on a Sunday
On 19/10/2015 10:10, Bod wrote:
On 18/10/2015 22:36, David Lang wrote: On 18/10/2015 22:26, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "One Surrey resident referred to a rapid growth in cycling "overtaking" the roads on Sundays, with driving very difficult. He said some residents are too scared to drive on Sundays because the roads are so packed with people on bikes." http://road.cc/content/news/169205-n...a-wearers-dull Good job cycling has declined drastically since 1948. It's obvious to everyone except you, that in 1948 very few people could afford cars, the main mode of transport was either horses or bicycles for the common man. |
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Drivers "scared" by so many cyclists on a Sunday
On 18/10/2015 22:26, Alycidon wrote:
QUOTE: "One Surrey resident referred to a rapid growth in cycling "overtaking" the roads on Sundays, with driving very difficult. He said some residents are too scared to drive on Sundays because the roads are so packed with people on bikes." http://road.cc/content/news/169205-n...a-wearers-dull This "scared" business is a funny thing. I remember my niece at about 5 years old telling me she was scared of spiders. She was holding a spider by its leg at the time, whilst she pulled its other legs off, it struck me that the spider was probably a lot more "scared" of her. I think some people are unable to see things from the other person's perspective. |
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Drivers "scared" by so many cyclists on a Sunday
On 19/10/2015 10:26, Bod wrote:
On 19/10/2015 10:10, Bod wrote: On 18/10/2015 22:36, David Lang wrote: On 18/10/2015 22:26, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "One Surrey resident referred to a rapid growth in cycling "overtaking" the roads on Sundays, with driving very difficult. He said some residents are too scared to drive on Sundays because the roads are so packed with people on bikes." http://road.cc/content/news/169205-n...a-wearers-dull Good job cycling has declined drastically since 1948. It's obvious to everyone except you, that in 1948 very few people could afford cars, the main mode of transport was either horses or bicycles for the common man. So is today's general level of affluence higher or lower than it was in 1948? |
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Drivers "scared" by so many cyclists on a Sunday
On Monday, 19 October 2015 12:11:24 UTC+1, Nick wrote:
On 18/10/2015 22:26, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "One Surrey resident referred to a rapid growth in cycling "overtaking" the roads on Sundays, with driving very difficult. He said some residents are too scared to drive on Sundays because the roads are so packed with people on bikes." http://road.cc/content/news/169205-n...a-wearers-dull This "scared" business is a funny thing. I remember my niece at about 5 years old telling me she was scared of spiders. She was holding a spider by its leg at the time, whilst she pulled its other legs off, it struck me that the spider was probably a lot more "scared" of her. I think some people are unable to see things from the other person's perspective. Apparently, I have heard of some drivers being scared by hand gestures whilst being inside a 1.5 tonne tin box. Fear can come from many benign sources. |
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Drivers "scared" by so many cyclists on a Sunday
On 19/10/2015 13:15, JNugent wrote:
On 19/10/2015 10:26, Bod wrote: On 19/10/2015 10:10, Bod wrote: On 18/10/2015 22:36, David Lang wrote: On 18/10/2015 22:26, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "One Surrey resident referred to a rapid growth in cycling "overtaking" the roads on Sundays, with driving very difficult. He said some residents are too scared to drive on Sundays because the roads are so packed with people on bikes." http://road.cc/content/news/169205-n...a-wearers-dull Good job cycling has declined drastically since 1948. It's obvious to everyone except you, that in 1948 very few people could afford cars, the main mode of transport was either horses or bicycles for the common man. So is today's general level of affluence higher or lower than it was in 1948? Most definitely, especially as you consider that rationing was still being used for food etc. Very few could afford a TV, only the fairly well off could afford a car. A telephone was regarded as a luxury. I was born in 1948 and my parents couldn't afford a tv or a phone untill I was about 13 yrs old. A car was simply out of the question. I remember most other residents in our street being in a similar situation. |
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Drivers "scared" by so many cyclists on a Sunday
On 19/10/2015 13:29, Bod wrote:
On 19/10/2015 13:15, JNugent wrote: On 19/10/2015 10:26, Bod wrote: On 19/10/2015 10:10, Bod wrote: On 18/10/2015 22:36, David Lang wrote: On 18/10/2015 22:26, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "One Surrey resident referred to a rapid growth in cycling "overtaking" the roads on Sundays, with driving very difficult. He said some residents are too scared to drive on Sundays because the roads are so packed with people on bikes." http://road.cc/content/news/169205-n...a-wearers-dull Good job cycling has declined drastically since 1948. It's obvious to everyone except you, that in 1948 very few people could afford cars, the main mode of transport was either horses or bicycles for the common man. So is today's general level of affluence higher or lower than it was in 1948? Most definitely, especially as you consider that rationing was still being used for food etc. Very few could afford a TV, only the fairly well off could afford a car. A telephone was regarded as a luxury. I was born in 1948 and my parents couldn't afford a tv or a phone untill I was about 13 yrs old. A car was simply out of the question. I remember most other residents in our street being in a similar situation. Same here. Somewhere, I have a photograph of my first motor vehicle (when I was 19, I think). It's the only one in the terraced street (where today, I can't easily find a parking space when I visit). But given this increase in affluence, which is the more likely to continue to grow, cycling or driving? You have identified affluence as the counter-indicator for cycling. And as an aside, isn't this a side-issue where Surrey is concerned? After all, the "growth" in cycling there is not the result of an increase in cycling generally, but stems from a fad for cycling along the route of some fairly recent "sporting" occasion, irrespective of the disruption it causes to local residents. |
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Drivers "scared" by so many cyclists on a Sunday
On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 1:38:33 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 19/10/2015 13:29, Bod wrote: On 19/10/2015 13:15, JNugent wrote: On 19/10/2015 10:26, Bod wrote: On 19/10/2015 10:10, Bod wrote: On 18/10/2015 22:36, David Lang wrote: On 18/10/2015 22:26, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "One Surrey resident referred to a rapid growth in cycling "overtaking" the roads on Sundays, with driving very difficult. He said some residents are too scared to drive on Sundays because the roads are so packed with people on bikes." http://road.cc/content/news/169205-n...a-wearers-dull Good job cycling has declined drastically since 1948. It's obvious to everyone except you, that in 1948 very few people could afford cars, the main mode of transport was either horses or bicycles for the common man. So is today's general level of affluence higher or lower than it was in 1948? Most definitely, especially as you consider that rationing was still being used for food etc. Very few could afford a TV, only the fairly well off could afford a car. A telephone was regarded as a luxury. I was born in 1948 and my parents couldn't afford a tv or a phone untill I was about 13 yrs old. A car was simply out of the question. I remember most other residents in our street being in a similar situation. Same here. Somewhere, I have a photograph of my first motor vehicle (when I was 19, I think). It's the only one in the terraced street (where today, I can't easily find a parking space when I visit). But given this increase in affluence, which is the more likely to continue to grow, cycling or driving? You have identified affluence as the counter-indicator for cycling. And as an aside, isn't this a side-issue where Surrey is concerned? After all, the "growth" in cycling there is not the result of an increase in cycling generally, but stems from a fad for cycling along the route of some fairly recent "sporting" occasion, irrespective of the disruption it causes to local residents. The demographic-economic paradox In less wealthy regions of the world, the bicycle is the poor man's mode of transport: they cannot afford a motorised alternative. In the rich world, it is the wealthier who can afford to care about their health who cycle. |
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