Throwing down the gauntlet

On Dec 5, 7:25 pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
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On Dec 5, 5:55 pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:

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Hi All,

Next year is going to be my breakout year.

Here are my results from this year for events I care about:

Vestfold Rundt: 165km hilly with some flat in the middle in 4:42
(winners 4:10)
Baglerrunden: 62km hilly in 1:44 (winners 1:34)
Trondheim-Oslo: 540km in 18:40 (winners 14:??)
Melfar24: 592km in 24 hours on rolling hills (winner 720km)
local ITT: 10km on road bike in 14:56
local road races: I got dropped in all 5 or 6 I entered.

So I need some motivational numbers to strive for. I need some goals
and wagers from all you retards to set the bar, merciless crowd that
you are, I think this will help.

Joseph

Unless you are making money from racing or you are under 25 years of
age, you will find no worthwhile motivational speech from me to race
your bike. That's why top pros who retire don't compete in master's
categories.

I think they don't race because they are either burned out, or afraid
they'll get their asses kicked.

Racing for "fun" is stupid and not even a top pro could find the
incentive (or logical reason) to put in the necessary training and
travelling when the benefit is NOTHING.

So if you want to ride faster, the first thing you need to learn is you
cannot fabricate motivation when there really is none. Amateur racing
has NO MOTIVATIONAL INCENTIVE unless you're still young and have the
desire to do that sort of thing. It can be fun if you're in college or
travelling with some buddies. But once you get to a certain age, racing
is stupid, and a complete waste of time.

I have big fun at my events and on training rides with the guys (who
are all faster than me). That in itself is enough to keep doing it.
But it would be more fun to not get dropped...

Santana,

It sounds to me like you're not training correctly.

Most guys serious about racing hate their training partners and
teammates. One of the reasons I love riding with guys who race is to
hear them talk about how much they hate their current and old teammates
and how pathetic these arguments get about so-and-so "not leading me out
for the lap 15 prime like we planned in the team meeting." My favorite
arguments are the ones where the one guy accuses the "A-team leaders" on
the Saturday group ride of hammering when one of the slower riders on
the B-team stops to take a leak. Attacking people on group rides when
they flat or have to water the plants is probably one of the most
beautiful traditions that define the sport of amateur cycling.

If you ride with people who are friendly and courteous, then chances are
they're not Type A enough to be any good at racing and you should go
find yourself some real a-holes to teach you (95% of all bike races fit
this description) so you can learn how to act more like a real a-hole
bike racer.

Thanks,

Magilla

I think some of these guys are going to change their tune the day they
can't drop me up the local hills.

Joseph

On Dec 5, 11:55 am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
wrote:
Hi All,

Next year is going to be my breakout year.

Here are my results from this year for events I care about:

Vestfold Rundt: 165km hilly with some flat in the middle in 4:42
(winners 4:10)
Baglerrunden: 62km hilly in 1:44 (winners 1:34)
Trondheim-Oslo: 540km in 18:40 (winners 14:??)
Melfar24: 592km in 24 hours on rolling hills (winner 720km)
local ITT: 10km on road bike in 14:56
local road races: I got dropped in all 5 or 6 I entered.

So I need some motivational numbers to strive for. I need some goals
and wagers from all you retards to set the bar, merciless crowd that
you are, I think this will help.

Joseph

Unless you are making money from racing or you are under 25 years of
age, you will find no worthwhile motivational speech from me to race
your bike. That's why top pros who retire don't compete in master's
categories.

Racing for "fun" is stupid and not even a top pro could find the
incentive (or logical reason) to put in the necessary training and
travelling when the benefit is NOTHING.

So if you want to ride faster, the first thing you need to learn is you
cannot fabricate motivation when there really is none. Amateur racing
has NO MOTIVATIONAL INCENTIVE unless you're still young and have the
desire to do that sort of thing. It can be fun if you're in college or
travelling with some buddies. But once you get to a certain age, racing
is stupid, and a complete waste of time.

Once you lose incentive, don't bother trying to invent one because there
really never was a worthwhile one to begin with.

Of course, you can do what most people in here do: ride 100 miles/week
and spend $2,500 on a power meter and then drive 110 miles at 5 a.m. to
a parking lot crit to compete for $250. And in the process, you can
risk crashing and causing $1,250 in equipment damage and maybe another
$3,000 in hospital bills.

If you win a lot, you can go around and tell everyone you're the No. 2
ranked Cat 3 in your district and think that actually means something in
life.

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Get your mama to give you a hug, a smoochie and tell you're a good boy
no matter what anyone says.
Best,
Bill Black

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Racing for "fun" is stupid and not even a top pro could find the
incentive (or logical reason) to put in the necessary training and
travelling when the benefit is NOTHING.

billb wrote:
Get your mama to give you a hug, a smoochie and tell you're a good boy no
matter what anyone says.

His mama can't give him a smoochie because she's working
the harbour.

On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:42:12 -0500, MagillaGorilla
wrote:

williepoo wrote:

Train high and race even higher.This is something that Bob Roll has
discussed in depth.


Marijuana won't help your power, Boston George. Which is why I advise
aspiring racers to do as Juan Pablo Castro did (Cat II from NY), which
is to smuggle cocaine in your rectum and then try to board an
international flight, get caught, and then spend several years in the
bighouse.

I'm JT knows the details better than me.

I don't know details and am just glad he's out of prison and back.

On Dec 5, 10:55 am, MagillaGorilla wrote:

Unless you are making money from racing or you are under 25 years of
age, you will find no worthwhile motivational speech from me to race
your bike. That's why top pros who retire don't compete in master's
categories.

Racing for "fun" is stupid and not even a top pro could find the
incentive (or logical reason) to put in the necessary training and
travelling when the benefit is NOTHING.

So if you want to ride faster, the first thing you need to learn is you
cannot fabricate motivation when there really is none. Amateur racing
has NO MOTIVATIONAL INCENTIVE unless you're still young and have the
desire to do that sort of thing. It can be fun if you're in college or
travelling with some buddies. But once you get to a certain age, racing
is stupid, and a complete waste of time.

Once you lose incentive, don't bother trying to invent one because there
really never was a worthwhile one to begin with.

If you win a lot, you can go around and tell everyone you're the No. 2
ranked Cat 3 in your district and think that actually means something in
life.

What did you not put into, and/or take away from, bicycle racing that
has left you so... bitter?

Not that I couldn't agree with you here and there.

--D-cat-III-since-1982-y

PS Should I downgrade? What do you think?

On Dec 5, 9:26 am, "Mark Fennell" wrote:
Unfortunately, I've failed to take his advice above in almost every respect,
so now I'm out the door for a good 3-hour ride... (btw, thanks Greg...
you're supporting me too)

That's my call to talk to flowers....

Only 3 hours? I encourage all my pet primates to ride during all
their "work" hours. That way you have less time to destroy
civilization. A public servant that wanted to annoy me would work
very hard and diligently.

Making small conversation, I have it on good information that my
astronomer pet isn't just trying to destroy the earth via global
warming (by the guvmint overbuilding roads and incentivizing coal-
fired plants), but he is actually a Sith Lord trying to destroy all
that is good and light in the universe:

"A universe with a truncated lifespan may come hand in hand with the
ability of astronomers to make cosmological measurements, according to
two American scientists who have studied the strange, subtle and
cosmic implications of quantum mechanics, the most successful theory
we have."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...icosmos121.xml

It is high time for a Save-the-Universe tax! Think of it sort of like
social security: insurance but yet not really.

On the upside, his attempts at building a better y = mx + b appear
harmless so far(http://mingus.as.arizona.edu/~bjw/tkrs_kinematics/
fitprogs.html). We'll see!!!

As a feeling and generous person, I don't want you to get hurt. You
pets stay away from real competition and stick to the ersatz
competition we call bike racing.

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
On the upside, his attempts at building a better y = mx + b appear
harmless so far(http://mingus.as.arizona.edu/~bjw/tkrs_kinematics/
fitprogs.html). We'll see!!!

Its really a plot to allow the guvmint to use a higher m and
b when calculating your tax increase.

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
On the upside, his attempts at building a better y = mx + b appear
harmless so far(http://mingus.as.arizona.edu/~bjw/tk...fitprogs.html).

Weiner uses GOTO.
http://simplythebest.net/sounds/WAV/...files/haha.wav

On Dec 5, 8:55 am, MagillaGorilla wrote:

If you win a lot, you can go around and tell everyone you're the No. 2
ranked Cat 3 in your district and think that actually means something in
life.

Joe - this is what happens to people who can't find motivation to have
fun doing what they love to do. Remember this every time your kids
wakes you up in the middle of the night, every time you're thinking
twice about that last hill sprint and when your wife wants you to miss
your race so that you can attend a PTA function with her.

On Dec 5, 9:20 am, "
wrote:

I have big fun at my events and on training rides with the guys (who
are all faster than me). That in itself is enough to keep doing it.
But it would be more fun to not get dropped...

If you ride road races you'll simply get dropped and never improve
significantly. If you race crits you can see the pack the whole time
and you burn yourself out trying to keep up. Eventually that
motivation keeps you in for the whole race, then you find yourself
riding in the pack and eventually you discover that much to your
surprise you can ride on the front with the big dogs.

Live while you can. When you stop racing the fitness feels like it
will last the rest of your life but it only lasts until next spring.