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Ken Kifer's Murderer Still Behind Bars
The murderer of Ken Kifer, Jimmy Don Rodgers, is still behind bars.
Thank goodness Jimmy Don decided to screw up his chances for Parole. His release date is now 2023. Rob Date: Sun, Sep 4 2005 11:03 pm Email: Rob Perkins Groups: rec.bicycles.misc I was stunned to visit Ken Kifer's pages after a long time and find out that he had been murdered by a serial drunk driver & drug abuser in Sep 2003. See http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/index.htm |
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Ken Kifer's Murderer Still Behind Bars
RobertPerkins wrote:
The murderer of Ken Kifer, Jimmy Don Rodgers, is still behind bars. Thank goodness Jimmy Don decided to screw up his chances for Parole. His release date is now 2023. I agree with the "thank goodness" part. Not necessarily for vengeance, and not for justice (since I don't think justice was served with his lenient sentence), but for public safety. My safety. Riding my bike one county away, and regularly driving through Jackson County, I don't want to have any more drunk drivers, out on bail for drunk driving, on the road than absolutely necessary. But the 2023 date is too good to be true. Are you sure he won't come up for parole in another 3-4 years? Pat Date: Sun, Sep 4 2005 11:03 pm Email: Rob Perkins Groups: rec.bicycles.misc I was stunned to visit Ken Kifer's pages after a long time and find out that he had been murdered by a serial drunk driver & drug abuser in Sep 2003. See http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/index.htm |
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Ken Kifer's Murderer Still Behind Bars
Pat Lamb writes:
RobertPerkins wrote: The murderer of Ken Kifer, Jimmy Don Rodgers, is still behind bars. Thank goodness Jimmy Don decided to screw up his chances for Parole. His release date is now 2023. I agree with the "thank goodness" part. Not necessarily for vengeance, and not for justice (since I don't think justice was served with his lenient sentence), but for public safety. With that attitude noone would ever be released. The asshole who hit Ken got 20 years : this is not a lenient sentence. In fact you could say it was far too long for what could be described as "an alcohol induced accident". If he can succeed in rehab then maybe, just maybe this young man can serve a useful role in society once again. |
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Ken Kifer's Murderer Still Behind Bars
Successful rehab? I don't know about that. According to Ken's website:
"Rodgers had been released from jail just four hours before hitting Ken. He had been held for 12 hours on charges of DUI (Driving Under the Influence) and a violation of the open container law. He has been charged with murder." The guy had only been release FOUR hours before he killed Ken after sitting in jail for a DUI violation! How did Jimmy Don "screw up" his chances for early parole? |
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Ken Kifer's Murderer Still Behind Bars
Hadron Quark wrote:
With that attitude noone would ever be released. The asshole who hit Ken got 20 years : this is not a lenient sentence. In fact you could say it was far too long for what could be described as "an alcohol induced accident". If he can succeed in rehab then maybe, just maybe this young man can serve a useful role in society once again. Really? That he had posted bail on a previous DUI just hours before driving drunk again and then after going to prison decided to risk literally years of his life so he could get high doesn't bode well for his successful rehabilitation. BTW, the "young man" in question is 31 years old. At what age do we stop excusing intentional criminal acts as "errors of youth"? Regards, Bob Hunt |
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Ken Kifer's Murderer Still Behind Bars
"Bob" writes:
Hadron Quark wrote: With that attitude noone would ever be released. The asshole who hit Ken got 20 years : this is not a lenient sentence. In fact you could say it was far too long for what could be described as "an alcohol induced accident". If he can succeed in rehab then maybe, just maybe this young man can serve a useful role in society once again. Really? That he had posted bail on a previous DUI just hours before driving drunk again and then after going to prison decided to risk literally years of his life so he could get high doesn't bode well for his successful rehabilitation. Agreed : but if he does/can then all the better. BTW, the "young man" in question is 31 years old. At what age do we stop excusing intentional criminal acts as "errors of youth"? Who said it was an error of youth? He certainly deserves punishment : but to lock away the key is extreme and certainly not how any developed society or legal system should handle it. Regards, Bob Hunt -- |
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Ken Kifer's Murderer Still Behind Bars
Hadron Quark wrote: He certainly deserves punishment : but to lock away the key is extreme and certainly not how any developed society or legal system should handle it. I'm a bit curious about how other developed societies and legal systems handle such a thing. To review: IIRC, he was a person with a long history of putting innocent people's lives at risk, over and over. He was jailed for this - itself unusual, indicating a serious problem. Within hours after release, he repeated the same offense, this time killing an innocent person. And, apparently, he behaves badly enough in prison that the legal system decide he can't be rehabilitated. Do other societies say "Oh well" and turn him loose on their citizens? - Frank Krygowski |
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Hadron Quark wrote:
"Bob" writes: Hadron Quark wrote: With that attitude noone would ever be released. The asshole who hit Ken got 20 years : this is not a lenient sentence. In fact you could say it was far too long for what could be described as "an alcohol induced accident". If he can succeed in rehab then maybe, just maybe this young man can serve a useful role in society once again. Really? That he had posted bail on a previous DUI just hours before driving drunk again and then after going to prison decided to risk literally years of his life so he could get high doesn't bode well for his successful rehabilitation. Agreed : but if he does/can then all the better. It's easy enough to say, "if he can succeed in rehab then maybe, just maybe...", but all indications are that he won't succeed. Punishment for the damage he's already done aside, it's an issue of probability versus possibilty. The probability he would repeat his past behavior outweighs the apparently remote possibility that he can be rehabilitated. BTW, the "young man" in question is 31 years old. At what age do we stop excusing intentional criminal acts as "errors of youth"? Who said it was an error of youth? You seemed to be implying just that when you described a 31 year old habitual drunk driver and drug user as a, "... young man (that) can serve a useful role in society...". He certainly deserves punishment : but to lock away the key is extreme and certainly not how any developed society or legal system should handle it. It's not backward for a society to say in effect, "Enough is enough. You knew the rules and the penalties for breaking them. You broke those rules and we gave you a second chance. You apparently still haven't learned to live by the rules so we're going to banish you from our society until you do learn". It's also not a sign of sophistication for a society to say, "Here are the rules and the penalties for breaking them but if you break them, don't worry. We'll give you second, third, and fourth chances if necessary. We won't ever actually impose the penalties prescribed because that wouldn't be the mark of a developed society." Regards, Bob Hunt |
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Ken Kifer's Murderer Still Behind Bars
Ken inspired me to get into bicycle touring, and corresponded with me from
time to time. I sure miss his posts. "RobertPerkins" wrote in message ups.com... The murderer of Ken Kifer, Jimmy Don Rodgers, is still behind bars. Thank goodness Jimmy Don decided to screw up his chances for Parole. His release date is now 2023. Rob Date: Sun, Sep 4 2005 11:03 pm Email: Rob Perkins Groups: rec.bicycles.misc I was stunned to visit Ken Kifer's pages after a long time and find out that he had been murdered by a serial drunk driver & drug abuser in Sep 2003. See http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/index.htm |
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