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Helmet Nazis at It Again!
A news item the last two days has been how the City is planning another 200 miles of bike lanes. For some reason, the liberals can't resist throwing in the tidbit about some study finding that ~97% of bike fatalities in the City involve riders not wearing a helmet. WTF??? Anyway, there's a spokesman from the Rebel Alliance on a segment of Brian Lehrer's show "On the Line." It should be podcasted by tomorrow if you miss it today. http://www.wnyc.org/ |
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Helmet Nazis at It Again!
NYC XYZ wrote:
A news item the last two days has been how the City is planning another 200 miles of bike lanes. For some reason, the liberals can't resist throwing in the tidbit about some study finding that ~97% of bike fatalities in the City involve riders not wearing a helmet. WTF??? Anyway, there's a spokesman from the Rebel Alliance on a segment of Brian Lehrer's show "On the Line." It should be podcasted by tomorrow if you miss it today. http://www.wnyc.org/ Wow, Godwin's Law in the very first post of a thread. |
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Helmet Nazis at It Again!
SMS wrote:
NYC XYZ wrote: A news item the last two days has been how the City is planning another 200 miles of bike lanes. For some reason, the liberals can't resist throwing in the tidbit about some study finding that ~97% of bike fatalities in the City involve riders not wearing a helmet. WTF??? Anyway, there's a spokesman from the Rebel Alliance on a segment of Brian Lehrer's show "On the Line." It should be podcasted by tomorrow if you miss it today. http://www.wnyc.org/ Wow, Godwin's Law in the very first post of a thread. It doesn't matter **** when you get run over by a semi or train. My grand daughter saw one of her friends run over and chopped into pieces by a semi with a hand, and only a hand, coming to rest near her foot. The multi section dead girl did not have a scratch on her helmet, as if it would have prevented an 80,000 pound vehicle from sectioning her body in parts, obviously a bit more fatal than a bump on the head. If she hadn't had a helmet, that statistic would have made it into the paper, but I think the helmet impaired her hearing. For all the idiot helmet fanatics. Bill Baka |
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Helmet Nazis at It Again!
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:09:49 GMT, Bill Baka wrote:
My grand daughter saw one of her friends run over and chopped into pieces by a semi with a hand, and only a hand, coming to rest near her foot. Bill Baka The "amazing life experiences" syndrome runs in the family, apparently. |
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Helmet Nazis at It Again!
Jesus -- glad I used my spell-checker!
Are you Jewish or German? LOL SMS wrote: Wow, Godwin's Law in the very first post of a thread. |
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Helmet Nazis at It Again!
In rec.bicycles.misc NYC XYZ wrote:
Jesus -- glad I used my spell-checker! Are you Jewish or German? LOL God you really are a top-posting clueless asshat aren't you? I hadn't bothered to killfile you previously since my arbr filter took care of most of your drivel. Do you have any valid reason to continue exchanging oxygen? *PLONK* -- Dane Buson - What upsets me is not that you lied to me, but that from now on I can no longer believe you. -- Nietzsche |
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Helmet Nazis at It Again!
"NYC XYZ" writes:
A news item the last two days has been how the City is planning another 200 miles of bike lanes. For some reason, the liberals can't resist throwing in the tidbit about some study finding that ~97% of bike fatalities in the City involve riders not wearing a helmet. WTF??? First, it is not "liberals" per se---politicians and city staff in general like to throw out statistics, whether valid or not, that help make a project they are pushing sound like it is necessary. Second, why would a 97% figure sound surpising? Around where I live, helmet use is far higher in the more wealthy communities compared to the poorer ones, but the the wealthy communities also have the resources for bike education programs in public schools that attempt to teach children to obey traffic laws. The kids still run stop signs, but at least they are more likely to be on the right side of the road. If something similar is true in NYC, the 97% figure is quite plausible. It simply means that the safest cyclists also tend to use helmets (and probably lights at night as well). In addition (around here) unlicensed drivers are more prevalent in the poorer areas. That also may be true in NYC as well. If you couple some extra protection from a helmet with using lights at night, more or less obeying traffic laws, and riding where there are fewer unlicensed drivers, then a huge fatality rate reduction (and substantial accident rate reduction) is quite plausible. -- My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB |
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Helmet Nazis at It Again!
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:50:24 GMT, (Bill Z.)
wrote: writes: On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:57:57 GMT, (Bill Z.) wrote: If you couple some extra protection from a helmet with using lights at night, more or less obeying traffic laws, and riding where there are fewer unlicensed drivers, then a huge fatality rate reduction (and substantial accident rate reduction) is quite plausible. No need to couple the helmet at all - population studies show that they have no positive effect. We went over this crap for years, and the "helmets don't work" claim has been completely discredited. Nobody is claiming that helmets are a panacea, but they are useful. Useful for scratches and scrapes perhaps. But preventing serious injuries - zero (or negative) effect. A net health cost. |
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